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« on: August 08, 2006, 09:30:39 AM »

This may or may not be in the right place, but I thought I would contain myself to the "Convert Issues" forum until I am more familiar with both the forum and Orthodoxy.

In researching old threads here I found a couple threads about choosing a Saint's name for Chrismation ... It seems that one traditionally chooses the name of the saint commemorated on or near the date of one's birth.  So to that end I went to the GOA's website and looked at their calendar.  On May 23 (within 2 days of my birthday) is "Mary the Myrrhbearer".  I was wondering if this saint is the same as Mary Magdalene?

Some sites I visit seem to indicate that they are the same.  Others seem to indicate that they are not.

It would be interesting if they are the same.  When I was received into the RCC I chose as my patron saint St. Mary Magdalene.  It would be funny (in a providential sense) if I chose as my patron saint upon joining the RCC the female saint who is commemorated closest to my birthday.

Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on my confusion.
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2006, 10:42:34 AM »

Carole, 
One of my daughters birthday is May 23rd and her name saint is Mary the Myrrhbearer and wife of Cleopas.

Mary the wife of Cleopas is mentioned (John 19:25) as standing at the cross in company with Mary of Magdala and Mary the mother of Jesus. By comparing Matt. 27:56 and Mark 15:40, we find that this Mary and "Mary the mother of James the little" are one and the same person, and that she was the sister of our Lord's mother. She was that "other Mary" who was present with Mary of Magdala at the burial of our Lord (Matt. 27:61; Mark 15:47); and she was one of those who went early in the morning of the first day of the week to anoint the body, and thus became one of the first witnesses of the resurrection (Matt. 28:1; Mark 16:1; Luke 24:1). See: Joses, Joseph, and James (the less).

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2006, 10:45:25 AM »

Thank you so much.  I was getting a bit confused (not an unusual state for me).
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2006, 11:07:53 AM »

It certainly is confusing.  Don't know why there are so many Marys.  I guess as far as God is concerned, the more, the Mary-er.  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 01:22:59 PM »

Ouch, bad pun, but funny!

Anyways, I have two icons referring to the Myrrhbearers and both of them contain a different number of women. A Slavonic icon contains six women and the Greek one contains only three. When Iresearched it out, there were a number of traditional questions regarding the who the women were exactly and by what names they were, so icons throughout the centuries would change the number of women from time to time.

I thought it was interesting to say the least. My conclusion was that there were Myrrhbearers and the Theotokos and Mary of Magdala were present.

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2006, 02:28:04 PM »

The Myhrr-bearers that I can recall are: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of Cleopas, Salome, Susanna.  I thought there was one or two more, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2006, 02:08:47 AM »

The Myhrr-bearers that I can recall are: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of Cleopas, Salome, Susanna.ÂÂ  I thought there was one or two more, but I can't remember off the top of my head.

There's also St. Joannah the Myrrhbearer (I think that's the right spelling in English). I know that because one of my daughter's names is Ioana and I was looking into the saints that shared that name.

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