OrthodoxChristianity.net
October 22, 2014, 12:05:46 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Reminder: No political discussions in the public fora.  If you do not have access to the private Politics Forum, please send a PM to Fr. George.
 
   Home   Help Calendar Contact Treasury Tags Login Register  
Pages: « 1 2  All   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Serbia rejects Kosovo independence  (Read 6073 times) Average Rating: 0
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
SouthSerb99
Archbishop of Shlivo, Patriarch of All Vodkas & Defender Against All Overstepping!
Site Supporter
Archon
*****
Offline Offline

Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Serbian Orthodox Church
Posts: 2,800


Now Internet Forum Friendly


WWW
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2006, 04:21:44 PM »

There's no such thing as a fair trial before the Hague, the verdict has been rendered before the charges are announced. And people wonder why we insist on sticking with our Legal system, even if it isn't perfect it's a lot better than the alternative.

GiC,

     You know, I've had this debate with a couple of my colleagues and I have said that if I could try the Milosevic case in small town America, where a majority of people don't know the difference between Serbia and Siberia, I could win.  Given the strict evidentiary standards in our justice system, I agree with you 100%.

     Unlike the Hague, where hearsay, piled upon hearsay seems to be the norm, along with total speculation, surmise and outright lies.
Logged

"Wherever you go, there you are."
 Guy from my office

Orthodox Archbishopric of Ohrid
Hungry? Click Here
Fr. George
formerly "Cleveland"
Administrator
Stratopedarches
*******
Offline Offline

Faith: Orthodox (Catholic) Christian
Jurisdiction: GOA - Metropolis of Pittsburgh
Posts: 20,091


May the Lord bless you and keep you always!


« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2006, 05:23:23 PM »

I'm presuming, from what little I've read in the ways of summaries and transcripts, that there are different standards of preparation and presentation for prosecution and defense, and unlike the American system, it seems the defense has all the burden here.
Logged

"The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the one who can't read them." Mark Twain
---------------------
Ordained on 17 & 18-Oct 2009. Please forgive me if earlier posts are poorly worded or incorrect in any way.
cizinec
High Elder
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 941


There ain't no way but the hard way.


« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2006, 12:39:33 PM »

You can listen to the farse off the tribunal's website.  They have most of the sessions there.  Milosevic doesn't do himself many favors, but the prosecution with the judges make up the rules of the "court" as they go along and the defense has no say.
Logged

"Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery."
serb1389
Lord, remember me when you come into your Kingdom!
Global Moderator
Merarches
******
Offline Offline

Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Greek Orthodox Metropolis of San Francisco
Posts: 8,402


Michał Kalina's biggest fan

FrNPantic
WWW
« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2006, 09:49:25 PM »

http://hdr.undp.org/docs/reports/national/KOS_Kosovo/Kosovo_2004_en.pdf

This has the census of Kosovo along with a report by the UN from 2003.  Here are some quick facts from teh document.  

Ethnicity
Kosovan Albanians
Kosovan Serbs
Other ethnic minorities
Total
Number
4.387
495
325
5.207
Percent in
KPS
84.2
9.5
6.2
100
Percent in
Population
88 (Albanian)
7 (Serb)
5 (other)
100 (total)

I hope that this makes sense, sorry but the PDF wasn't working with me.  I tried adding in the catagories for population to make it easier, otherwise just follow the order for each catagory.

Logged

I got nothing.
I forgot the maps
March 27th and May 30th 2010 were my Ordination dates, please forgive everything before that
cizinec
High Elder
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 941


There ain't no way but the hard way.


« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2006, 10:55:13 PM »

Was that before or after Serbs were forced out?
Logged

"Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery."
serb1389
Lord, remember me when you come into your Kingdom!
Global Moderator
Merarches
******
Offline Offline

Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Greek Orthodox Metropolis of San Francisco
Posts: 8,402


Michał Kalina's biggest fan

FrNPantic
WWW
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2006, 12:27:10 AM »

Its from 2003 so after.  But someone asked me for that information.  It is pretty much the same before the bombing.  I would say around 1990 this was the same exact case.  The Serb population might have been around 10-15%  but the overwhelming majority was Albanian.  
Logged

I got nothing.
I forgot the maps
March 27th and May 30th 2010 were my Ordination dates, please forgive everything before that
cizinec
High Elder
******
Offline Offline

Posts: 941


There ain't no way but the hard way.


« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2006, 12:58:46 AM »

You mean that is the number before the Serbs were forced out in this particular decade and not counting the other periods of genocide and mass expulsion since 1900.
Logged

"Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery."
serb1389
Lord, remember me when you come into your Kingdom!
Global Moderator
Merarches
******
Offline Offline

Faith: Eastern Orthodox
Jurisdiction: Greek Orthodox Metropolis of San Francisco
Posts: 8,402


Michał Kalina's biggest fan

FrNPantic
WWW
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2006, 10:56:15 AM »

IF I understood your question correctly then yes.  These numbers have only changed in the last 30 years, or maybe even a little bit longer.  I would say that in the late 70's, early 80's the numbers were closer to 70-80% Serb and 20-30% Albanian.  So only in the last 2-3 decades have the numbers changed.  

The numbers changed due to the rutheless expulsion of Serbs from Kosovo from the Kosovar Albanians.  I can try to look up numbers from those specific years to give you a better idea.

In the 1900's, i'm not sure exactly what happened.  I would have to really look that one up.  Are you familiar with what went on then?  I was not aware of any expulsion of Serbs from Kosovo at that time...
Logged

I got nothing.
I forgot the maps
March 27th and May 30th 2010 were my Ordination dates, please forgive everything before that
Tags:
Pages: « 1 2  All   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.048 seconds with 35 queries.