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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #180 on: August 29, 2008, 07:07:50 PM »
http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp

Coptic chant in English sung by the monks of St. Anthony's Monastery in California.

Actually, while this was guided by the Monastery, most of the voices were normal lower ranking deacons (like singers and readers), many of them I know and met.

The one who said "Amen! Alleluia! Kyrie Eleison!" before the Hooses would be the late HG Bishop Karas, the previous Abbott of the monastery, a very holy man I and many others have loved personally, truly a saint.

It is a blessing to hear his recorded voice in the Psalmody.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #181 on: September 11, 2008, 03:01:23 PM »
http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp

Coptic chant in English sung by the monks of St. Anthony's Monastery in California.


Awesome!  Thanks for sharing.  So wonderful to have both discs available for free download!
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #182 on: September 17, 2008, 09:29:36 PM »
Here is Only Begotten Son and the Immortal Word of God (O Monogenes) in Malayalam:

http://www.imeem.com/people/CnAF6pb/music/uo64Piuh/038ninmaathavump3/

I got this link from our poster dhinuus in this thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,17446.msg254056.html#new

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #183 on: September 20, 2008, 03:58:43 PM »
Ethiopian New Year spirtiual song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aL9l8a--o
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #184 on: September 22, 2008, 10:40:30 PM »
About 40 seconds into this video you can hear the vesting hymn that is sung at the beginning of the liturgy when the priest enters the church.  This is the same hymn that was sung in the link posted in reply #159 of this thread.  However, this one is sung by a choir and its melody is the melody which you typically would hear in an Armenian parish church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxUPoHHum6w

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #185 on: September 26, 2008, 01:28:33 AM »
Some beautiful chanting and hymns from the end of an Indian Orthodox liturgy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0XuR3udUXc&NR=1

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #186 on: October 05, 2008, 12:02:04 AM »

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #187 on: October 06, 2008, 12:09:52 AM »
This is a recording of the hymn sung during the Kiss of Peace in the Armenian Church.  The hymn is ancient, but the music in this recording was written by Gomidas Vartabed, about one hundred years ago.  The recording starts with the deacon calling for the Kiss of Peace, and advising those who are outside the doors and can't partake to pray.  This, of course, goes back to the days when those doing penance were not allowed in the nave during the Eucharistic part of the liturgy.

If you click onto "more info," you get the translation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjbTAA9XteI

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #188 on: October 07, 2008, 12:20:42 AM »
Syriac hymn, Haw Nurone, sung by deacons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKcPXrJaiW0&feature=related

The words to the prayer can be seen by clicking on "more info."

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #189 on: October 07, 2008, 04:41:24 PM »
The Syriac Hymn: "O Habibi" usually sung on Good Friday......I fondly remember singing this church in Malayalam in the Mar Thomite Church....the words that such that will surely bring tears...I believe the same is sung in Arabic and is sung in the Eastern Catholic church as well.......

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aIEHPM2mw


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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #190 on: October 09, 2008, 10:21:26 AM »
I don't know if anyone has posted this already, but it's the "Ave Maria" in Syriac..."Shlomo Lech Mariam"

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FHID7QAY0E

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #191 on: October 10, 2008, 01:13:10 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6yguKvKCO4

Above is a Syriac prayer, Ebke, Ebke, sung by a monk of St. Ephraim Monastery in Syria.  The translation is included under "more info."



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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #192 on: October 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM »
The Syriac Hymn: "O Habibi" usually sung on Good Friday......I fondly remember singing this church in Malayalam in the Mar Thomite Church....the words that such that will surely bring tears...I believe the same is sung in Arabic and is sung in the Eastern Catholic church as well.......

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aIEHPM2mw



Lord have mercy. That is so beautiful.

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #193 on: October 13, 2008, 12:05:49 AM »
I think this guy is trying to do something artsy with the traditional hymns of the Armenian Church.  I'm not sure how I feel about it.  It is interesting, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEZyHIhe_9E

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #194 on: October 15, 2008, 12:19:33 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa3Ev9fcAps

Above is some beautiful and joyful singing at a Coptic mission in Zambia.

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #195 on: October 17, 2008, 12:09:46 AM »
Prayers for mercy by an Armenian choir in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeoYVrFk1Vo

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #196 on: October 19, 2008, 12:05:36 PM »
A very moving prayer by Coptic monks from a monastery in California.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRFM1n6sI6Q

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #197 on: October 22, 2008, 12:08:01 AM »
I think this is a Syriac hymn attributed to St. Ephrem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeqURwDo3K0

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #199 on: October 23, 2008, 10:30:25 AM »
I am positive that this has been pasted here already. But I need to post it again....this is incredibly moving....

The Armenian Hymn "Der Voghormya" ("Lord Have Mercy")


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CxIqYGHztU


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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #200 on: October 29, 2008, 12:09:48 AM »
Syriac Orthodox hymn, To Ba-Shlom Ru 'Yo Shariro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTWCE5PI_Ow
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #201 on: November 11, 2008, 09:06:01 PM »
This hymn is sung in the Armenian Church after Communion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTEQpxgnRZs

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #202 on: November 14, 2008, 11:52:08 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B8rnuP-VKA&feature=related

An Armenian hymn sung at the tomb of St. Gregorios in India, during the recent visit of His Holiness Karekin II.

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #203 on: November 15, 2008, 02:17:36 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B8rnuP-VKA&feature=related

An Armenian hymn sung at the tomb of St. Gregorios in India, during the recent visit of His Holiness Karekin II.

Out of curiosity, the tomb of St. Gregorios is under the protection of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, not the Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church?
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #204 on: November 15, 2008, 02:29:21 AM »
I have no idea. 

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #205 on: November 15, 2008, 02:50:57 AM »
So I guess that the Armenians have no problems with using accompanying instruments along with their chanting?

I really have no idea how much of an issue this is in different churches, it just seems unusual to me based of my limited Orthodox experiences.

Can you direct me to any CDs available with Armenian Chant that don't have any accompanying instruments?

Thanks!

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #206 on: November 15, 2008, 03:18:44 AM »

Can you direct me to any CDs available with Armenian Chant that don't have any accompanying instruments?


I think using the organ started during the 1920's.

Arevagal in Geghard is one of my favorite CD's of chant with no accompanying instruments.  Below are a few places that sell it:

http://www.abrilbooks.com/music/5261.html

http://www.armenianprelacy.org/bookstore/religious.htm   (third down on the right)

http://www.narek.com/store/product.php?productid=18671&cat=260&bestseller

The last link will let you listen to samples.  I think the very last track has a light organ playing with the singing, but the voices of the children who sing it are so angelic, you don't notice.   :)  The rest of the hymns I think are sung by seminarians.  Track nine is the Trisagion.  The twelveth track, for which the CD is named, has the hymns of the Prime Service.  I love those hymns.  They were written by St. Nerses the Gracefilled.  "Arevakal" means "coming of the sun."  "Arev" is sun, "kal" is coming.

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #207 on: November 15, 2008, 03:33:58 AM »
One of the sites describes that the songs were originally used as worship of the sun and were adapted for Christian "Son" worship.  Do you know anything about this?

By the way, thank you for sharing, I will most definitely buy this.

What do you think of this album:

http://www.liturgica.com/cart/musicInfo.jsp?catNo=AK015

Is it also worth buying?

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #208 on: November 15, 2008, 04:01:53 AM »
I really don't feel like trudging through the entire thread looking for this or that, so I'll count on some of you.

I really liked Salpy's recommendation for an Armenian Chant CD.  So can anyone recommend some good Coptic, Ethiopian, Syriac, et cetera CDs?  Again, I really hate organs, so anything that is pure chant is appreciated!  Of course I do not mind certain accompanying instruments that are a part of the liturgical tradition (i.e. drums for the Ethiopians or cymbals for the Copts).

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« Reply #209 on: November 15, 2008, 04:25:19 AM »
I haven't listened to the CD you linked to, so I can't tell you what it's like.

With regard to the Arevakal service, I don't know for sure about the accuracy of the information.  The Narek site that makes that statement is not really a religious site, so who knows who wrote it.  

There is some truth to the statement that the Armenians before Christianity worshiped fire and, I think, even the sun.  I seem to recall being told that in preChristian times, villages would have a person whose job it was to call for the sun right before sunrise.  I seem to recall seeing it in an Armenian movie once, but it was many years ago and I can't recall what the movie was.  

It could be that some of this carried over into Christianity.  It would make some sense, since images of light are often used to describe Christ.  ("I am the Light of the world.")  St. Nerses definitely used images of light and the rising sun in the Prime prayers.  You see this in the English translation of some of those prayers, which I copied in the OO Prayer thread, reply #2:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,13200.msg183101.html#msg183101

I have a story about the Prime prayers.  I love them so much, that I memorized some of them a long time ago in the original Classical Armenian.  About 14 or 15 years ago, there was a strong earthquake that struck in the early hours of the morning.  If I recall correctly, it was 6.9, or thereabouts.  Anyway, my mom was trapped in her bedroom, and it was pretty awful getting her out.  She was alright, but the house was an absolute mess and trying to clean up and evaluate the damage was pretty hard with just flashlights and camping lanterns.  (When you live in Southern California, you always have some of those in the house.  This wasn't our first big earthquake.)  The electricity of course was out, and right after a quake, you can't be sure for a while if you can use the gas or even if the water is OK.  Then, of course, there were lots of pretty strong aftershocks, which came quickly and often.

Anyway, back to the prayers.  It seemed like it was taking forever for the sun to rise, and I was feeling a bit desperate for better light than I could get with something that was battery operated.  I went out onto the back porch to get some air, and while I was out there, I just started whispering some of the Prime prayers.  Of course, that didn't hurry the sunrise or anything.   :)  But it did help me feel God's presence at a time when I needed it.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #210 on: November 15, 2008, 03:56:20 PM »
I really don't feel like trudging through the entire thread looking for this or that, so I'll count on some of you.

I really liked Salpy's recommendation for an Armenian Chant CD.  So can anyone recommend some good Coptic, Ethiopian, Syriac, et cetera CDs?  Again, I really hate organs, so anything that is pure chant is appreciated!  Of course I do not mind certain accompanying instruments that are a part of the liturgical tradition (i.e. drums for the Ethiopians or cymbals for the Copts).

You may want to check out the CD mentioned and linked to at the bottom of page four of this thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,9840.msg249970.html#msg249970

It's chant by the monks of St. Antony Monastery, in California:

http://www.stantonymonastery.org/psalmody.asp
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #212 on: November 16, 2008, 02:56:00 PM »
Here is a very beautiful mezmur; one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frgScZfz8ZE

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #213 on: November 18, 2008, 03:18:45 AM »
Some chanting and hymns at a Christmas service in a Syriac Orthodox Church in Aleppo:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FKzbyDo6PQ

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #214 on: November 22, 2008, 02:57:27 AM »
Two hymns ("sharagan") of the Armenian Church:

The first is the Trisagion.  The second one is sung before the Great Entrance.

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« Reply #215 on: November 22, 2008, 05:31:58 PM »
My goodness, but I must have been tired when I made the above post.  I forgot to paste the link!

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LyK0LAj61c

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« Reply #216 on: November 24, 2008, 02:22:20 AM »
Another Armenian hymn.  I'm not familiar with it, but it seems like a special feast day hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxmVhJMqR6E&feature=channel

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« Reply #217 on: December 03, 2008, 02:12:06 AM »
Syriac Orthodox Christmas prayers sung in Aramaic, in Jerusalem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA354kM3fXA

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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #218 on: December 11, 2008, 01:06:17 AM »
Seminarians singing an Armenian hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my6DmORFiA0

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« Reply #219 on: December 11, 2008, 08:51:16 AM »
I really don't feel like trudging through the entire thread looking for this or that, so I'll count on some of you.

I really liked Salpy's recommendation for an Armenian Chant CD.  So can anyone recommend some good Coptic, Ethiopian, Syriac, et cetera CDs?  Again, I really hate organs, so anything that is pure chant is appreciated!  Of course I do not mind certain accompanying instruments that are a part of the liturgical tradition (i.e. drums for the Ethiopians or cymbals for the Copts).

UNESCO did one on Syriac Chant, but I think it is out of print (or whatever word used when they don't make a CD anymore).
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« Reply #220 on: December 11, 2008, 08:52:22 AM »
I haven't listened to the CD you linked to, so I can't tell you what it's like.

With regard to the Arevakal service, I don't know for sure about the accuracy of the information.  The Narek site that makes that statement is not really a religious site, so who knows who wrote it.  

There is some truth to the statement that the Armenians before Christianity worshiped fire and, I think, even the sun.  I seem to recall being told that in preChristian times, villages would have a person whose job it was to call for the sun right before sunrise.  I seem to recall seeing it in an Armenian movie once, but it was many years ago and I can't recall what the movie was.  

It could be that some of this carried over into Christianity.  It would make some sense, since images of light are often used to describe Christ.  ("I am the Light of the world.")  St. Nerses definitely used images of light and the rising sun in the Prime prayers.  You see this in the English translation of some of those prayers, which I copied in the OO Prayer thread, reply #2:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,13200.msg183101.html#msg183101

I have a story about the Prime prayers.  I love them so much, that I memorized some of them a long time ago in the original Classical Armenian.  About 14 or 15 years ago, there was a strong earthquake that struck in the early hours of the morning.  If I recall correctly, it was 6.9, or thereabouts.  Anyway, my mom was trapped in her bedroom, and it was pretty awful getting her out.  She was alright, but the house was an absolute mess and trying to clean up and evaluate the damage was pretty hard with just flashlights and camping lanterns.  (When you live in Southern California, you always have some of those in the house.  This wasn't our first big earthquake.)  The electricity of course was out, and right after a quake, you can't be sure for a while if you can use the gas or even if the water is OK.  Then, of course, there were lots of pretty strong aftershocks, which came quickly and often.

Anyway, back to the prayers.  It seemed like it was taking forever for the sun to rise, and I was feeling a bit desperate for better light than I could get with something that was battery operated.  I went out onto the back porch to get some air, and while I was out there, I just started whispering some of the Prime prayers.  Of course, that didn't hurry the sunrise or anything.   :)  But it did help me feel God's presence at a time when I needed it.

Thanks for the testimonial.  Lovely how when trained in prayer, it just comes.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #221 on: December 21, 2008, 10:37:01 PM »

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« Reply #222 on: January 02, 2009, 02:46:29 AM »
I recently recorded a friend of mine chant the Coptic Nativity hymns E-Parthenos and Pijinmisi in English. The file is available for download on my website: click here.
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #223 on: January 02, 2009, 03:00:49 AM »
I recently recorded a friend of mine chant the Coptic Nativity hymns E-Parthenos and Pijinmisi in English. The file is available for download on my website: click here.
I am unable to right click to download the files :(
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Re: Oriental Orthodox Music
« Reply #224 on: January 02, 2009, 09:38:04 AM »
Yeah sorry about that. A friend of mine handles the technical side of things; not sure why right click doesn't work. Nevertheless, a pop-up dialogue giving you the option to save the file to a particular location should open upon clicking the link.
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