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« on: August 01, 2006, 08:28:18 PM » |
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Hey everybody!
I was wondering...
Now that we're in the Dormition Fast, are there any changes in the services? Different prayers, stichera, troparia, etc.? Dogmatons?
Thanks, -Authio
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2006, 09:22:12 AM » |
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You can check here for the OCA's hymns on different days, as they come up.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2006, 03:34:47 PM » |
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In our parish, we will have additional Paraklesis prayer services supplicating our Most Holy Theotokos.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2006, 07:55:35 PM » |
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I was wondering... Now that we're in the Dormition Fast, are there any changes in the services? Unlike the Great Fast, the Dormition Fast has no supplemental text like the Triodion. The only day of liturgical preparation for the feast is August 14, the "Predprazdnstvo" - the Forefeast. Many parishes will serve the Paraklis (as mentioned previously by Scamandrius) on weekdays of the fast. This service begins with "God is the Lord" and troparia to the Theotokos, contains the Canon of Supplication to the Theotokos, a Gospel Reading from Luke (1:39-49, 56), stichera to the Theotokos (in the Carpatho Russian tradition, these stichera are sung to the special melody (Tone 2), "When from the Tree", the same melody used at the aposticha of Good Friday Vespers - in my opinion, one of the most hauntingly beautiful melodies in Church Chant), and ends with a prayer to the Theotokos.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2006, 10:12:03 PM » |
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Sweet deal!
Where can I find the text of this Paraklesis and/or find a local parish that serves it (as far as I know, mine does not)? I guess I could call them, but I don't often have the time to at work during normal office hours....
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2006, 10:23:56 PM » |
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Paul- I think it is more of a Greek thing, which leaves us OCA folk out in the cold. It's a really nice service though. Holy Apostles in Shoreline and Assumption in Seattle have it. You can hear a recording of the Small Paraklesis here: http://www.goarch.org/en/chapel/learntochant/paraklesis.asp
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2006, 01:01:01 AM » |
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Sweet deal!
Where can I find the text of this Paraklesis and/or find a local parish that serves it (as far as I know, mine does not)? I guess I could call them, but I don't often have the time to at work during normal office hours....
+Bishop Basil, Antiochian Bishop of the Midwest, has the whole service at this link: http://www.networks-now.net/litresswraoc/SVCParaklesis_Theotokos.htmThe instruction on our service book says that this is to be said every night of the Dormition Fast (or in every time of distress and trouble) so have at it. There is no music included, though most of the hymns are in tone 4, the canon in tone 8 and a few things in tone 3 and 2. So if you can chant, chant the Paraklesis! Scamandrius
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2006, 01:03:51 AM » |
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Sorry. Didn't mean to get your hopes up! That link I posted only has the guidelines for how to chant the Paraklesis. THERE
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2006, 01:05:33 AM » |
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Sorry.  Didn't mean to get your hopes up!  That link I posted only has the rubrics for how to chant the Paraklesis.  THERE IS NO TEXT.  But it does give you the places where you can find the texts.  However, I don't know how many people have a copy of the Great Horologion!  I'll keep looking! Scamandrius
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2006, 01:55:56 AM » |
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(Shameless plug for Julian Calendar ACRODers and anyone else in the area):
SATURDAY & SUNDAY, AUG. 26-27: ANNUAL SUMMER PILGRIMAGE IN HONOR OF THE DORMITION OF THE MOST-HOLY MOTHER OF GOD at Camp Nazareth, Mercer, PA. 7 P.M. Great Vespers and Blessing of Bread, Confessions before and after Vespers, Enthronement of the Dormition Shroud. 10 A.M. Hierarchical Divine Liturgy celebrated by His Eminence, Metropolitan Nicholas, assisted by Diocesan Clergy. The Liturgy will be preceded by the blessing of the Pochaev Mother of God icon and the Dormition of the Theotokos Icon. Minor Orders of Tonsure and Sub-Diaconate conferred on four candidates. Choral responses sung by St. Nicholas Church Choir, Homestead, PA under the direction of Reader Andrew Talarovich; and Plain Chant and Choral responses sung before, during and after the Liturgy by the Women's Choir of the Church of the Dormition in Jarabina, Slovakia, under the direction of Dr. Anna Derevjanik. Presentation of Hramota to Ms Donna Yarina in recognition of her years of service to the Diocese and ACRY. Prayers for continued health of Protopresbyters Stephen Dutko, Michael Sopoliga, Peter Buletza and John I. Dolhy. Note: Father John and Pani Patricia Duranko will celebrate their 50th Anniversaries of Ordination and Marriage in 2007. Prayers for departed diocesan Bishops, Priests, Monastics and Diocesan Faithful. 12 Noon: Luncheon (Meal ticket costs $12 per person and must be pre-sent and pre-paid by August 19th), and Singing of Folk Songs by the Jarabina Women's Choir. 1:30 P.M.: Singing of the Moleben for Many Intentions, Blessing of Water, Flowers, Religious Items, Automobiles, and Festival Anointing and Reverencing of the Enthroned Pochaev Icon.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2006, 10:56:13 AM » |
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Ok...this is for you Byzantine chanters out there.
I'm looking for an online link of sheet music for the Paraklesis service in Western notation. The canon is in "Tone 8" in the prayer book; however, on the recordings that I have heard of the service, it seems to have its own melody, almost like Tone 7, but not quite. I can imitate the first ode well enough by ear, but after that, I'm lost, just "freestyling" it when I chant. Can anyone help with a link or other source that may help me chant with the traditional melody? Thank you.
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2006, 12:14:41 PM » |
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The canon is in "Tone 8" in the prayer book; however, on the recordings that I have heard of the service, it seems to have its own melody, almost like Tone 7, but not quite. I can imitate the first ode well enough by ear, but after that, I'm lost, just "freestyling" it when I chant. Can anyone help with a link or other source that may help me chant with the traditional melody? Thank you.
I understand why you are saying tone 7 but the canon melody is plagal 4 (tone  . Most of the "tone 8" canons have a special melody that are very unique and very up beat. There are a number of recordings of the service out there and the best way to learn how to sing it is by singing along with the recording. The great thing about learning this service is that the music is the same for each of the troparion in the ode and if you have a good text each troparion should also have the same meter.
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2006, 12:55:35 AM » |
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Ok...this is for you Byzantine chanters out there.
I'm looking for an online link of sheet music for the Paraklesis service in Western notation. The canon is in "Tone 8" in the prayer book; however, on the recordings that I have heard of the service, it seems to have its own melody, almost like Tone 7, but not quite. I can imitate the first ode well enough by ear, but after that, I'm lost, just "freestyling" it when I chant. Can anyone help with a link or other source that may help me chant with the traditional melody? Thank you.
Michael, I had the opportunity to chant this on Wednesday. The canon is in Tone 8 (with its own idiosyncracies) and is very beautiful and moving. I just wish more people would have shown up! Anyways, as for your question, this is from +Bishop BASIL's website of the Antiochian Diocese of the Midwest: Where can I find the music for the service? The music for the Small Supplicatory Canon may be obtained from the Wichita Chancery. The music for the Great Supplicatory Canon may be found in The Great Paraklesis (published by the St Nikodemos the Hagiorite Publication Society - 6149 Fairway Lane - Wescosville, PA 18106). The address and phone numbers for the Chancery are: 1559 North Woodlawn Boulevard, Wichita, Kansas 67208-2429 Telephone: 316-687-3169 ~ Fax: 316-687-3327 If you want to email a request, go to this website and click send email: http://www.antiochian.org/southwest/wichita_chancery.htmLike I said, it might take a while to get a copy, but at least you would have the music for the next Dormition Fast or for any other time of distress when prayers to our Most Holy Theotokos are welcome. Scamandrius
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2006, 04:23:48 PM » |
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Thanks everyone. I've been listening to Eikona's rendition of the Paraklesis, and it is close enough to traditional Greek recordings I've heard. I think it will help.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2006, 09:47:05 PM » |
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Mode Plagal 4 has 3 different typical styles: the Slow and Slow-fast melody, which is based on Ni (C, or Do) and stays in the lower tetrachord most of the time; the slow-fast and fast melody, which starts on Ni but sticks more around Di (G, Sol) and the upper tetrachord; and the fast melody "according to the three-note" based on Ga (F, Fa) - it is this third style which the canons are done in, when written for Plagal 4th (with a few exceptions).
The Small Paraklesis Canon without exception is chanted in the third style of Plagal 4th. The Great Paraklesis Canon is chanted in this style except (by tradition) the 7th and 8th Odes, which are chanted in the second style I described above. Technically the third style (the Fast, "three-note") actually shifts the scale up, so that what used to be Ga becomes Ni; but this is a discussion for those who really want that kind of depth.
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