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« Reply #225 on: August 24, 2006, 06:48:59 PM » |
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I'd fear the Greeks even when they bear gifts
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« Reply #226 on: August 24, 2006, 06:54:18 PM » |
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[quote author=ΑÃÂÂÂÂÂιÃÂÂĀοκλή link=topic=9421.msg133053#msg133053 date=1156459739]
I'd fear the Greeks even when they bear gifts
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What? Did I miss something?
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« Reply #227 on: August 24, 2006, 06:56:58 PM » |
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[quote author=ΑÃÂÂÂÂÂιÃÂÂĀοκλή link=topic=9421.msg133053#msg133053 date=1156459739]
I'd fear the Greeks even when they bear gifts
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Like that huge hollow wooden cross we're building to donate to the Vatican?
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« Reply #228 on: August 24, 2006, 07:00:20 PM » |
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Like that huge hollow wooden cross we're building to donate to the Vatican?
LOL  I'm so glad to finally meet a Roman Catholic who doesn't offer me "peace" by trying tell to me that we are "one Church" and that The Body of Christ is divided. |
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« Reply #229 on: August 24, 2006, 07:02:15 PM » |
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LOL I'm so glad to finally meet a Roman Catholic who doesn't offer me "peace" by trying tell to me that we are "one Church" and that The Body of Christ is divided. Its because the Body of Christ cannot be divided. We can agree on that.  |
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« Reply #230 on: August 24, 2006, 07:03:57 PM » |
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No, it's clear from their printed statements that they mean the east in general, both Catholics and Orthodox.
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« Reply #231 on: August 24, 2006, 07:25:17 PM » |
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[quote author=ΑÃÂÂÂÂÂιÃÂÂĀοκλή link=topic=9421.msg133067#msg133067 date=1156460637] Oh, more of that "honey" stuff. [/quote] LOL. No. Honey does not mean watering down dogma as the two lung theory does. It means being charitable in one's presentation of truth. |
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« Reply #232 on: August 25, 2006, 08:15:54 AM » |
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Its because the Body of Christ cannot be divided. We can agree on that. If I didn't know any better I'd say your ecclessiology was Orthodox! |
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« Reply #233 on: August 25, 2006, 08:59:39 AM » |
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If I didn't know any better I'd say your ecclessiology was Orthodox! It is; he just doesn't want to admit it yet. |
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« Reply #234 on: August 25, 2006, 09:13:07 AM » |
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It is; he just doesn't want to admit it yet. Or at least it will be if he gives up on the 'True Church is comprised of all those in communion with Rome' stuff. James |
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« Reply #235 on: August 25, 2006, 09:19:48 AM » |
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Or at least it will be if he gives up on the 'True Church is comprised of all those in communion with Rome' stuff. Well, given that Constantinople is Rome, he can easily pull a GiC and make the switch, you know. |
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« Reply #236 on: August 25, 2006, 09:47:15 AM » |
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Well, given that Constantinople is Rome, he can easily pull a GiC and make the switch, you know. LOL! Seriously though, even if he doesn't "pull a GiC" I'm finding this refreshing. If there ever is to be a union between the Latin and Orthodox Churches, this is how we need to meet in dialogue- honestly and as rational beings, not in emotive clap-trap which seeks to sweep doctrinal differences under the carpet. I would prefer to dialogue with one Roman Catholic like "Papist" than with a thousand who say we should "just get together because we're making Jesus sad by dividing the Church." I'd rather face someone from the other side who is as prepared as I am to say " one of us is right and one of us is wrong", rather than " we're both right" (which denies the Singularity of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church), or " we're both wrong" (which denies the very existence of the Church Militant and sees it as some future reality). |
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« Reply #237 on: August 25, 2006, 10:22:26 AM » |
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« Reply #238 on: August 25, 2006, 10:30:57 AM » |
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[quote author=ΑÃÂÂÂÂÂιÃÂÂĀοκλή link=topic=9421.msg132930#msg132930 date=1156441438] Papist, Then Pope John Paul II apologized for WHAT? Please clue me in. This is exactly the kind of junk I was referring to above. [/quote] Articles Stolen From Constantinople: http://aggreen.net/church_history/1204_sack.html |
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« Reply #239 on: August 25, 2006, 10:39:21 AM » |
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Thanks, JoeS Although I do know the history - in even greater depth - reading this has caused me to lose my appetite; time for a new diet anyway... |
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« Reply #240 on: August 25, 2006, 10:45:41 AM » |
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Thats why I'll never visit Venice. The Greek Villages in Calabria on the other hand is due for a visit. |
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« Reply #241 on: August 25, 2006, 10:52:58 AM » |
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Thats why I'll never visit Venice.
The Greek Villages in Calabria on the other hand is due for a visit.
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« Reply #242 on: August 25, 2006, 11:40:31 AM » |
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A friend of mine was at a RCC in Chicago and heard a couple behind him speaking Greiko (the almost extinct Greek dialect of Calabria that is peppered with Italian words).
Does the EP have missions there to revive Orthodoxy? I know the GOC does. It must be interesting and difficult work.
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« Reply #243 on: August 25, 2006, 12:01:46 PM » |
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We'll take the Evangelicals and mainlines. Deal?
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« Reply #244 on: August 25, 2006, 02:06:01 PM » |
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We've already started...my dad and his friends were a sizeable chunk back in '87.
I heard of a group of evangelical Christians that were part of the non-denominational national collge Christian organization called intervarsity who all converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Of course I listen to a tape by an ex-Pentacostal minister. He and most of his congregation converted to the Catholic Church. |
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« Reply #245 on: August 25, 2006, 02:23:55 PM » |
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I heard of a group of evangelical Christians that were part of the non-denominational national collge Christian organization called intervarsity who all converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Of course I listen to a tape by an ex-Pentacostal minister. He and most of his congregation converted to the Catholic Church.
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« Reply #246 on: August 25, 2006, 03:51:01 PM » |
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[quote author=ΑÃÂÂÂÂÂιÃÂÂĀοκλή link=topic=9421.msg133188#msg133188 date=1156530235] Referring to the Evangelical Orthodox, the 2000 who converted to the Antiochian Orthodox all in one day? Yes, well discussed here before. [/quote] How silly of me to bring this up. I should have assumed that it would have been discussed in great detail on this forum.  The only thing left for these converts to do is go all the way and come into communion with Rome. LOL. |
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« Reply #247 on: August 25, 2006, 10:06:20 PM » |
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How silly of me to bring this up. I should have assumed that it would have been discussed in great detail on this forum. The only thing left for these converts to do is go all the way and come into communion with Rome. LOL. Why? They are now in the Catholic Church - you might follow their lead. They came home fighting the Truth all the way but could not deny it. |
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« Reply #248 on: August 26, 2006, 02:10:49 AM » |
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[quote author=ΑÃÂÂÂÂÂιÃÂÂĀοκλή link=topic=9421.msg133260#msg133260 date=1156557980] Why? They are now in the Catholic Church - you might follow their lead. They came home fighting the Truth all the way but could not deny it. [/quote] I love you guys. |
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« Reply #250 on: August 26, 2006, 11:35:04 AM » |
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A friend of mine was at a RCC in Chicago and heard a couple behind him speaking Greiko (the almost extinct Greek dialect of Calabria that is peppered with Italian words).
Does the EP have missions there to revive Orthodoxy? I know the GOC does. It must be interesting and difficult work.
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Part of my mom's family (through marriage) is of this Greiko people. Until now, I did not understand how the Calabrian Italians in the family would say "we spoke a very different italian dialect which was actually Greek..." As far as I know, they are all Catholic but I've heard them mention something about some orthodox churches there...oh and many churches in Calabria and Sicily look exactly like orthodox churches, whereas when you go to northern italy, the churches are all gothic or romanesque. |
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