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« Reply #27540 on: October 16, 2017, 11:55:07 AM »
Thank you.
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« Reply #27541 on: October 16, 2017, 12:31:52 PM »
“He who sings prays twice.” —unknown
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« Reply #27542 on: October 16, 2017, 01:55:03 PM »
My Mom came to liturgy today, to hear me sing in the choir. I was so proud!

Nice...how's it going so far?

The robe's a bit sweaty, and I wound up on the wrong page in the music book a couple times. Other than that, not bad. :)

I'm so glad to hear your mother came to hear you sing!  I am glad to hear you are enjoying the choir...even if they make you wear robes. 
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« Reply #27543 on: October 16, 2017, 01:59:06 PM »
Furat day in The fatherland in a suffocating train, someone tries to open a window only to be sternly rebuffed by an old woman: "Shut it back, don't you feel how strong the draft is"
She hears, upon that water without sound,
A voice that cries, “The tomb in Palestine
Is not the porch of spirits lingering.
It is the grave of Jesus, where he lay.”
We live in an old chaos of the sun,
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Or island solitude, unsponsored, free,
Of that wide water, inescapable.

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« Reply #27544 on: October 16, 2017, 09:02:20 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbo#Development_and_character_profile

Peter Falk's Columbo always reminded me Porfiry Petrovich of Crime and Punishment, now wikipedia confirmed my hunch.  Supposedly he is influenced by Father Brown (of the Father Brown stories) as well, which makes sense.  I always thought if you could translate a Dostoevsky novel into a good movie it would either be Crime and Punishment or Demons.  The Crime and Punishment largely would translate because of the Porfiry Petrovich character, who sadly could not be portrayed by the great Peter Falk anymore...maybe he was such a perfect choice"for an American language Crime and Punishment no attempts ought be made to make that movie for the foreseeable future.
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« Reply #27546 on: October 18, 2017, 11:15:19 AM »
I want to make a Morpheus meme that says, "What if I told you memeing is virtue signaling?"
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« Reply #27547 on: October 18, 2017, 08:19:15 PM »
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« Reply #27548 on: October 19, 2017, 06:30:04 AM »


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« Reply #27549 on: October 19, 2017, 06:38:14 AM »
Yesterday I was sitting on a table in the corridor of the Christian Theological Academy, reading my work in Arabic and waiting for the lesso of History of the Church. I noticed that there was passing a man wearing a cassock, but it's not so strange in this place ;) so I continued checking my essay. But I heard I welcome you, miss Dominika! (in Polish we use politle forms; well, some priests use the form "you", toward me). I wanted to reply by "Good morning" or "Glory be to Jesus Christ", but I noticed that's.. Archbishop George.

So I jumped from the table, half of my papers and a notebok landed on the floor, so I said I'm sorry, the archbishop said No, that's me saying sorry. I kissed his hand, or in fact, not enterly, because I'd used lipstick :P And he asked me smiling So, how are you? Everything is fine? I replied Yes, everything is OK, and he said in Church Slavonic So, glory be to God, glory be to God!.
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« Reply #27550 on: October 19, 2017, 07:46:50 AM »
Hey Asteriktos, I didn't want to post this in your Modern Fathers quotes thread, but can you help me find the writing of Fr. Schmemann where he says "Academic theology is false." I want to understand what he means in its context. Maybe it was a spoken off the cuff remark. Thanks.
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« Reply #27551 on: October 19, 2017, 12:18:15 PM »
I've just made my first successful attempt of ice cream texture after years (interruptly) trying, and it was completely random. I gave up on the traditional recipes and instead just grinded calf's foot jelly, milk cream and corn starch together, heated the mix and repeatedly freezed and regrinded it.
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« Reply #27552 on: October 19, 2017, 12:36:40 PM »
The moderated forums are now in alphabetical order, but the general and foreign language forums are not. What is the significance of this? The world needs answers...

Some invisible stuff the admin team is working on. The alphabetizing was a byproduct.
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« Reply #27553 on: October 19, 2017, 02:32:38 PM »
I in should go to sauna more often. You wouldn't believe how being naked in a 100°C (212°F) hot sweaty room cures all your problems.
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« Reply #27554 on: October 19, 2017, 05:55:59 PM »
I in should go to sauna more often. You wouldn't believe how being naked in a 100°C (212°F) hot sweaty room cures all your problems.
There's only one kind of sauna where men can be naked here...
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« Reply #27555 on: October 19, 2017, 08:36:28 PM »
I haven't been to a sauna in a while.
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« Reply #27556 on: October 20, 2017, 12:06:24 AM »
I in should go to sauna more often. You wouldn't believe how being naked in a 100°C (212°F) hot sweaty room cures all your problems.
There's only one kind of sauna where men can be naked here...

The gay kind? I heard that "Finnish sauna" is an euphemism to gay club in Croatia. I wonder how many tourists have ended there with out realizing it.

I haven't been to a sauna in a while.

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« Reply #27557 on: October 20, 2017, 12:42:18 AM »
The moderated forums are now in alphabetical order, but the general and foreign language forums are not. What is the significance of this? The world needs answers...

Some invisible stuff the admin team is working on. The alphabetizing was a byproduct.

Well I didn't actually expect a response  :laugh: Thanks though!

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« Reply #27558 on: October 20, 2017, 12:57:10 AM »
Hey Asteriktos, I didn't want to post this in your Modern Fathers quotes thread, but can you help me find the writing of Fr. Schmemann where he says "Academic theology is false." I want to understand what he means in its context. Maybe it was a spoken off the cuff remark. Thanks.

I couldn't find a document with that exact phrase--except on a couple dozen sites which only list quotes without giving sources.
I did find this though, fwiw:

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But to achieve this, we must give some thought to that which, at least in my opinion, constitutes the basic defect of our theology: its almost total divorce from the real life of the Church and from her practical needs. By his very upbringing and training, the theologian is used to looking at everything "practical" as virtually opposed to theology and its lofty pursuits, and this attitude has been adopted for so many centuries that it is almost taken for granted. Since the breakdown of the patristic age, our theology (and not without Western influence) has become exclusively "academic" -- "scholastic" in the literal sense of the word. It is confined to a narrow circle of professional intellectuals, writing and working, in fact, for each other (who else reads theology, or, even if he wished to, is capable of reading its highly professional and esoteric language?) and, as time goes by, more and more anxious to satisfy and please their peers in other academic disciplines, rather than the less and less theologically-minded Church.

They are reconciled to the supreme indifference of the Church at large to their work because, in their unshakable self-righteousness, they put the blame on the anti-intellectualism of the clergy and laity. What they do not seem to realize, however, is that this "anti-intellectualism" is in a way a direct result of their own exclusive "intellectualism," of their quasi-manichean contempt for the "practical" needs of the Church, for their reduction of theology to a harmless intellectual game of "interesting points of view" and scientifically impeccable footnotes. And the sad irony of the situation is that, ignored by the Church, they are not truly accepted by the so-called "intellectual community" either, for which, in spite of all their efforts ad captatiam benevolentiae, they remain non-objective and non-scientific "mystics." And as long as such is the state and the inner orientation of our theology, the hope that it will fulfill its pastoral function and respond to the crying needs of our situation is, of course, vain.

But it is at this point, maybe, that we can turn our eyes to those whom we always claim to be our examples and teachers, the Holy Fathers of the Church, and look a little deeper into their understanding of theological task. Most certainly they were not less intellectual. And yet, there is one decisive difference between them and the modern theological scholars. To all of them that which we call "practical" and virtually exclude from our academic concerns meant nothing else but the unique and indeed very practical concern of Christianity: the eternal salvation of man. Words and ideas were for them directly related not simply to Truth and Error, but to the Truth that saves and to the error that brings with it death and damnation.

And it is their constant, truly "existential" preoccupation with, and their total commitment to, salvation of real, concrete men that makes every line they wrote so ultimately serious and their theology so vital and so precisely pastoral. Intellectual as it is, their theology is always addressed not to "intellectuals," but to the whole Church, in the firm belief that everyone in the Church has received the Spirit of Truth and was made a "theologian" -- i.e., a man concerned with God. And the lasting truth of their theology is that in it ideas are always referred to the "practical" needs of the Church, revealed in their soteriological significance, whereas the most "practical" aspects of the Church are rooted in their ultimate theological implications.

-- The Task of Orthodox Theology in America Today

The closest to the phrase comes near the end of it: "It must be admitted that much too often our official "academic" theology has failed to accept this "obedience" and preferred quiet complacency."

Perhaps someone more familiar with Fr. Alexander knows of an exact location (or can at least confirm that it exists somewhere)...
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« Reply #27559 on: October 20, 2017, 06:02:46 PM »
I in should go to sauna more often. You wouldn't believe how being naked in a 100°C (212°F) hot sweaty room cures all your problems.
There's only one kind of sauna where men can be naked here...

The gay kind? I heard that "Finnish sauna" is an euphemism to gay club in Croatia. I wonder how many tourists have ended there with out realizing it.

I haven't been to a sauna in a while.

Hasten therefore to do the work of God.

I've been to Korean saunas and they're great.  Nudity, no gayness.  Even has a cafe where you can get beer.
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« Reply #27560 on: October 20, 2017, 06:03:25 PM »
Well, clothing is required in the cafe area.
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« Reply #27561 on: October 21, 2017, 04:24:16 PM »
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« Reply #27562 on: October 22, 2017, 04:12:54 PM »
You guys look like a couple of jabronis on meatfare Sunday.

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« Reply #27563 on: October 22, 2017, 08:57:15 PM »
Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth.
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« Reply #27564 on: October 23, 2017, 10:34:09 AM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
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« Reply #27565 on: October 23, 2017, 10:40:03 AM »
I've been to Korean saunas and they're great.  Nudity, no gayness.  Even has a cafe where you can get beer.

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« Reply #27566 on: October 23, 2017, 08:36:32 PM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
It seems Leontius is "as a lion", while Leonidas is "son of a lion".
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« Reply #27567 on: October 23, 2017, 08:40:01 PM »
I've been to Korean saunas and they're great.  Nudity, no gayness.  Even has a cafe where you can get beer.

Paradise on Earth.

The best part?  You don't have to talk to anyone.  I know that makes you Finns all hot and bothered.
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« Reply #27568 on: October 23, 2017, 09:02:09 PM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
It seems Leontius is "as a lion", while Leonidas is "son of a lion".

I thought they were different names, but I stumbled upon this from the OCA:

https://oca.org/saints/lives?q=LEONTIUS
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« Reply #27569 on: October 24, 2017, 12:15:56 AM »
I've been to Korean saunas and they're great.  Nudity, no gayness.  Even has a cafe where you can get beer.

Paradise on Earth.

The best part?  You don't have to talk to anyone.  I know that makes you Finns all hot and bothered.

If I ever move abroad I move to Korea. Preferably South but North will do too if they have saunas where I can go to drink beer and be quiet.
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« Reply #27570 on: October 24, 2017, 12:28:52 AM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
Jacob and James are different names. Where did you get that they're the same names?
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« Reply #27571 on: October 24, 2017, 01:27:14 AM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
It seems Leontius is "as a lion", while Leonidas is "son of a lion".

I thought they were different names, but I stumbled upon this from the OCA:

https://oca.org/saints/lives?q=LEONTIUS
ISTM to be search engine approximation
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« Reply #27572 on: October 24, 2017, 03:19:29 AM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
Jacob and James are different names. Where did you get that they're the same names?

I can bet all the alcohol you have or seek to have for the rest of your life they're the same name.
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« Reply #27573 on: October 24, 2017, 05:35:12 AM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
Jacob and James are different names. Where did you get that they're the same names?

I can bet all the alcohol you have or seek to have for the rest of your life they're the same name.

Then mcarmichael will be swimming in the stuff. The names are NOT the same. They only share the root Leo-. Your assertion is like saying John is the same name as Jonathan. They are not.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #27574 on: October 24, 2017, 05:43:47 AM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
Jacob and James are different names. Where did you get that they're the same names?

I can bet all the alcohol you have or seek to have for the rest of your life they're the same name.

Then mcarmichael will be swimming in the stuff. The names are NOT the same. They only share the root Leo-. Your assertion is like saying John is the same name as Jonathan. They are not.

LBK, he is saying Jacob and James are different names.  I'm not talking about Leontius and Leonides anymore.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #27575 on: October 24, 2017, 11:53:00 AM »
Portuguese diverges even more by having Tiago and Jacó as doublets of the same name. The incursion of Italian names makes some like Pietro, Pedro or Joana and Giovanna, or worse, Henrique and Enzo. Some crazy parents even mix both (I've met Petro and Jovana).
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« Reply #27576 on: October 24, 2017, 12:42:59 PM »
Portuguese diverges even more by having Tiago and Jacó as doublets of the same name. The incursion of Italian names makes some like Pietro, Pedro or Joana and Giovanna, or worse, Henrique and Enzo. Some crazy parents even mix both (I've met Petro and Jovana).


Really...you don't want to start the 'wacky brazilian first names' talk do you now? 


 
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« Reply #27577 on: October 24, 2017, 12:58:17 PM »
Really...you don't want to start the 'wacky brazilian first names' talk do you now?
Those are only first level wacky, there are many deeper layers, as you know. I'm not a great example myself, as my surname means "big shirt", but that's not my parents' fault, rather some XVI century guy who decided to be called that way.  :P
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« Reply #27578 on: October 24, 2017, 01:02:37 PM »
Really...you don't want to start the 'wacky brazilian first names' talk do you now?
Those are only first level wacky, there are many deeper layers, as you know. I'm not a great example myself, as my surname means "big shirt", but that's not my parents' fault, rather some XVI century guy who decided to be called that way.  :P


indeed....I was once acquainted with a guy with the first name of Lindenberg....which is at least still a name...but it sounds very funny in most Brazilian accents...so now I always have this odd mental way of hearing the REAL name.....
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #27579 on: October 24, 2017, 01:06:41 PM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
Jacob and James are different names. Where did you get that they're the same names?

I can bet all the alcohol you have or seek to have for the rest of your life they're the same name.

Then mcarmichael will be swimming in the stuff. The names are NOT the same. They only share the root Leo-. Your assertion is like saying John is the same name as Jonathan. They are not.

LBK, he is saying Jacob and James are different names.  I'm not talking about Leontius and Leonides anymore.

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« Reply #27580 on: October 24, 2017, 07:02:12 PM »
Is Leontius and Leonidas the same name?  Like James and Jacob?
Jacob and James are different names. Where did you get that they're the same names?

I can bet all the alcohol you have or seek to have for the rest of your life they're the same name.

How strange. I never would have put the two together, but there is an article from The Economist (https://www.economist.com/blogs/johnson/2010/09/name_equivalents) that backs your claim.

All that being said, though, I don't know any Jacob's who go by James, or vice-versa. It isn't like Bob and Robert, where they can be used interchangeably.
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« Reply #27581 on: October 24, 2017, 07:33:38 PM »
I wonder if in heaven St. John Chrysostom ever regrets his choice of words. "Why do they keep interpreting what I said like that? That's not at all what I meant! You'd think after all this time they'd catch on..."

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« Reply #27582 on: October 24, 2017, 07:38:07 PM »
I wonder if in heaven St. John Chrysostom ever regrets his choice of words. "Why do they keep interpreting what I said like that? That's not at all what I meant! You'd think after all this time they'd catch on..."

I'm sure we'll all eat some of our words, someday.
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« Reply #27583 on: October 24, 2017, 09:00:33 PM »
I've been to Korean saunas and they're great.  Nudity, no gayness.  Even has a cafe where you can get beer.

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The best part?  You don't have to talk to anyone.  I know that makes you Finns all hot and bothered.

If I ever move abroad I move to Korea. Preferably South but North will do too if they have saunas where I can go to drink beer and be quiet.

They do, but you have to be part of the in-crowd, living in Pyongyang.  You are the wrong ethnicity.  Besides, don't all Finns have a sauna at their house and good beer?
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Thanks Asteriktos for the Modern Church Fathers quotes, they resonate far greater to me than the classics...
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