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Offline czzham

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Re: Gay-Friendly Churches in Washington State
« Reply #270 on: April 01, 2006, 05:19:21 AM »
Lord, preserve us!

I'm really not sure I needed to see those. :-\

Abomination, indeed! I feel that. Yuckk!!!
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Re: Gay-Friendly Churches in Washington State
« Reply #271 on: April 01, 2006, 05:20:46 AM »
Everyone knows that the angels that surround God's Throne constantly sing "Agios! Agios! Agios!" and the Archangel Michael whispers the translation in God's ear, "Svjat! Svjat! Svjat!"
LOL! Love it!!! ;D
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I apologize for, and take back, every statement I made on this thread.

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No employer should have to hire someone simply based on their sexual agenda or behaviors. That is where this is headed.  Sexuality is but one tiny component of human behavior, and it is not a vital one for life. There are enough hetero couples that are propagating the species, so there are no worries there for time being.  However, to afford special recognition to a group exclusively for their sexual escapades is just simply bizarre. One cannot help if they were born with an abundance of melanin or lack of it.  One cannot chose what ethnic people group they are born from.  One can keep from acting out sexual behaviors.  Since sexuality is not nearly as vital as say, oxygen or water, I can't for the life of me figure out why it's elevated so highly in our society.  Even on this list, why should it be such an issue? Do any of us want to stand before God giving an account for a life that wallowed in sexuality and has little else to show?
 Every church father would not have spoken in favor of homosexuality and then helped canonize scripture that says it's wrong. The early father's, if they spoke of it, spoke against it. It's just wrong.  Then again, so is hetero fornication.  Wrong is wrong, whether we like it or not. 
If I am an employer, I should not be made to hire people that are adamantly opposed to me and my views and values.  If we elevate sexual choice to a level of protection like this, then by default, employers and landlords are forced to deal with issues that affect their quality of life.  It's not about being homosexual, or even about practicing the behavior.  It's about promoting an agenda to force every single solitary soul on the planet to accept wrong behavior and cater to homosexuals despite (because of) it. I don't cater to anyone just because they demand it, not my kids or people around me.  As my teen who was molested by her (later) gay uncle says, "Dude, it's just sex-get over it" She gets a little more colorful than that, but I will spare y'all.

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I apologize for, and take back, every statement I made on this thread.

Mind if an un-informed Me may ask why?  ???
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Hey so what if your looking to hire a gay male prostitute. You found out he's straight, you cant fire him?  :D
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If I am an employer, I should not be made to hire people that are adamantly opposed to me and my views and values.

Just so you know, it's also illegal to discriminate by religion when hiring, these too are 'views and values,' I guess, of course, you may insist that you believe you should be able to insist people change their religion when working for you, but such backwards ideologies are not the basis of enlightened western societies. Frankly, if their religion or sexuality doesn't interfere in their work, why the hell should it matter? You're purchasing their labour, not their soul.
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True, it is illegal to discriminate by religion.  How does one get around this if they operate a business that is Christian in nature?  Why could I easily avoid hiring a convicted rapist (sexually deviant) but not someone that likes to sexually utilize young boys? (also sexually deviant) I have to wait for a "conviction" to take place on their record, and in the meantime expose my own boys. (family businesses typically have family around from time to time, KWIM?)    I know a few gay people that have actually said they would go apply at places like this JUST to cause trouble. Their sexuality is their hobby, their focus and purpose.  So it surrounds every action. It flavors, affects and directs every action.  I simply don't have time to put up with that sort of crap. 
Our former church had a support group for sexual brokenness. It started out with a group of men that struggled with porn and it's related issues, and a group for the women that had to deal with their husbands addiction to porn and related issues.  Then men that were struggling with homosexuality came to the group.  Seems like a good idea, but all the men struggling with hetero issues were so uncomfortable because while it's all sexual brokenness,  homo and hetero issues are just too different to lump them together.  I still worked with the women, whether their dh's had gay urges or they were molested by father's addicted to porn, or dh's-whatever.  But the men's group had to be divided.  The hetero guys were crying out to God and sharing their most personal struggles, and the gay guys were struggling and trying not to be be attracted to the straight guys in the group.  It was a mess. The issues and urges have the same root, but from there they are polor opposites.  neither group of guys could identify with the other, so there was little comraderie or accountability with one another. when guys are destroying their lives with porn, but can't feel safe while work towards healing -that's not a good situation.  I think this a "hot button" topic because most of us are sick and tired of everything be hijacked by gays.  Everyone has the option of doing their own thing, but they don't have the right to do it right in front of me or my children or force their opinions into my family's life. It doesn't make a Christian intolerant to say "this is wrong and I don't want to be around it"  any sexually deviant behavior makes my skin crawl, mainly because I have personally had to survive so much of it.  so I have zero tolerance for any sexual agenda.  That isn't meant to offend, but I can't picture God tolerating an entire life wasted for pursuit of sexual gratification either.  how tolerant will He be if he put sexuality on one context, and a person did everything to avoid that context and shook their fist in His face?