Mor Ephrem (Phil)
Thank you for your kind welcome. I am not interested in making enemies here. Generally I wish you and everyone well. As a clergyman, however, I have a duty to the truth.
I hope you will understand that when I come across people like you that bury their head in the sand when it comes to "the truth" about the history of your church, it "lights my fire". Others in this thread have presented clear facts about the history of your church. Yet you try to mislead people from other Oriental Orthodox Churches into thinking that your church was legitimately formed and in complete harmony with the rest of orthdoxy.
You say you have not "heard enough to change your mind." You present no argument "of Christian
substance" to back your claims of autocephaly, much less locking up churches, accepting Bishops who "jump ship with property," and your "respect" for the church outside India.
Aside from your support of a church bent on destroying the Malankara Jacobite Church in order to cement legitimacy, I am sure you're a nice guy. At least George has told me so in the past. So, I wish you well, but I hope you wake up one day. Jesus is not the Lord of schism, but of unity.
Earlier, you made some statements saying that the IOC Catholicose is well respected by the other Oriental Orthodox hierarchs. I posted links that showed pictures of Jacobite bishops and Catholicose with these hierarchs. Can you produce any?
I want to make clear to the other Orthodox church members in this forum that Indian Orthodox Church hierarchs are never invited to participate in the highest level meetings and joint declarations. To suport my claim, see the press release below detailing the latest ecumenical meeting:
Heads of Oriental Orthodox Churches Conclude their Eighth Meeting, December
9-10, 2005, with a Common Declaration
The Common Declaration signed by their Holinesses, Pope Shenouda III, Patriarch
Mar Ignatius Zakka I and Catholicos Aram I, reaffirmed their unity of faith
based on common doctrinal position and theological teachings and manifested
through Eucharistic communion and other sacraments of the Church.
The three Heads of churches reaffirmed their commitment to the ecumenical
movement both through the World Council of Churches and the Middle East Council
of Churches. In their solidarity and unity of faith, they feel responsible to
strive for the unity of all the churches, in the region and other parts of the
It is with the same spirit that their churches are actively engaged in bilateral
theological dialogues with Orthodox, Catholic, Anglican and Reformed Churches
which will further spell out the authenticity and orthodoxy of the
Christological teachings of the Oriental Orthodox Churches.
Together they called for the preservation of the sacredness and integrity of the
Christian Family, an institution established by God, hence condemning all
practices and behaviors related to marriage and sexual orientation that are not
in accord with biblical and moral teachings.
They reaffirmed the importance of inter-religious dialogue, underlining that
Christian-Muslim Dialogue has been an integral part of the history, civilization
and culture of the Middle East. With the prevailing situation and developments
in the region, this dialogue of life should be enhanced to develop mutual
respect and understanding between Christian and Muslim teachers, scholars and
They appealed to their communities living in different parts of the world to
remain firmly attached to their native lands by supporting initiatives and
actions that promote Peace with justice in the Middle East, highlighting the
role their respective churches have played in this respect. The peace process
must continue they said and UN Security Council resolutions must be implemented
by Israel, and Iraq should regain its independence, integrity and sovereignty.
Only full justice will bring a real, permanent and comprehensive peace in the
Condemning all forms and expressions of violence, Heads of churches stressed
that Religion in its essence is a promoter of love, hope and reconciliation.
They appealed to their churches worldwide to remain faithful to the gospel
committing themselves to give renewed efficiency and vitality to the witness of
The full text of the Common Declaration is posted on the MECC website at:www.mec-churches.org
WHERE WAS MOR DYDIMOS 1?