Sorry if I was unclear, I was simply giving a few suggestions for what might have been used, the constructions, all three of them, were entirely linguistic without me doing any research into primary sources...I spent a few minutes looking for a few but when I came up empty handed I just thought I'd throw a few things out there with my primary purpose being to emphasize the strong Anglo-Saxon culture that existed in England prior to the Norman invasion.
Ah. Thank you for clarifying matters. We are quite in agreement that there was a strong Anglo-Saxon culture in England. There were also many other strains and influences depending on time and place, the Celtic, the Danes/Norse, the Norman/French (for example Robert of Jumieges, a Norman, was briefly Archbishop of Canterbury by the wishes of King Edward. http://www.britannia.com/bios/abofc/rjumieges.html
) But all of these were, as you say, western European.
I have been in discussions where posters tried to show a deep tie to Constantinople via the "Varangian Guard". Never mind the facts of who actually went to Mikklagard (Constan.) to join and *why* (that's where the gold was and if you were outlawed it was a place to go), why the Emperor hired them (no local loyalties. He paid them, he was hte boss.) and how if they survived they came back to Norway, Iceland, and so forth. I can provide links and citations to translated Sagas about that if you're interested.
More often than not I cause them for myself...like when I threw the off comment that I support the Ordination of Women into an unrelated thread to get a rise out of a few people...did it ever, if this was RL I'd probably be burned at the stake by now
Well, I *had* noticed that one, yes.
And I did find your explanation of your change of mind interesting and refreshing.
I would pretty much agree with you here; the influences on England were clearly Roman, not Constantinopolitan; England was western as any other Church in western Europe...it was not exactly like Rome, but no Church outside of, well, Rome was. And the dividing line was most certainly not the Norman Conquest, England drifted away from the East just like the rest of the West, over the centuries due to poor communications and lack of travel and cultural integration, it began as soon as the Empire was divided between east and west.
Exactly. Most people never left their home areas. Communication across long distances took months if not longer. Combinations of cultural influences changed things. There were marriages and exchanges of information across the channel for centuries. England was not an isolated country. I have found that It is not widely known that we have existing primary documents from the Anglo-Saxon times so some things are clearly stated with whos and whens. Do you really want to go into any depth on this subject?
Our Church is a purely Eastern expression of the Christian Faith, to try to create a 'western orthodox church' is artificial and disingenuous at best. The CoE and the RC Church both have good claims to being the Ancient Church of the British Isles, but we Orthodox do not.
!!! I think it may be a Sign of the Apocolypse! You and I are in peaceful agreement here.