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Offline JonathanSantiago

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I'm conflicted
« on: Yesterday at 03:57:07 PM »
I was accepted as a catechumen in a  local orthodox parish. I don't have a problem with the Orthodox Church doctrine. I agree with the Orthodox Church doctrine but I quit going to church about a month ago because fasting  for so many days is very harsh too me. I'm not used to fasting.  I quit going to church because I don't want to be a hypocrite breaking the  fast . I don't have a problem with Wednesday's and Friday fast. But the fasting in Lent for so many days is too harsh to me . So I quit. I miss going to church . A great community is there. :( I'm really sad.
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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 04:05:39 PM »
Well, that is something you should have communicated with your priest.

It's like going to a trainer.  You want to be healthy.  So you went on an exercise regimen that is frankly too strenuous.  So rather than going back to your trainer to tell him how hard it was for you, you completely skipped out on going to the gym.

It's never too late to go back to Church and see your priest, and he can work with you by reducing the fasting strain in a way you can handle it.
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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 04:12:35 PM »
Did you take blessing/permission from your priest to fast  ? Without such permission it could be harmful to do things on your own head...

Also i remember a girl who had difficulties or some problems with lent so my priest gave her a lighter program, with fish and milk and only for two weeks.

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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:16:50 PM »
Did you take blessing/permission from your priest to fast  ? Without such permission it could be harmful to do things on your own head...
Didn't realize Lent was a blessing/permission thing.

Re: the OP — Go back to church. Even if you don't fast, go to church. Even if you don't pray at home, go to church. Even if you have doubts, go to church. Even if you sin in the parking lot, go to church.

Not going to church for any of those reasons is like refusing to go to the hospital because you know you're sick.
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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 04:22:43 PM »
Did you take blessing/permission from your priest to fast  ? Without such permission it could be harmful to do things on your own head...
Didn't realize Lent was a blessing/permission thing.

For catechumens, it probably is, or at least should be. Let's face it, it's pretty hardcore even for cradles, let alone for rank newbies.
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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 04:46:02 PM »

As a catechumen I do not believe you are required to fast as strictly as the rest of us. 

...and if we, who are cradle Orthodox, do not fast....it is not the end of the world.  It is a recommendation...and it is encouraged, as we reap so many benefits from it...however, it is not a requirement to our salvation.

You should go to church, especially during Great Lent...regardless if you are fasting, or not. 

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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 05:06:36 PM »
"Wherefore, enter you all into the joy of your Lord; and receive your reward, both the first, and likewise the second. You rich and poor together, hold high festival. You sober and you heedless, honor the day. Rejoice today, both you who have fasted and you who have disregarded the fast. The table is full-laden; feast ye all sumptuously. The calf is fatted; let no one go hungry away."


This is the Paschal Sermon of St. John Chrysostom.


If he was aware that there are those who did not fast, and they are still told to celebrate the Resurrection.....
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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 05:09:53 PM »
Amen!  I so want to incorporate that homily into our liturgy.
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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 06:16:57 PM »
Amen!  I so want to incorporate that homily into our liturgy.
It is a pretty neat way of expressing the Paschal welcome.
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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 08:19:26 PM »
It's hard for my current circumstances to fast also, but prayer is more important than fasting.
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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 10:39:14 PM »
I think most would say to start slowly with fasting.  Just like athletics one must proceed slowly to get used to the discipline.

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Re: I'm conflicted
« Reply #11 on: Today at 10:57:50 AM »

As a catechumen I do not believe you are required to fast as strictly as the rest of us. 
Required?

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