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Offline bergschlawiner

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The New Byzantium
« on: February 08, 2006, 01:15:09 PM »
The New Byzantium?
Does our time also lack its Byzantium? Or do we have our own Constantinople, just waiting to have its walls breached by the siege engines and cannons of the barbarians? Read on at
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/01/new-byzantium.html

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Re: The New Byzantium
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2006, 03:33:54 PM »
Nice post/article; I would only say one thing, from the perspective of Orthodoxy: we were the Roman Empire until hundreds of years after we ceased to exist, when the French decided we were Byzantine.

So where is our Constantinople?  I don't think we have one city, but maybe our culture is the new Constantinople... who knows. 
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Re: The New Byzantium
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2006, 12:00:49 AM »
That was a very good link- thanks!

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Re: The New Byzantium
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2006, 12:35:19 AM »
the secular, materialistic West in the northern hemisphere will never survive the next 100-200 years;
the next half millenium will be decided by China and the muslims;
the wild card is the southern hemisphere - probably where the hope for the long tem survival of Christianity lies

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Re: The New Byzantium
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2006, 01:20:17 AM »
the secular, materialistic West in the northern hemisphere will never survive the next 100-200 years;
the next half millenium will be decided by China and the muslims;
the wild card is the southern hemisphere - probably where the hope for the long tem survival of Christianity lies

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Re: The New Byzantium
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 01:24:11 AM »
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the secular, materialistic West in the northern hemisphere will never survive the next 100-200 years;
the next half millenium will be decided by China and the muslims;
the wild card is the southern hemisphere - probably where the hope for the long tem survival of Christianity lies

Good observation.....Imagine somehow China being the savior of the world down the road after the 'west' has collapsed under moral relativism and a possible takeover by the islamist (already starting to see it in Europe). The Chinese have no problem stamping out fanaticism  of any kind and boy I wish I could see the day when the muslims do something to really piss off the Chinese and it all comes to a head.. ;D They won't get apologies and nice gestures like they do from the west; it could get real ugly with those two in the mix.
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Re: The New Byzantium
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 02:48:50 AM »
the wild card is the southern hemisphere - probably where the hope for the long tem survival of Christianity lies

Woo-hoo!!! .....Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi, oi, oi!
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Re: The New Byzantium
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 02:51:09 AM »
Woo-hoo!!! .....Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi, oi, oi!

I was thinking Antarctica, myself, but ok  :P
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Re: The New Byzantium
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 10:15:55 AM »
"I was thinking antartica..."

now THAT made me literally laughout loud!