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Offline Matthew777

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Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« on: March 22, 2006, 12:28:04 AM »
I'm wondering if there are any colleges in the Western world or the United States specifically that offer courses that focus solely on Eastern Orthodox iconography as an artform. That would be a pretty cool class to take.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2006, 01:13:37 AM »
I would be rather surprised if there are any classes offered that look on iconography at anything more than an overview of one class session or even two would almost be shocking.  It is rather foreign to most and they don't understand it.

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2006, 01:25:44 AM »
In my opinion, Orthodox iconography is superior to all other art in terms of purpose, function and style.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2006, 11:02:52 AM »
if you look carefully, you can find iconography lessons by various monasteries, churches, ethnic community centres, and master iconographers.

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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 12:16:54 PM »
In my opinion, Orthodox iconography is superior to all other art religious depictions due to purpose and function. and style.

IFYQ. ;)

You seem to have a lot of opinions, Matthew.


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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 04:17:26 PM »
You seem to have a lot of opinions, Matthew.

This opinion happens to be correct. Too much of "modern" Western art is grotesque and meaningless.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2006, 04:22:00 PM »
In your opinion.  Others are very moved by Western art, not to mention that the largest Orthodox Church (i.e the Russian) uses much western art and music.

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2006, 05:07:22 PM »
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Too much of "modern" Western art is grotesque and meaningless.

This fills me with grr. Check out some Rothko or Kandinsky or Mondrian. Modern art is great. It's the post-modern stuff that's crap, cos it abandons visual elements entirely and focuses solely on concept.

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2006, 07:21:21 PM »
Those images are poo poo compared to Orthodox iconography.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2006, 07:38:14 PM »
Those images are poo poo compared to Orthodox iconography.

yBeayf (btw, I have no idea what the heck your username is supposed to mean), I'm inclined to go with Matthew on this one.  Even most modern art, I just look at and ask myself, "Why?" or "What's the point?"

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2006, 08:14:42 PM »
I thought modern meant last 500 years....

If that is what is being spoken of, some of the Roman Catholic Churches are simply AMAZING.  As art (setting spirituality aside) I think it would be hard to claim that Orthodox (and by that what is meant? Byzantine, Romanian, Russian, Coptic?) iconography is inherently better.  

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2006, 08:22:28 PM »
Those images are poo poo compared to Orthodox iconography.

Iconography serves a particular spiritual purpose. It is in an entirely different class of artistic creation than modern art, which is meant to explore possibilities of form and perception. There's no reason one can't enjoy both. I love the music sung during the liturgy, but I go home and listen to Boulez, same thing. Spiritual art and secular art do not compete with each other, they each have their roles.

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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2006, 10:57:14 PM »
Iconography serves a particular spiritual purpose. It is in an entirely different class of artistic creation than modern art, which is meant to explore possibilities of form and perception. There's no reason one can't enjoy both. I love the music sung during the liturgy, but I go home and listen to Boulez, same thing. Spiritual art and secular art do not compete with each other, they each have their roles.
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Re: Eastern Orthodoxy iconography as an artform
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2006, 10:59:16 PM »
Sorry all . Did not mean to post. Just seeing if my reply tab is working
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