I think I am just sad that the RCC did not come to help in the time of crisis.
I think it is just that simple.
It got a bit more complicated than thought it would be.
The main thing I get out of this is the RCC could have helped, and looked the other way.
That is the tragedy that stuns me.
Dismus, thanks for opening such a topic, too bad some of us went off topic.
Agia Sofia, is one of the greatest symols of Christianity, if not the greatest (this is debateable)
Agia Sofia is probably the most expensive structure ever built.
The really amazing (and strange) thing is that cathedrals the the Milan Cathedral, the Vatican, Cologne, St Pauls in London where built hundreds of years later and for took many years build. The Milan cathedral took 500 years to build, The Vatican took 109 years to build and St Pauls 35.
Agia Sofya was built in 6 years (532—37 AD)!!!!!!!!
For the construction of Agia Sofia, the finest meterials where used. They say that an angel realeaved the design plans for Agia sofia to emperor Justinian in his dreams during his sleep. There are other myths that when the workers stopped constuction late in the day, the next morning where shocked to see parts already built! They say that angels where assisting in building this stucture.
Agia sofia was the most complicated structure at its time, and the way the dome was built was unique.
Returning to your earlier posts, one of the reasons some Roman catholics dont talk about Agia Sofia, is because of ignorance. The 2 churches went thir separate ways, and in the west the orthodox have been forgotten for may years.
This is also due to the fact that The Byzantine empire, the Serbs and the other Balcan Orthodox came under Ottoman rule for 400 years. In some parts of the Ottoman empire a lot of people for forceably converted to islam. So Orthodoxy had another mission during those years. Not spreading the faith, or argueing with the RCC. But survival of the faith.
Our Russian brothers were quite far away from the west and had for some years their own stuggles. In addition, although many people say that the russian church benefitted from the soviet govenment, actually thats not true. A lot of priests where killed, and churches destroyed. But despit the ottoman rule, communism, world wars Othodoxy still stands and is stronger than ever!!
The Roman Catholics during those years, became greater in numbers, only becuase of the America and other colonies. if i am not mistaken besides parts of western Europe, mostÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š Catholics are found in latin america and the US.
You mentioned that the RCC did not come to help in th time of the crisis. if you read history of that time, the Popes, tryied to take advantage of the dying empire and theÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š danger coming from the turks, and stated that they could only send help if "the churches where united". But with one more detail though. A unity under their conditions...
We had to accept the filioque, the Pope's authority and some other things. Then help could come. When the Emperor was desparate and had not other option, although strong resistance from the people and the church, the Byzantine Emperor signed the deal. Then the Pope send.... 50 men for help
. He aslo started building (He decided this...during the last ottoman attacks) some ships to send supposely more help, but that was too late. ... The Byzantines with the few Latins who fought along side, had the impression that help was sent and waited for that help up until the last moment. A few days before the fall of the City, They sent a ship that escaped from the Ottoman blockage to seek any Western navy nearby, as they truly believed that help was coming.. :'(
When the ship saw no navy in the aegean, the captain instead of fleeing, took the decision to sail back and inform the Emperor Konstantine! When they came back, the informed the Emperor, and he started crying.. There was no hope. The "Vasileuousa", the queen of all Cities, The center of Christianism and Agia SofiaÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š was ready to fall forever.
Thats when they did the last service in AGIA SOFIA, where everyone asked forgiveness from each other. And ran to the walls to meet there proud ancestors.. :'(