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Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« on: March 30, 2006, 11:17:07 PM »
Greetings all,
I have been searching for a translation of the full text of the Bull Cardinal Humbert slapped on the altar so many years ago.

A search turns up a great many articles referencing the event back in 1054 but no site seems to carry the text. (I suppose if I keep looking I might find it in a few decades).

Does anyone reading here know of an archive where this information might be kept?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2006, 12:14:58 AM »
I was under the impression that after Humbert left the document on the altar, a deacon went running after him pleading with him to take it back, and it ended up on the ground and was thus lost to history.

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Re: Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 05:17:57 AM »
It ended with "You've been punk'd"
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Re: Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2006, 12:03:21 AM »
Greetings all,
I have been searching for a translation of the full text of the Bull Cardinal Humbert slapped on the altar so many years ago.

A search turns up a great many articles referencing the event back in 1054 but no site seems to carry the text. (I suppose if I keep looking I might find it in a few decades).

Does anyone reading here know of an archive where this information might be kept?

Thanks in advance!

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Michael, that sinner

Michael,

English translations of Cardinal Humbert's bull and Patriarch Michael's response are in Byzantium:  Church, Society, and Civilization Seen through Contemporary Eyes, edited by Deno John Geanakoplos, University of Chicago Press, 1984.  This book contains lots of primary sources in translation on all aspects of the Byzantine Empire.

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Re: Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2006, 05:56:48 AM »
Michael,

English translations of Cardinal Humbert's bull and Patriarch Michael's response are in Byzantium:  Church, Society, and Civilization Seen through Contemporary Eyes, edited by Deno John Geanakoplos, University of Chicago Press, 1984.  This book contains lots of primary sources in translation on all aspects of the Byzantine Empire.

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Re: Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2006, 08:58:02 AM »
It is useful to be able to distinguish the Roman Empire that included Rome from the one that did not.

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Re: Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2006, 01:59:56 PM »
I understand the reference as the relocated Roman Imperial palace at Byzantion...then renamed as Constantinopolis nova Roma...the New Rome, the Eastern Capitol...especially after Old Rome fell...

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Re: Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2006, 11:14:22 PM »
If we're going to name the Empire after the Capital, then it should be Constantinopolium, or New Rome.  
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Re: Text of the "Bull" of 1054
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 10:24:38 PM »
Greetings all,
I have been searching for a translation of the full text of the Bull Cardinal Humbert slapped on the altar so many years ago.

A search turns up a great many articles referencing the event back in 1054 but no site seems to carry the text. (I suppose if I keep looking I might find it in a few decades).

Does anyone reading here know of an archive where this information might be kept?

Full text of the Excommunication
http://www.acad.carleton.edu/curricular/MARS/Schism.pdf


 Here are the accusations in the Excommunication by Cardinal Humbert and Frederic of Lorraine, Papal Exchequer at the time and future Pope.


 1. they [the Greeks] sell the gift of God
 2. they castrate their guests
 3. they rebaptize those already baptized in the name
     of the holy Trinity, and especially Latins
 4. they claim that with the exception of the Greek Church,
     the Church of Christ and baptism has perished from the world
 5. they allow and defend the carnal marriages of the ministers
    of the sacred altar
 6. they say that the law of Moses is accursed
 7. they cut off the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Son
 8. they state that leave is ensouled (animatum)
 9. they preserve the carnal cleanness of the Jews to such an
     extent that they refuse to baptize dying babies before
     eight days after birth
 10. they refuse to communicate with pregnant or menstruating
     women and they forbid them to be baptized if they are pagan
 11. they grow the hair on their head and beards, and they
     will not receive in communion those who tonsure their hair and
     shave their beards following the decreed practice (institutio)
     of the Roman Church.


 Fr Ambrose