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You have alot of very good rundowns on this, the problem as I see it though is that, if you do unite under the EP, then you're kind of giving up your ethnic identity. I don't really want to sound supportive of nationalism, but I do think that it is something that really needs to be handled delicately. I remember when the EP came to Chicago and held a 4 hour Liturgy at Navy Pier that was all in Greek. Well, for the rest of the jurisdictions, that doesn't do much. You can't expect non-greeks to unite under a patriarch who "gives the appearance" that he is Greek. Much the same you can't expect the Greeks to fall under a patriarch who "gives the appearance" that he is russian. Many of the problems encountered by orthodoxy are all because of nationalistic identities and an unwillingness to give up an ethnocentrism to join the nationality of Orthodoxy. -Nick
Both the Roman Catholic and the Eastern Orthodox Churches claim to be THE Catholic Church. That's the important theological point.Otherwise, capitals are really an incidental question of English style and usage, since the original documents of the early Church, in both Greek and Latin, used either (a) all capitals or (b) a cursive style with no capitals. Thus, the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed (whose final version didn't come about until Chalcedon) was probably written in ALL capitals with no punctuation marks or spaces between letters and words. All printed translations of the Creed I have read (in Latin, French, German, Romanian and English) capitalize all of the adjectives. Thus, all of the versions of the Creed in my possession say: "One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church." But, like I said, that's just a reflection of the modern editor's typographical predilections based on whatever standard of English usage he favors. One can decide to capitalize or not capitalize whatever one wants.
you know...Its hard for me to hold back with all this nationalism talk because its true. I cant speak for Romania, Greece, Russia etc... But I can tell you a little about Serbia. Serbs will never think twice when asked what religion they are. Theyll say Orthodox Christian with emphasis and pride, but for all the wrong reasons. I mean, its hard to explain but if your not Orthodox, your not really Serbian, but people want to be proud nationalist Serbs so they declare themselves as proud Orthodox Christians. Being Orthodox for them is just another part of being Serbian like celebrating their Slavas. I remember once this serbian guy asked my romanian friend if he celebrates Christmas on Jan 7th, and obviously he said no, the serb then accused him of being a false Orthodox Christian!!! You can even be an proud Orthodox Christian and not believe God exists. ahhhhhh ! My bloods beginning to boil I better stop now, and I havent even said half of what I was planning on saying.
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