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« on: August 08, 2006, 12:41:06 AM »

Pretty interesting study, highlighted parts are mine:

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Teens whose iPods are full of music with raunchy, sexual lyrics start having sex sooner than those who prefer other songs, a study found.

Whether it's hip-hop, rap, pop or rock, much of popular music aimed at teens contains sexual overtones. Its influence on their behavior appears to depend on how the sex is portrayed, researchers found.

Songs depicting men as ''sex-driven studs,'' women as sex objects and with explicit references to sex acts are more likely to trigger early sexual behavior than those where sexual references are more veiled and relationships appear more committed, the study found.

Teens who said they listened to lots of music with degrading sexual messages were almost twice as likely to start having intercourse or other sexual activities within the following two years as were teens who listened to little or no sexually degrading music.

Among heavy listeners, 51 percent started having sex within two years, versus 29 percent of those who said they listened to little or no sexually degrading music.

'So common, it's accepted'

Exposure to lots of sexually degrading music ''gives them a specific message about sex,'' said lead author Steven Martino, a researcher for Rand Corp. Boys learn they should be relentless in pursuit of women and girls learn to view themselves as sex objects, he said.

The study, based on interviews with 1,461 participants, appears in the August issue of Pediatrics today.

Natasha Ramsey, a 17-year-old from New Brunswick, N.J., said she sometimes listens to sexually explicit songs because she likes the beat.

''I won't really realize that the person is talking about having sex or raping a girl,'' she said. Even so, the message ''is being beaten into the teens' heads,'' she said. ''We don't even really realize how much.''

''A lot of teens think that's the way they're supposed to be, they think that's the cool thing to do. Because it's so common, it's accepted,'' said Ramsey, a teen editor for Sexetc.org, a teen sexual health Web site.

Benjamin Chavis, chief executive officer of the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network, a coalition of musicians and industry executives, said explicit music lyrics are a cultural expression that reflects ''social and economic realities.''

''We caution rushing to judgment that music more than any other factor is a causative factor'' for teens initiating sex, Chavis said.

Other factors cited

Martino said the researchers tried to account for other factors that could affect teens' sexual behavior, including parental permissiveness, and still found explicit lyrics had a strong influence.

However, Yvonne K. Fulbright, a sex researcher, said factors including peer pressure, self-esteem and home environment are probably more influential than the research suggests.

''It's a little dangerous to just pinpoint one thing. You have to look at everything that's going on in a young person's life,'' she said. ''When somebody has a healthy sense of themselves, they don't take these lyrics too seriously.''

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-lyrics07.html

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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2006, 02:21:42 AM »

In my opinion, I believe sex has been part of music for a long time; whether it be rock & roll, blues, country, rap, hip hop, etc.  It's just that it's not as subtle as it was back in the day.   Today they try to force it on you through the music, just like . . . wellnever mind.  I don't want to start another argument.
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2006, 07:29:58 AM »

Whether or not I think sexually explicit lyrics have an effect (I think they do), a survey-based "study" isn't very conclusive, considering they can't control the variables involved.  There are many limits to the study, and thus causality can't even be conjectured, really.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2006, 08:14:01 AM »

Well, Blueberry Hill and Oh What a Night may be sexual songs, but we had to figure that out "back when", but today's lyrics are nearly porn.
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 08:24:57 AM »

^ You are obviously listeing to too much Snoop Dogg*... again! Grin Grin Grin Grin










*Dogg is spelled with two "g's" as he professes in many of his songs "I'm the D - O - double G".  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2006, 11:03:39 AM »

Music is incredibly powerful in its influence, and sex sells ....  Do the math, I guess?

As for linking sexual lyrics with sexual behavior coming earlier...that's clearly not the only factor.  I think this time it's a case of art imitating life.  Though a part of that article was pretty curious, ''I won't really realize that the person is talking about having sex or raping a girl,'' I can remember while spending two weeks isolated from civilization (read: camp) that when the time came to go home and I had my radio typically loud that a lot of the lyrics that hadn't stuck out to me as being overly vile, were so vile to me I couldn't listen.  Yay for chant.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 03:10:39 PM »

^ You are obviously listeing to too much Snoop Dogg*... again! Grin Grin Grin Grin

Yep. I am a captive audience at work...yuck. "Any" is too much.



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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2006, 11:43:51 PM »

Art tends to go in cycles. We're in a less puritanical one. *shrugs* I've read some "poetry" from ancient times and the middle ages which could give modern rap a run for it's money. People would be explicit in every age if allowed to, the only thing that changes (in a constant circular pattern) is how willing society is in tolerating graphic descriptions and whatnot. Who knows, maybe 15 years from now they won't even be bleeping/muting it out, in which case you can gripe about how bad things have gotten, and how you wish it was more modest, like it was back in good ole 2006. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2006, 12:16:06 AM »

Art tends to go in cycles. We're in a less puritanical one. *shrugs* I've read some "poetry" from ancient times and the middle ages which could give modern rap a run for it's money.

Having read a lot of Catullus while a Classics undergrad, I can see a difference between that obscene poetry and today's modern rap. Catullus might have told his adversaries in his poems, Te pedicabo et te irrumabo "I'll sodomize you and orally rape you", but everyone knew that this was a literary persona and in real life Catullus was an ordinary gentleman. With today's gangsta rap however, rappers really do live out the sort of lifestyle in their lyrics. They have gang connections, they sleep around, they like firearms, and they like brawling. And kids adore both the music and the lifestyles of the rappers.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2006, 09:00:54 AM »

With today's gangsta rap however, rappers really do live out the sort of lifestyle in their lyrics. They have gang connections, they sleep around, they like firearms, and they like brawling. And kids adore both the music and the lifestyles of the rappers.

Or, they could be like Dr. Dre (Andre Young).  A family man (married with Kids), not only moved out of the "hood" but moved accross country because as he says "you can't touch what you can't see", however he remains amongst the most prominent "gangsta rappers" and producers in the biz.

To me, he does a lot more of what Asteriktos says.  He's a gangsta on record only, and exploits the masses for his financial gain.  Isn't that becoming more and more prevalent in modern capitalism?
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