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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2006, 02:01:02 AM »
53% Dixie

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2006, 02:03:12 AM »
I'm 43% Dixie.  I guess it because I spent 5 years in the Redneck Riviera, Panama City Beach, FL.

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2006, 02:08:37 AM »
63% Dixie. Just under the Mason-Dixon Line
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2006, 02:14:52 AM »
33% Dixie.... and I think that is WAY too high for me. 

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2006, 02:39:17 AM »
71% Dixie.  Your neck must be a little pink!

Which is a bit surprising since, with the exception of my regular usage of the contraction 'y'all' (it just rolls off the tongue so easily, plus better than further screwing up our language by having an indistinguishable singular and plural in the second person, which I have no doubt contributes to the decline of civilization), my English (along with responses to the survey) is standard for Northern California.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2006, 02:43:04 AM »
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15% Dixie. Wow! You are a Duke of Yankeedom!

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2006, 07:50:55 AM »
26% Dixie. You are a Yankee Doodle Dandy.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2006, 08:02:18 AM »
I'm a Greek hick and an American Yankee. Ha
20% Dixie. Wow! You are a Duke of Yankeedom!
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2006, 08:34:08 AM »
55% Dixie. Barely in Dixie - Yep, Virginia born and raised.  :)
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2006, 08:37:50 AM »


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with the exception of my regular usage of the contraction 'y'all' (it just rolls off the tongue so easily, plus better than further screwing up our language by having an indistinguishable singular and plural in the second person, which I have no doubt contributes to the decline of civilization
Amen to that, brother!ÂÂ  ;)  I've always thought that too.  ;D
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2006, 08:52:18 AM »
20% Dixie. Wow! You are a Duke of Yankeedom!

I guess that is what you get when you cross a Canuck with a New Yorker! ;D
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2006, 09:05:08 AM »
Only 35% Dixie! LOL That kind of surprised me, being born in Georgia and raised in South Carolina. Maybe the three years I lived in Minnesota rubbed off on me.

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2006, 09:14:51 AM »
Wow, 58% Dixie. I may have grown up there but I prefer PA any day. Most here can't pick up any accent and have to ask where I'm from. Few guess the south.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2006, 09:17:53 AM »
100% Dixie.  Is General Lee your grandfather?!   :D
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2006, 09:34:43 AM »
100% Dixie.  Is General Lee your grandfather?!   :D

LOL!   :D :D :D

I forgot I went to Washington & Lee University - something must have stuck...  :)
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2006, 09:43:49 AM »
71% Dixie.  Your neck must be a little pink!
I'm not surprised.  I was born in Oklahoma, spent a few years in Arkansas, was raised in Texas, and now reside in Tennessee.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2006, 03:27:26 PM »
Since when is supporting slavery a form of rebellion?
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2006, 03:31:10 PM »
Since when is supporting slavery a form of rebellion?

You know, I detest the particular institution (i.e. slavery), and I think the good guys won the Civil War (i.e. the North), but Slavery wasn't the only reason why the South seceded, and it would probably be argued by Southern supporters that it wasn't even the biggest of the reasons.  Their concept of what the rebellion was resembled more of what kids think rebellion is now: getting out from "the man," who is different and "doesn't understand," who is just trying to "keep me down" and "keep me from succeeding."
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2006, 04:13:48 PM »
Hi all!

My score was:

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21% Dixie. You are a Yankee Doodle Dandy

The states rights argument was the Confederacy's fig leaf, which they used to cover the evil of chattel slavery. The states rights theory of federalism is old and not (I think) without some merit (see the 1798 Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_and_Virginia_Resolutions, authored by none other than Thomas Jefferson and James Madison). However, by using it to mask the institution of chattel slavery (as it was practiced in the ante-bellum South) I fear that the Confederacy has irretrievably & irreversibly tainted and stained it. Since it will forever be associated with the evil of chattel slavery, few will take it seriously and I think that this is unfortunate.

I include the following because I've always found it both interesting & moving:

"Radical Republican" Thaddeus Stevens died on Aug. 11, 1868. He left instructions that he be buried in a Lancaster, Pa. African American cemetery. The inscription on his tombstone says:

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"I repose in this quiet and secluded spot, not from any natural preference for solitude; but finding other cemeteries limited as to race, by charter rules, I have chosen this that I might illustrate in my death the principles which I advocated through a long life, equality of man before the Creator".

There was plenty of racism in the north too. Most northerners certainly didn't want the freed slaves coming north and unfortunately, by royally screwing up Reconstruction (by not enacting a general redistributive land reform, which would have benefitted poor whites as well; Kenneth M. Stampp says as much in his The Era of Reconstruction, 1865-1877, http://tinyurl.com/539og), the north helped guarantee that black rights would, for the most part, remain on paper only (14th & 15th amendments notwithstanding) when the last Federal troops withdrew from the south in 1877 and racist, white-dominated state governments were restored.

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2006, 04:30:12 PM »
Matthew, are you one of those northern aggressors? ÂÂ  :D

The War of Northern Aggression was the old states' rights issue. ÂÂ I'm also told by a few history teachers that the south was more like an aristocracy. ÂÂ And indeed, there are still towns in the south that are ran, unofficially, by just one, two, or three families- that sometimes feud.  The southern part of the US has traditionally tried to distance itself from the federal government, while the north seems all too eger to invite the federal government in for coffee or a beer.  Slavery was what brought the problem to a boiling point, but it was not the root of the problem.  The root of the problem were the cultural differences, that we still have to this day.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2006, 04:45:45 PM »
I am Southern Baptist...
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2006, 04:49:22 PM »
You see . . . here I thought I was sharing something to have a little fun with.  Little did I know that it would turn in to a history argument.      :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2006, 04:52:05 PM »
Just like good old days of Joe Z....(for us old members). "War of Northern Agression"...sounds just like him.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2006, 05:00:28 PM »
It is my favorite new name for the war; my old roommate used to call it that whenever we'd get into an argument over him taking down his rebel flag.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2006, 05:26:32 PM »
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The War of Northern Aggression

I think you mean SOUTHERN Aggression.  I know reconstruction is moving along more slowly in some places than others, but it is commonly accepted that the rebels fired the first shots...

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2006, 05:27:43 PM »
"36% Dixie. You are definitely a Yankee."  Yes, and proud of it, even though I was born and raised in a border state.

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2006, 05:35:07 PM »
A favorite quote from John Ford's Stagecoach, courtesy of IMDB:

Ringo Kid [The Duke]: Are you Doc Boone?
Dr. Josiah Boone [Thomas Mitchell]: I certainly am. Ah, let's see... I'd just been honorably discharged from the Union Army after the War of the Rebellion [when he set Ringo's brother's broken arm].
Hatfield [John Carradine]: You mean the War for the Southern Confederacy, sir.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2006, 05:47:19 PM »
[quote author=Νεκτάριος link=topic=9385.msg126133#msg126133 date=1151616392]
I think you mean SOUTHERN Aggression.ÂÂ  I know reconstruction is moving along more slowly in some places than others, but it is commonly accepted that the rebels fired the first shots...
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No, I'm pretty sure he meant NORTHERN Aggression.  After all, while Southerners may have fired the first shots, it was Lincoln's occupation of Southern territory that prompted the attack on Fort Sumter, which ceased to be property of the Union government the instant South Carolina seceded.
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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2006, 05:57:10 PM »
No, I'm pretty sure he meant NORTHERN Aggression.ÂÂ  After all, while Southerners may have fired the first shots, it was Lincoln's occupation of Southern territory that prompted the attack on Fort Sumter, which ceased to be property of the Union government the instant South Carolina seceded.

The first shots were fired even before that when the Yankee ship Star of the West, violated the Maritime Rights of the State of South Carolina in an attempt to resupply the above mentioned occupying forces. The State of South Carolina had told the Yankee Government that their ships could not enter South Carolina's waters, yet they ignored this warning and sent a ship INTO CHARLESTOWN HARBOUR, the Captain was warned to turn back, when he refused a warning shot was fired across the bow of the ship, yet the Ship continued to violate South Carolina's seas. At this point the ship was engaged by coastal defence artillery forces and forced to withdraw from Charleston Harbour. Those were the first shots of the war, shots fired in response to the blatant disregard for the Maritime Rights of South Carolina, essentially the same reason the War of 1812 was fought.
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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2006, 06:01:30 PM »
It is my favorite new name for the war; my old roommate used to call it that whenever we'd get into an argument over him taking down his rebel flag.

I hope you were the one arguing that it would be inappropriate to remove the flag, as doing so would be an insult to the brave men who fought and died for the sublime right of self-determination. Given the fact that you live in the South, I'm going to give you the benifit of the doubt for the time being and assume that you're not a scalawag or carpetbagger.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2006, 06:12:46 PM »
21% Dixie. You are a Yankee Doodle Dandy.

....go figure.....

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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2006, 06:14:29 PM »
As an Orthodox Southerner, I've always wondered if there were any Orthodox in the Confederate forces. I have heard that the first Orthodox church in the lower 48 was in New Smyrna, Florida, and was founded by Greek colonists in the 18th Century. Perhaps there were Orthodox in Florida during the War of Northern Aggression. Any info would be appreciated.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2006, 06:19:45 PM »
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21% Dixie. You are a Yankee Doodle Dandy.

It's the inner self trying to come out, George.  Embrace it!  ;)

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2006, 06:26:41 PM »
How do you address a group of people?

You(se) guys
You all
Youse
You'uns, yins
Y'all ----------------------> Throughout southeast US, southern Midwest, and Texas.

I say Y'all not cause im redneck, but cause I'm gangsturrr  :o

28% Dixie. You are a Yankee Doodle Dandy.

Since I dont live in USA, can someone tell me what this means? ???
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2006, 06:30:06 PM »
Sloga, let's just say it is not a good thing.
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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2006, 06:59:10 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2006, 07:15:21 PM »
Sloga, let's just say it is not a good thing.

Why?  ???
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2006, 07:35:55 PM »
Sloga,

Don't let the beer drinking, snapping turtle eating, nascar watching Rebel tell you there is anything wrong with being a Yankee.  The Yanks not only won the war, but they have the best baseball team to boot!!!  :P ;D

Plus, a Serb can't be a Southerner, its just not natural.

Reminds me of when I went to Texas (fishing) with my Dad.  After a while of hearing "yall" so much, he leans over to me a whispers... "pa sta je to yall" - LOL

He was also confused by "yonder", needless to say, he's a Yankee too!
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2006, 07:43:30 PM »
The Yanks not only won the war, but they have the best baseball team to boot!!!ÂÂ  :P ;D

Okay, I'm forced to concede that the Yankees do have the best team money can buy. :P
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2006, 07:47:45 PM »
The War of Northern Aggression was the old states' rights issue. ÂÂ

Since when is slavery a matter of states' rights?

The root of the problem were the cultural differences, that we still have to this day.

Would racism be one of them?
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« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2006, 07:59:39 PM »
Okay, I'm forced to concede that the Yankees do have the best team money can buy. :P

Yankees???ÂÂ  I thought he was talking about the Mets.
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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2006, 08:13:59 PM »
Sloga, what Veniamin meant, I'm sure, is that it's not a good thing, but rather a great thing.ÂÂ  ;)

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Re: Are You A Yankee or a Rebel
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2006, 08:16:43 PM »
Well in that case...Proud to be Yankee !  ;D ;D ;D
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