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« Reply #16517 on: July 10, 2013, 05:06:53 PM » |
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Here in the states people pay to go to public universities. Or in the case of these two schools (and two others in PA), the state government gives money to them, and then the students give them more money but get to attend at a discounted rate.
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In Greece, tertiary education is strictly state-funded and consequently absolutely free (including textbooks). It's our reward for making it through the PTSD-inducing entry exam system.
Same goes for Finland. We have some other fees (~100€) though that we must pay every year in order to be able to continue university studies. They are not called as tuition fees but I guess in practice they are exactly that since they are compulsory. I don't like them but I guess I have nothing to complain as ~100€ is fairly trivial sum for a tuition fee. |
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I don't like them but I guess I have nothing to complain as ~100€ is fairly trivial sum for a tuition fee.
Or British ones. A couple of years ago, when the relevant restrictions were lifted, fees nearly tripled overnight. £9K a year is nothing to magic up out of thin air. How British kids from poor families are supposed to be able to study in a university if tuition fees are that big? There are income-based grants, and scholarships for the really bright ones, but in general I suspect we're going to see a lot more apprenticeships and flexible study schedules, rather than the conventional three years full-time. |
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Which costs are lot of money for the society as the people stay out of labour market for a longer period. I wonder if it would be cheaper in the long run to just cut down tuition fees. Not really. People opt for part-time study so that they can keep working at the same time. Of course, there must be jobs for them, whether during or after their studies, which is another painful story... And they must have well-paid jobs so that the amount of money they produce for the society as a part-time student correlates the amount money that could be saved by people getting faster into labour market as a full-blown professionals and taxpayers. Well now. Apparently I found my inner Scandinavian. I didn't know I was a Socialist.  |
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I was talking to a friend from high school, who's now looking at grad schools. I tried to talk him into trying somewhere in Memphis, but he was reluctant, given the South's reputation for not being terribly gay-friendly. I thought it was odd that he was that focused on a political issue in determining where to move, but it turns out he's been out for like a year and it's just never come up before.
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I was in the process of writing a post on this thread when my power went out. It took about 1.5 seconds for my power to come back on. It then took about 4 minutes for my computer to reboot and my modem to reset. Will my first world problems ever end?
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What? They love gays in New Orleans. In Asheville, NC as well. Pretty much everywhere now it's openly accepted. Those opposed are forcibly shut up. Your friend can go where he wants. Well, he's the one affected here, so I'll let him be the judge. The South isn't what it used to be. Most people aren't going to say anything to him unless he does something really crazy, especially in the bigger cities. Asheville is a good suggestion, very liberally spirited there. In fact, pretty much anywhere in NC that isn't really small. |
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« Reply #16557 on: July 15, 2013, 02:47:59 PM » |
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I was at the end of a contract with my gym, and I found out this morning that they automatically signed me up for an "optional" renewal of my membership. Apparently optional means "if you don't give us 30 days written notice that you want to cancel, we're going to continue charging you". This means I'll be paying for two months that I don't want and won't use. I should have seen this coming.
Gyms are pretty scummy like that. My wife and I had a similar situation. Basically, we just harassed some dude on the phone for a good 2 hours (apparently he was not allowed to hang up) and eventually we got our money back. |
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Just ignore iconotools delusions. He is the biggest multiculturalist globalist there is due to his unfortunate background.
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J Michael
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« Reply #16558 on: July 15, 2013, 03:05:40 PM » |
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I was at the end of a contract with my gym, and I found out this morning that they automatically signed me up for an "optional" renewal of my membership. Apparently optional means "if you don't give us 30 days written notice that you want to cancel, we're going to continue charging you". This means I'll be paying for two months that I don't want and won't use. I should have seen this coming.
Gyms are pretty scummy like that. My wife and I had a similar situation. Basically, we just harassed some dude on the phone for a good 2 hours (apparently he was not allowed to hang up) and eventually we got our money back. That probably burned more calories for you than 2 months of workouts at the gym. Well done! |
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"Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it."
— St. Augustine of Hippo
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celticfan1888
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« Reply #16559 on: July 15, 2013, 07:39:30 PM » |
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Chungking Mansions has more Africans, Arabs, and Pakistanis than Chinese people...
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Forgive my sins.
According to the behaviour of some posters of this forum, I have learned from their example that apparently you are to judge everyone. After you judge them, mock them. Humility is apparently a joke. Because some people are just better people than others, and are more righteous.
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