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« Reply #12915 on: August 15, 2012, 01:48:52 AM »
Sucks being stuck somewhere between Norwegian and American. I was born and spent the first 12 years of my life in Norway, but spent the past 9.5 in America. Should I get American citizenship or keep my Norwegian? Decisions, decisions.

Is dual citizenship forbidden by Norwegian law? I know a Finn who also has a US citizenship so I guess it's allowed by American law.
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« Reply #12916 on: August 15, 2012, 11:51:20 AM »
Sucks being stuck somewhere between Norwegian and American. I was born and spent the first 12 years of my life in Norway, but spent the past 9.5 in America. Should I get American citizenship or keep my Norwegian? Decisions, decisions.

That is a tough one. Which country do you enjoy more, and are you better at English or Norwegian?

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« Reply #12917 on: August 15, 2012, 01:12:21 PM »
Go back to Norway and get out of my country you freeloader!

Just kidding, yeah no dual citizenship eh?
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« Reply #12918 on: August 15, 2012, 03:45:23 PM »
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« Reply #12919 on: August 16, 2012, 12:59:13 AM »
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Sucks being stuck somewhere between Norwegian and American. I was born and spent the first 12 years of my life in Norway, but spent the past 9.5 in America. Should I get American citizenship or keep my Norwegian? Decisions, decisions.

Is dual citizenship forbidden by Norwegian law? I know a Finn who also has a US citizenship so I guess it's allowed by American law.

Go back to Norway and get out of my country you freeloader!

Just kidding, yeah no dual citizenship eh?

Norway does not allow dual citizenship. =/
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« Reply #12920 on: August 16, 2012, 12:59:13 AM »
Sucks being stuck somewhere between Norwegian and American. I was born and spent the first 12 years of my life in Norway, but spent the past 9.5 in America. Should I get American citizenship or keep my Norwegian? Decisions, decisions.

That is a tough one. Which country do you enjoy more, and are you better at English or Norwegian?

I enjoy both, and I am about equally fluent in both. I speak Norwegian better, but write English a little better.

With me getting married and all, I will probably be stuck in the USA anyway, so I might as well be able to vote and run for mayor right? lol
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« Reply #12921 on: August 16, 2012, 02:57:42 AM »
Sucks being stuck somewhere between Norwegian and American. I was born and spent the first 12 years of my life in Norway, but spent the past 9.5 in America. Should I get American citizenship or keep my Norwegian? Decisions, decisions.

That is a tough one. Which country do you enjoy more, and are you better at English or Norwegian?

I enjoy both, and I am about equally fluent in both. I speak Norwegian better, but write English a little better.

With me getting married and all, I will probably be stuck in the USA anyway, so I might as well be able to vote and run for mayor right? lol

While as a fellow Scandinavian ( ;) ) I understand that there must be a strong link between your Norwegian identity and being a citizen of Norway and that it's not an easy decision to discard it especially since you don't live in Norway you could always consider yourself as a Norwegian even if you discarded bureaucratic citizenship of Norway. National identieties are after all about people and their cultures and not about bureaucracy. :)
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« Reply #12922 on: August 16, 2012, 11:44:53 PM »
Sucks being stuck somewhere between Norwegian and American. I was born and spent the first 12 years of my life in Norway, but spent the past 9.5 in America. Should I get American citizenship or keep my Norwegian? Decisions, decisions.

That is a tough one. Which country do you enjoy more, and are you better at English or Norwegian?

I enjoy both, and I am about equally fluent in both. I speak Norwegian better, but write English a little better.

With me getting married and all, I will probably be stuck in the USA anyway, so I might as well be able to vote and run for mayor right? lol

While as a fellow Scandinavian ( ;) ) I understand that there must be a strong link between your Norwegian identity and being a citizen of Norway and that it's not an easy decision to discard it especially since you don't live in Norway you could always consider yourself as a Norwegian even if you discarded bureaucratic citizenship of Norway. National identieties are after all about people and their cultures and not about bureaucracy. :)

That is true, I just worry sometimes on if I will regret it at some point. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. With a US citizenship, it is easier for me to find a job in the States, and I don't have to renew a visa. But, what if my children want to find work in Europe? If I give up my Norwegian citizenship, will they still be able to get it through ancestry? I also find it easier for footballing if I keep my Norwegian (but that isn't as important as my guaranteed professor position). I guess I need to make a pros/cons list.
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« Reply #12923 on: August 17, 2012, 02:46:24 AM »
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« Reply #12924 on: August 17, 2012, 02:53:12 AM »
I also find it easier for footballing if I keep my Norwegian.

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« Reply #12925 on: August 17, 2012, 08:35:04 AM »
Sucks being stuck somewhere between Norwegian and American. I was born and spent the first 12 years of my life in Norway, but spent the past 9.5 in America. Should I get American citizenship or keep my Norwegian? Decisions, decisions.

That is a tough one. Which country do you enjoy more, and are you better at English or Norwegian?

I enjoy both, and I am about equally fluent in both. I speak Norwegian better, but write English a little better.

With me getting married and all, I will probably be stuck in the USA anyway, so I might as well be able to vote and run for mayor right? lol

While as a fellow Scandinavian ( ;) ) I understand that there must be a strong link between your Norwegian identity and being a citizen of Norway and that it's not an easy decision to discard it especially since you don't live in Norway you could always consider yourself as a Norwegian even if you discarded bureaucratic citizenship of Norway. National identieties are after all about people and their cultures and not about bureaucracy. :)

That is true, I just worry sometimes on if I will regret it at some point. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. With a US citizenship, it is easier for me to find a job in the States, and I don't have to renew a visa. But, what if my children want to find work in Europe? If I give up my Norwegian citizenship, will they still be able to get it through ancestry? I also find it easier for footballing if I keep my Norwegian (but that isn't as important as my guaranteed professor position). I guess I need to make a pros/cons list.
A different question. If you DO give it up, hpw easy would it be for you to get it back later?

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« Reply #12926 on: August 17, 2012, 09:25:45 AM »
Norway is the best country in the world (and I am saying that in spite of having Swedish family)! What are the advantages of the US? I dont see any at all. If I were you, I'd return to Norway and get my master's degree for free there. In the US, you always need to pay for everything (education, health care) etc. in addition to taxes, so it sums up to be much more than in Norway. And there are no fjords and fjells.

As for getting married: if you ever have children, the Norwegian day care system just doesnt have an equivalent in the US.

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« Reply #12927 on: August 17, 2012, 10:01:56 AM »
Norway does not allow dual citizenship. =/

They do for children of mixed parents. If one of your parents is an American citizen and the other a Norwegian citizen, I think it should be possible for you to have both.

Norway is the best country in the world (and I am saying that in spite of having Swedish family)!

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« Reply #12928 on: August 18, 2012, 03:36:43 AM »
In the US, you always need to pay for everything (education, health care) etc. in addition to taxes

There's no such thing as free education or health care. We pay for them through relatively high taxes.

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« Reply #12929 on: August 18, 2012, 03:46:16 AM »
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« Reply #12930 on: August 18, 2012, 05:47:21 PM »
Sucks being stuck somewhere between Norwegian and American. I was born and spent the first 12 years of my life in Norway, but spent the past 9.5 in America. Should I get American citizenship or keep my Norwegian? Decisions, decisions.

That is a tough one. Which country do you enjoy more, and are you better at English or Norwegian?

I enjoy both, and I am about equally fluent in both. I speak Norwegian better, but write English a little better.

With me getting married and all, I will probably be stuck in the USA anyway, so I might as well be able to vote and run for mayor right? lol

Perhaps. :D

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« Reply #12931 on: August 18, 2012, 09:36:28 PM »
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« Reply #12932 on: August 18, 2012, 09:40:19 PM »
I made it to post 8,000.

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« Reply #12933 on: August 18, 2012, 10:10:51 PM »
I made it to post 8,000.

Congratulations. :) I haven't even made it to 500 yet. :D

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« Reply #12934 on: August 18, 2012, 10:59:53 PM »
Norway is the best country in the world (and I am saying that in spite of having Swedish family)! What are the advantages of the US? I dont see any at all. If I were you, I'd return to Norway and get my master's degree for free there. In the US, you always need to pay for everything (education, health care) etc. in addition to taxes, so it sums up to be much more than in Norway. And there are no fjords and fjells.

As for getting married: if you ever have children, the Norwegian day care system just doesnt have an equivalent in the US.

But the taxes. O.o
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« Reply #12935 on: August 19, 2012, 12:16:28 AM »
So guys I have a question. Is this animal cruelty? Me and my baby sister are allergic to cats, and our neighbors are crazy cat people whose cats roam all over the neighborhood and reproduce constantly. They are ALWAYS going in our backyard, passing through, crapping on our lawn etc. One time they even ate my pet dove I had out there. My father has told the neighbor about this several times but there is nothing they can really do about it. So, now whenever I see one of their cats in my yard I shoot it with my dad's 1250fps pellet rifle.
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« Reply #12936 on: August 19, 2012, 12:21:19 AM »
I made it to post 8,000.

Congratulations. :) I haven't even made it to 500 yet. :D

Wait until you get to 25,000 posts.  It's like the 400 HR club in baseball of which there are only 49 members (50 if Adam Dunn has reached 400 HRs for he was on 398 HRs).

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« Reply #12937 on: August 19, 2012, 03:07:41 PM »
So guys I have a question. Is this animal cruelty? Me and my baby sister are allergic to cats, and our neighbors are crazy cat people whose cats roam all over the neighborhood and reproduce constantly. They are ALWAYS going in our backyard, passing through, crapping on our lawn etc. One time they even ate my pet dove I had out there. My father has told the neighbor about this several times but there is nothing they can really do about it. So, now whenever I see one of their cats in my yard I shoot it with my dad's 1250fps pellet rifle.

Do you try to kill it or just wound it?  IMHO wounding severely would be cruel.  A couple pumps on a small rifle and a quick shot to the bum won't cause lasting damage and is more a warning than anything else, so not really cruel.  Likewise, killing quick and painlessly isn't what I would consider cruel either, unless you consider using mousetraps or exterminating cockroaches to be cruel as well.  Pests are pests.

Personally, I am a cat-liker so would only shoot one if it was terrorizing an animal I wanted around.  Since one ate your dove, I can see where you'd consider then pests.
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« Reply #12938 on: August 19, 2012, 03:08:38 PM »
Vamrat has officially met a Bishop for the first time ever.  Many thanks to Bishop Basil of the Antiochian church for his visit and for his blessing!
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« Reply #12939 on: August 19, 2012, 04:27:05 PM »
So guys I have a question. Is this animal cruelty? Me and my baby sister are allergic to cats, and our neighbors are crazy cat people whose cats roam all over the neighborhood and reproduce constantly. They are ALWAYS going in our backyard, passing through, crapping on our lawn etc. One time they even ate my pet dove I had out there. My father has told the neighbor about this several times but there is nothing they can really do about it. So, now whenever I see one of their cats in my yard I shoot it with my dad's 1250fps pellet rifle.

Do you try to kill it or just wound it?  IMHO wounding severely would be cruel.  A couple pumps on a small rifle and a quick shot to the bum won't cause lasting damage and is more a warning than anything else, so not really cruel.  Likewise, killing quick and painlessly isn't what I would consider cruel either, unless you consider using mousetraps or exterminating cockroaches to be cruel as well.  Pests are pests.

Personally, I am a cat-liker so would only shoot one if it was terrorizing an animal I wanted around.  Since one ate your dove, I can see where you'd consider then pests.

To be honest, I usually shoot to kill, since 1250fps is a pretty powerful gun for a cat and leaving it wounded would probably be cruel and leave it to die a slow painful death.
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« Reply #12940 on: August 19, 2012, 04:44:11 PM »
So guys I have a question. Is this animal cruelty? Me and my baby sister are allergic to cats, and our neighbors are crazy cat people whose cats roam all over the neighborhood and reproduce constantly. They are ALWAYS going in our backyard, passing through, crapping on our lawn etc. One time they even ate my pet dove I had out there. My father has told the neighbor about this several times but there is nothing they can really do about it. So, now whenever I see one of their cats in my yard I shoot it with my dad's 1250fps pellet rifle.

Do you try to kill it or just wound it?  IMHO wounding severely would be cruel.  A couple pumps on a small rifle and a quick shot to the bum won't cause lasting damage and is more a warning than anything else, so not really cruel.  Likewise, killing quick and painlessly isn't what I would consider cruel either, unless you consider using mousetraps or exterminating cockroaches to be cruel as well.  Pests are pests.

Personally, I am a cat-liker so would only shoot one if it was terrorizing an animal I wanted around.  Since one ate your dove, I can see where you'd consider then pests.

To be honest, I usually shoot to kill, since 1250fps is a pretty powerful gun for a cat and leaving it wounded would probably be cruel and leave it to die a slow painful death.
Is what you're doing legal where you are? On the one hand, I hope it's not, but on the other, at least I'll know you're not going to be arrested for that.

It seems to me that your neighbours are the ones practising animal cruelty. The authorities around here would definitely be paying a visit to a house with an excessive number of animals of any kind. Have you been in touch with your local SPCA (or equivalent)? (I hate having to recommend that as those organizations have a nazi-esque reputation.)

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« Reply #12941 on: August 20, 2012, 06:04:00 AM »
Vamrat has officially met a Bishop for the first time ever. Vamrat has officially changed jurisdiction because of that.

Fixed.

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« Reply #12942 on: August 20, 2012, 09:12:03 AM »
Vamrat has officially met a Bishop for the first time ever. Vamrat has officially changed jurisdiction because of that.

Fixed.

Lol, no.  I still like the Serbian church just fine.  I kinda wish I knew what our Bishop looked like, but alas.
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« Reply #12943 on: August 20, 2012, 05:42:33 PM »
They do for children of mixed parents. If one of your parents is an American citizen and the other a Norwegian citizen, I think it should be possible for you to have both.

My mother has Danish and US citizenship, so I guess I can.
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« Reply #12944 on: August 20, 2012, 06:53:42 PM »
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« Reply #12945 on: August 20, 2012, 08:35:49 PM »
There are too many TV shows on too many cable networks to memorize for Trivia.

Just last week, I recognized Dance Moms and I don't have cable TV.

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« Reply #12946 on: August 20, 2012, 08:37:09 PM »
I now have my own apartment.

Sounds good (I think)! :.)

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« Reply #12947 on: August 21, 2012, 01:50:24 AM »
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« Reply #12948 on: August 21, 2012, 11:34:51 AM »
"It’s truly hilarious in a macabre sort of way to see atheists casting themselves in the role of freedom fighters for humanity and world saviours. These are people who say that existence is meaningless; that human consciousness and sense of self as well as free will are all illusions. That the Principle of Causality is false and that people have resulted from random accidents and are nothing more than jiggling bags of mindless chemicals with absolutely no OBJECTIVE morality to guide them.. And yet atheists see themselves as champions of morality on behalf of humanity! All this would be funny if it weren’t so tragic."

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« Reply #12949 on: August 21, 2012, 03:36:36 PM »
So I bought Syrian coffee (Haseeb coffee) today but I have no idea about Syrian coffee culture and most of the texts on the package are in Arabic. I had my first cup with one spoonful of coffee with maybe three decalitres of water and figured out that the taste should be a lot stronger. What is the correct ratio between water and coffee?
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« Reply #12950 on: August 22, 2012, 01:06:17 AM »
*Sigh* So I developed my next teenage boy puppy-dog love celebrity crush <3  :D Anne Vyalitsyna <3 Apparently this young Soviet starlet is also Orthodox.
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« Reply #12951 on: August 23, 2012, 01:54:13 PM »
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« Reply #12952 on: August 23, 2012, 07:28:24 PM »
From the world of the weird:

Cobra Dies after Bite from a Man:

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« Reply #12953 on: August 23, 2012, 07:31:38 PM »
From the world of the weird:

Cobra Dies after Bite from a Man:

http://news.yahoo.com/man-bites-snake-death-revenge-154835399.html

Was the snake insured, or is it's family left without support?

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« Reply #12954 on: August 23, 2012, 09:48:33 PM »
So one of my uncle's places in Kentucky is awesome. He got the old lot in the middle of Breathitt County where the shack he grew up in was and built a seriously nice house there. Big with classy columns and stuff with mostly trailers around it. But his back yard is like redneck paradise. Bud Light cans used as shooting targets, a huge shed of weapons, ammo, and non-alcoholic targets, lots of old lawncare and gardening equipment, cinder blocks with no discernable purpose, the works. And it's all lurking just behind this really classy house. It's great.
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« Reply #12955 on: August 23, 2012, 10:04:37 PM »
As I lay on my couch a moment ago, open book sprawling across my face as I inhaled the old-book-smell goodness, I wished that they would come out with a spray with that scent. For my room to smell like a library filled with old books... what a glorious day that would be!
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« Reply #12956 on: August 24, 2012, 02:58:19 PM »
This was definitely one of least favorite days.  I left my apartment an hour before class (living only about 3.5 miles, it should only take maybe 10 minutes to get to ASU)...then, I passed by the university not realizing that I was doing so...then, when turning left, I saw a "Do not enter" sign on the street, thinking it applied to the lane I was about to turn into, and to avoid going the wrong way down a fairly major road, I wound up sitting for five minutes on light rail tracks (not meant to be sat upon) before I could turn, then started to turn into what I thought was a visitor parking structure, but was really a permit-only parking structure and had to back out back onto the road (took about 7 minutes for it to be clear of traffic), then got the bright idea to put a particular building I knew the location of (which is near a visitor parking structure) into my phone, so that I'd have some idea of where on campus I was, and Google Navigate decided I wanted to go 73 miles into the desert (thankfully it took me only about 15 minutes of driving on the highway before I realized there was no possible way I was going anywhere near the right way...and looked at my phone to discover where exactly I was headed, it only took another four minutes or so to get off the highway, so that I could turn around).  In total, I nearly caused five car accidents, was at great risk of being hit by a monorail, almost ran over two pedestrians and one guy on a bike, and was thirty minutes late to an hour and forty-five minute class.
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« Reply #12957 on: August 24, 2012, 02:58:19 PM »
So one of my uncle's places in Kentucky is awesome. He got the old lot in the middle of Breathitt County where the shack he grew up in was and built a seriously nice house there. Big with classy columns and stuff with mostly trailers around it. But his back yard is like redneck paradise. Bud Light cans used as shooting targets, a huge shed of weapons, ammo, and non-alcoholic targets, lots of old lawncare and gardening equipment, cinder blocks with no discernable purpose, the works. And it's all lurking just behind this really classy house. It's great.

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« Reply #12958 on: August 24, 2012, 03:38:57 PM »
This was definitely one of least favorite days.  I left my apartment an hour before class (living only about 3.5 miles, it should only take maybe 10 minutes to get to ASU)...then, I passed by the university not realizing that I was doing so...then, when turning left, I saw a "Do not enter" sign on the street, thinking it applied to the lane I was about to turn into, and to avoid going the wrong way down a fairly major road, I wound up sitting for five minutes on light rail tracks (not meant to be sat upon) before I could turn, then started to turn into what I thought was a visitor parking structure, but was really a permit-only parking structure and had to back out back onto the road (took about 7 minutes for it to be clear of traffic), then got the bright idea to put a particular building I knew the location of (which is near a visitor parking structure) into my phone, so that I'd have some idea of where on campus I was, and Google Navigate decided I wanted to go 73 miles into the desert (thankfully it took me only about 15 minutes of driving on the highway before I realized there was no possible way I was going anywhere near the right way...and looked at my phone to discover where exactly I was headed, it only took another four minutes or so to get off the highway, so that I could turn around).  In total, I nearly caused five car accidents, was at great risk of being hit by a monorail, almost ran over two pedestrians and one guy on a bike, and was thirty minutes late to an hour and forty-five minute class.

Oh, wow.... What a day! I'm so sorry. That's craziness!
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #12959 on: August 24, 2012, 04:07:22 PM »
So one of my uncle's places in Kentucky is awesome. He got the old lot in the middle of Breathitt County where the shack he grew up in was and built a seriously nice house there. Big with classy columns and stuff with mostly trailers around it. But his back yard is like redneck paradise. Bud Light cans used as shooting targets, a huge shed of weapons, ammo, and non-alcoholic targets, lots of old lawncare and gardening equipment, cinder blocks with no discernable purpose, the works. And it's all lurking just behind this really classy house. It's great.

I remember going to Elizabeth Town, KY one of Te most gorgeous places I've been.

If it has "Elizabeth" in it's name, it has to be a cool place!  (...totally unbiased opinion coming from an Elizabeth)  ;D

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