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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2006, 02:46:03 PM »

I'm a data analyst and statistician

Ditto...sorta....
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« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2006, 04:01:56 PM »

An excellent article on Global Warming without the psuedo-science bluster.
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"Ever since the debate broke out over climate change, the world’s attention has been riveted on computer-driven horror stories and the positively silly idea of establishing global-weather control by actively managing the atmosphere’s greenhouse-gas emissions. This focus has gathered up a lethal coalition of people with diverse motivations for promoting it. I call it a lethal coalition because, for nearly 20 years, this coalition has killed off any attempt to look at climate change through a rational lens, and to look at climate policy in a pragmatic way."
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« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2013, 04:22:56 PM »

It’s official: 2012 was the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states, as the country experienced blistering spring and summer heat, tinderbox fire weather conditions amid a widespread drought, and one of the worst storms to ever strike the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), 2012 had an average temperature of 55.3°F, which eclipsed 1998, the previous record holder, by 1°F. That was just off Climate Central’s calculation in mid-December, which projected an expected value of 55.34°F, based on historical data.
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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2013, 04:28:12 PM »

YAWN....
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« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2013, 05:12:58 PM »

It’s official: 2012 was the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states, as the country experienced blistering spring and summer heat, tinderbox fire weather conditions amid a widespread drought, and one of the worst storms to ever strike the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), 2012 had an average temperature of 55.3°F, which eclipsed 1998, the previous record holder, by 1°F. That was just off Climate Central’s calculation in mid-December, which projected an expected value of 55.34°F, based on historical data.
Unfortunately for us, this just means more rain.  Sad
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« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2013, 05:33:50 PM »

It’s official: 2012 was the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states, as the country experienced blistering spring and summer heat, tinderbox fire weather conditions amid a widespread drought, and one of the worst storms to ever strike the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), 2012 had an average temperature of 55.3°F, which eclipsed 1998, the previous record holder, by 1°F. That was just off Climate Central’s calculation in mid-December, which projected an expected value of 55.34°F, based on historical data.
Unfortunately for us, this just means more rain.  Sad

I would not fret just yet.if one reads this piece carefully it states a record high since 1998;s record. This means that 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 were all LOWER than the previous high. I am not impressed; no need to hoard umbrellas.  Wink
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« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2013, 05:39:29 PM »

It’s official: 2012 was the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states, as the country experienced blistering spring and summer heat, tinderbox fire weather conditions amid a widespread drought, and one of the worst storms to ever strike the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), 2012 had an average temperature of 55.3°F, which eclipsed 1998, the previous record holder, by 1°F. That was just off Climate Central’s calculation in mid-December, which projected an expected value of 55.34°F, based on historical data.
Unfortunately for us, this just means more rain.  Sad

I would not fret just yet.if one reads this piece carefully it states a record high since 1998;s record. This means that 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 were all LOWER than the previous high. I am not impressed; no need to hoard umbrellas.  Wink
Do you notice a slight upward trend?  Shocked

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« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2013, 06:07:16 PM »

It’s official: 2012 was the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states, as the country experienced blistering spring and summer heat, tinderbox fire weather conditions amid a widespread drought, and one of the worst storms to ever strike the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), 2012 had an average temperature of 55.3°F, which eclipsed 1998, the previous record holder, by 1°F. That was just off Climate Central’s calculation in mid-December, which projected an expected value of 55.34°F, based on historical data.
Unfortunately for us, this just means more rain.  Sad

I would not fret just yet.if one reads this piece carefully it states a record high since 1998;s record. This means that 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 were all LOWER than the previous high. I am not impressed; no need to hoard umbrellas.  Wink
Believe me, when you live were I live, there's need.

It's the same in all of Scandinavia.
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« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2013, 10:20:34 PM »

It’s official: 2012 was the warmest year on record in the lower 48 states, as the country experienced blistering spring and summer heat, tinderbox fire weather conditions amid a widespread drought, and one of the worst storms to ever strike the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast.

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), 2012 had an average temperature of 55.3°F, which eclipsed 1998, the previous record holder, by 1°F. That was just off Climate Central’s calculation in mid-December, which projected an expected value of 55.34°F, based on historical data.
Unfortunately for us, this just means more rain.  Sad

I would not fret just yet.if one reads this piece carefully it states a record high since 1998;s record. This means that 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 were all LOWER than the previous high. I am not impressed; no need to hoard umbrellas.  Wink
Do you notice a slight upward trend?  Shocked



When that graph goes further back, which it originally did as I recall and before NASA removed the earlier data to skew the results, I might admit a trend, probably solar caused...and hope for more. I like warm. Nothing we can really do about it except use it to feed hysteria and soften the chickens little up for more baloney taxes.
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« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2013, 11:00:42 PM »

BTW, on what basis do you make a GLOBAL claim based on a data set from the "Contiguous U.S.", anyway? Hysterics run amok, wild leaps of "logic"...
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« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2013, 04:30:46 AM »

BTW, on what basis do you make a GLOBAL claim based on a data set from the "Contiguous U.S.", anyway? Hysterics run amok, wild leaps of "logic"...

There might be just a few Australians who would say so .... with record temperatures over the past ten days, 2012 listed as the hottest on record in that country, fires raging in four states and one territory (and Australian states are much larger than American states) as we speak ...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/topic/fires

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« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2013, 06:11:45 AM »

2012 was as cold and rainy as always in the Netherlands, perhaps even more so than in previous years.
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« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2013, 08:55:38 AM »

2012 was as cold and rainy as always in the Netherlands, perhaps even more so than in previous years.

It was the wettest year since records began in England and the second wettest for the UK as a whole - and it certainly wasn't warm,. I'd also note that our Met Office has now revised down their previous predictions for half a degree centigrade of warming by 2017. Apparently, if this new revision is correct, there will have been no appreciable warming for the last 20 years. I don't doubt that climate is changing, I do doubt that those most stridently blowing the 'global warming' trumpets actually know much more than that. It certainly seems that both their predictions of future trends and explanations of cause are far too fragile to warrant the confidence with which they prognosticate.

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« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2013, 12:09:29 PM »

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So? China had the coldest on record. Whats your point?

If it was so conclusive, why fake data?

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« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2013, 05:57:48 PM »

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Show us the data for the years 800 through 1890 please so we can see how it did this before.
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« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2013, 06:22:02 PM »

I'm not all that worried about global warming. I don't disbelieve it's happening. I also don't disbelieve that, according to volcanologists, there are several immense volcanoes ready to blow, all of which have the potential to create global cooling. Maybe it'll all get balanced out.
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« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2013, 06:35:35 PM »

I'm not all that worried about global warming. I don't disbelieve it's happening. I also don't disbelieve that, according to volcanologists, there are several immense volcanoes ready to blow, all of which have the potential to create global cooling. Maybe it'll all get balanced out.

Hurry, if you cannot explain how humans have caused the volcanoes to explode you will be sent to Siber...Alaska on charges of Thoughcrimes.
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« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2013, 07:15:53 PM »

I'm not all that worried about global warming. I don't disbelieve it's happening. I also don't disbelieve that, according to volcanologists, there are several immense volcanoes ready to blow, all of which have the potential to create global cooling. Maybe it'll all get balanced out.

Hurry, if you cannot explain how humans have caused the volcanoes to explode you will be sent to Siber...Alaska on charges of Thoughcrimes.

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