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« Reply #9045 on: March 14, 2011, 01:48:57 PM »

I think that I have the strangest taste in music...but then again, doesn't everyone else think that?
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« Reply #9046 on: March 14, 2011, 01:50:15 PM »

I think that I have the strangest taste in music...but then again, doesn't everyone else think that?

Not me!  I'm totally perfect!   Shocked Grin Wink Cheesy
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« Reply #9047 on: March 14, 2011, 01:51:56 PM »

Proof or it isn't true!  Grin
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« Reply #9048 on: March 14, 2011, 01:55:12 PM »

I think that I have the strangest taste in music...but then again, doesn't everyone else think that?
I'll go ahead and agree.  I think you have the strangest taste in music!
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« Reply #9049 on: March 14, 2011, 02:08:24 PM »

And how would you know that, sir?!
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« Reply #9050 on: March 14, 2011, 02:13:30 PM »

I'm being agreeable!  Why do I get in trouble for this kind of thing!?
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« Reply #9051 on: March 14, 2011, 02:22:40 PM »

Hey, I just wanted to make sure that you aren't the guy who lives across the street and sits on his front stoop, staring into my home office window!  Cheesy I'm sure he's pretty familiar with my taste in music!
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« Reply #9052 on: March 14, 2011, 02:30:46 PM »

Nah, I don't think I'm that guy.  I don't have a front stoop, I live in a third-floor apartment, and there's really no one across the street from me.
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« Reply #9053 on: March 14, 2011, 02:36:39 PM »

Oh, plus I'm not that creepy.  In fact I'm not creepy at all.
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« Reply #9054 on: March 14, 2011, 02:49:55 PM »

I'm sure you're not....although how can I believe your description? The man looks just like your avatar!

(Kidding.  Grin )
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« Reply #9055 on: March 14, 2011, 03:21:55 PM »

Do you two know each other?   Wink Cheesy
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« Reply #9056 on: March 14, 2011, 03:32:20 PM »

Well, I don't know....the guy across the street went into his house about half an hour ago. The evidence is building up against you, chrevbel!  police

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« Reply #9057 on: March 14, 2011, 04:08:36 PM »

What's a starbuck?  Huh

Intergalactic currency.

Did it replace the spacebucks that we find out about in Spaceballs?

Indeed!  The former currency kept inflating.
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« Reply #9058 on: March 14, 2011, 09:13:42 PM »

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« Reply #9059 on: March 14, 2011, 09:49:29 PM »

Do you two know each other?   Wink Cheesy

You talkin' to me?  Are you talkin' to me?
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This should be in the picture of the day thread.
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« Reply #9061 on: March 15, 2011, 03:16:36 AM »

I suppose now I must confess the sin of having had too much fun tonight. I won my Toastmasters club's annual speech evaluation contest.
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« Reply #9062 on: March 15, 2011, 03:18:49 AM »


This should be in the picture of the day thread.
My, what a cute baby! Smiley (That is, if you think frog babies cute)
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« Reply #9063 on: March 15, 2011, 03:20:50 AM »

I suppose now I must confess the sin of having had too much fun tonight. I won my Toastmasters club's annual speech evaluation contest.

Congrats! Smiley
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« Reply #9064 on: March 15, 2011, 03:23:56 AM »

I suppose now I must confess the sin of having had too much fun tonight. I won my Toastmasters club's annual speech evaluation contest.

Congrats! Smiley
Thanks. Smiley

Next up: the area contest on April 6. That's as far as I go, though. The division contest is on Holy Thursday, so whomever I beat in the area contest will have to go to division in my stead.
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« Reply #9065 on: March 15, 2011, 10:25:36 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back
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« Reply #9066 on: March 15, 2011, 11:33:24 AM »

Hey, I'm a female who ate tofu recently...and I HATE The Bachelor and Say Yes to the Dress!

(I do have a weakness for What Not To Wear, Gilmore Girls, and Mad Men though....my chick show weaknesses)
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« Reply #9067 on: March 15, 2011, 04:24:08 PM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...
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« Reply #9068 on: March 15, 2011, 04:24:35 PM »

Hey, I'm a female who ate tofu recently...and I HATE The Bachelor and Say Yes to the Dress!

(I do have a weakness for What Not To Wear, Gilmore Girls, and Mad Men though....my chick show weaknesses)

Hey, so you ate some? Did you try baking it again? Wink
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« Reply #9069 on: March 15, 2011, 05:01:28 PM »

No, just miso soup!

I am going to a Chinese restaurant with my friend this weekend and I will order some there before I spend money on tofu and try to cook it again. One more chance, tofu! One more chance.

 Cheesy

I heard that tempeh is NASTY though. (shrugs)


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« Reply #9070 on: March 15, 2011, 05:03:09 PM »

No, just miso soup!

I am going to a Chinese restaurant with my friend this weekend and I will order some there before I spend money on tofu and try to cook it again. One more chance, tofu! One more chance.

 Cheesy

I heard that tempeh is NASTY though. (shrugs)


from what i've read, seitan is MUCH better...  Smiley
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« Reply #9071 on: March 15, 2011, 07:07:44 PM »

Paronychia. I hate that word. I hate it even more when my doctor says it as he's examining me. Humbug!
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« Reply #9072 on: March 16, 2011, 03:31:47 AM »

I suppose now I must confess the sin of having had too much fun tonight. I won my Toastmasters club's annual speech evaluation contest.

I think you should have a hard look at how you define "fun".
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« Reply #9073 on: March 16, 2011, 03:34:00 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

You do like to repeat yourself. The line was bad the first time. Worrying about what a soybean might do your manhood speaks more about your masculinity than watching marathons of America's Top Model on Sunday.

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« Reply #9074 on: March 16, 2011, 03:35:24 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Many people on the planet prove Marc wrong. You will be fine.
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« Reply #9075 on: March 16, 2011, 03:36:53 AM »

seitan is MUCH better...  Smiley

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« Reply #9076 on: March 16, 2011, 09:55:51 AM »

seitan is MUCH better...  Smiley

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« Reply #9077 on: March 16, 2011, 10:17:12 AM »

seitan is MUCH better...  Smiley

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« Reply #9078 on: March 16, 2011, 10:20:42 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html
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« Reply #9079 on: March 16, 2011, 10:22:00 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.
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« Reply #9080 on: March 16, 2011, 10:42:09 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.

Yet another ad hominem remark...  Says a lot.

People can simply read the articles, weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.

Btw...These articles were not written by Dr. Price. Contributors to this site vary widely but most are highly credentialed. For example Dr. Mary Enig
is a regular contributor. She is best known for her work that proved Trans-Fats ( Artificial Fat made from vegetable oils) are harmful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_G._Enig
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« Reply #9081 on: March 16, 2011, 10:58:12 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.

Yet another ad hominem remark...  Says a lot.

People can simply read the articles, weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.

Btw...These articles were not written by Dr. Price. Contributors to this site vary widely but most are highly credentialed. For example Dr. Mary Enig
is a regular contributor. She is best known for her work that proved Trans-Fats ( Artificial Fat made from vegetable oils) are harmful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_G._Enig

Yeah and Creation Scientists can drum out some physicists to back their agenda as well.

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« Reply #9082 on: March 16, 2011, 11:09:58 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.

Yet another ad hominem remark...  Says a lot.

People can simply read the articles, weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.

Btw...These articles were not written by Dr. Price. Contributors to this site vary widely but most are highly credentialed. For example Dr. Mary Enig
is a regular contributor. She is best known for her work that proved Trans-Fats ( Artificial Fat made from vegetable oils) are harmful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_G._Enig

Yeah and Creation Scientists can drum out some physicists to back their agenda as well.

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Wow..All I hear from you are pot shots and fuzzy metaphors.
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« Reply #9083 on: March 16, 2011, 11:15:13 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.

Yet another ad hominem remark...  Says a lot.

People can simply read the articles, weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.

Btw...These articles were not written by Dr. Price. Contributors to this site vary widely but most are highly credentialed. For example Dr. Mary Enig
is a regular contributor. She is best known for her work that proved Trans-Fats ( Artificial Fat made from vegetable oils) are harmful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_G._Enig

Yeah and Creation Scientists can drum out some physicists to back their agenda as well.

pubmed > internet cultery

Wow..All I hear from you are pot shots and fuzzy metaphors.

You just offer internet guruism. Real peer reviewed research, please. (There is little consensus, to save you the time.) I've already provided links to places you can go where these things are studied in detail.

How the Holy Fathers got by without your new "insights" into diet, I'll never know.

And an ad hominem is not a fallacy always btw.

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« Reply #9084 on: March 16, 2011, 11:34:08 AM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.

Yet another ad hominem remark...  Says a lot.

People can simply read the articles, weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.

Btw...These articles were not written by Dr. Price. Contributors to this site vary widely but most are highly credentialed. For example Dr. Mary Enig
is a regular contributor. She is best known for her work that proved Trans-Fats ( Artificial Fat made from vegetable oils) are harmful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_G._Enig

Yeah and Creation Scientists can drum out some physicists to back their agenda as well.

pubmed > internet cultery

Wow..All I hear from you are pot shots and fuzzy metaphors.

You just offer internet guruism. Real peer reviewed research, please. (There is little consensus, to save you the time.) I've already provided links to places you can go where these things are studied in detail.

How the Holy Fathers got by without your new "insights" into diet, I'll never know.

And an ad hominem is not a fallacy always btw.



Are you speaking about the Euthyphro Dillema?  http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/christian-ethics/divine-command-theory/the-euthyphro-dilemma/
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« Reply #9085 on: March 16, 2011, 12:44:02 PM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.

Yet another ad hominem remark...  Says a lot.

People can simply read the articles, weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.

Btw...These articles were not written by Dr. Price. Contributors to this site vary widely but most are highly credentialed. For example Dr. Mary Enig
is a regular contributor. She is best known for her work that proved Trans-Fats ( Artificial Fat made from vegetable oils) are harmful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_G._Enig

Yeah and Creation Scientists can drum out some physicists to back their agenda as well.

pubmed > internet cultery

Wow..All I hear from you are pot shots and fuzzy metaphors.

You just offer internet guruism. Real peer reviewed research, please. (There is little consensus, to save you the time.) I've already provided links to places you can go where these things are studied in detail.

How the Holy Fathers got by without your new "insights" into diet, I'll never know.

And an ad hominem is not a fallacy always btw.



Are you speaking about the Euthyphro Dillema?  http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/christian-ethics/divine-command-theory/the-euthyphro-dilemma/

Obviously . . .

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« Reply #9087 on: March 16, 2011, 01:53:59 PM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.

Yet another ad hominem remark...  Says a lot.

People can simply read the articles, weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.

Btw...These articles were not written by Dr. Price. Contributors to this site vary widely but most are highly credentialed. For example Dr. Mary Enig
is a regular contributor. She is best known for her work that proved Trans-Fats ( Artificial Fat made from vegetable oils) are harmful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_G._Enig

Yeah and Creation Scientists can drum out some physicists to back their agenda as well.

pubmed > internet cultery

Wow..All I hear from you are pot shots and fuzzy metaphors.

You just offer internet guruism. Real peer reviewed research, please. (There is little consensus, to save you the time.) I've already provided links to places you can go where these things are studied in detail.

How the Holy Fathers got by without your new "insights" into diet, I'll never know.

And an ad hominem is not a fallacy always btw.



I just posted Mary Enig's wikipedia page that lists all of her published papers. She is co-founder of the Weston Price Foundation...

Here. Let me help you;

    * Mary Enig, Trans fatty acids in the food supply: A comprehensive report covering 60 years of research, (Enig Associates, 1993).
    * Sally Fallon, with Dr Mary Enig (contributing editor), Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats, (NewTrends Publishing, October 1999). ISBN 0-96708-973-5, ISBN 978-0967089737.
    * Mary Enig, Know Your Fats: The Complete Primer for Understanding the Nutrition of Fats, Oils and Cholesterol, (Bethesda Press, May 2000). ISBN 0-96781-260-7, ISBN 978-0967812601.
    * Mary Enig and Sally Fallon, Eat Fat Lose Fat – The Healthy Alternative to Trans Fats, (Plume, March 28, 2006). ISBN 0452285666, ISBN 978-0452285668.

ChapterEdit

    * Mary Enig, "Diet, serum cholesterol and coronary heart disease", in Mann GV (ed): Coronary Heart Disease: The Dietary Sense and Nonsense – An evaluation by scientists. (Janus Publishing, London, 1993). pp 36-60. ISBN 1857560728.

Scientific papersEdit

    * Enig, MG; Munn, RJ; Keeney, M. (1978). "Dietary fat and cancer trends--a critique". Federation proceedings 37 (9): 2215–20. PMID 566221.
    * Enig, MG; Pallansch, LA; Sampugna, J; Keeney, M. (1983). "Fatty acid composition of the fat in selected food items with emphasis on trans components". Journal of the American Oil Chemists’ Society 60: 1788. doi:10.1007/BF02680357.
    * Enig, MG; Budowski, P; Blondheim, SH (1984). "Trans-unsaturated fatty acids in margarines and human subcutaneous fat in Israel". Human nutrition. Clinical nutrition 38 (3): 223–30. PMID 6086551.
    * Enig, MG; Atal, S; Keeney, M; Sampugna, J (1990). "Isomeric trans fatty acids in the U.S. diet". Journal of the American College of Nutrition 9 (5): 471–86. PMID 2258534.
    * Lieberman, Shari, Mary G. Enig, Harry G. Preuss. (December 2006). A Review of Monolaurin and Lauric Acid: Natural Virucidal and Bactericidal Agents. Alternative and Complementary Therapies 12 (6): 310-314. doi:10.1089/act.2006.12.310

Letters to the editorEdit

    * Enig MG. (September 1, 1994). More on Coronary heart disease: the dietary sense and nonsense. New England Journal of Medicine 331 (9): 615. PubMed.
    * Ravnskov U, Allen C, Atrens D, Enig MG, Groves B, Kauffman JM, Kroneld R, Rosch PJ, Rosenman R, Werkö L, Nielsen JV, Wilske J, Worm N. (February 22, 2002). Studies of dietary fat and heart disease. Science 295 (5559): 1464-6. doi: 10.1126/science.295.5559.1464c PubMed

ReferencesEdit

   1. ^ a b Passwater, Richard A. (November 1993–January 1994). Health Risks from Processed Foods and Trans Fats. Interview with Dr. Mary Enig. Whole Foods Magazine.
   2. ^ "Verification Page". Maryland Board of Dietetic Practice. https://mdbnc.dhmh.md.gov/dietVerification/Details.aspx?ID=6878.
   3. ^ Eauclaire, Sally. (July 1996). "Soy backlash". Vegetarian Times. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0820/is_n227/ai_18432895/.
   4. ^ "American College of Nutrition - Awards Information". http://www.americancollegeofnutrition.org/Default.aspx?tabid=121. Retrieved 10 August 2008.
   5. ^ "Member List". The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics. http://www.thincs.org/members.htm.
   6. ^ "Weston A Price Foundation Board of Directors". http://www.westonaprice.org/board-of-directors.html.
   7. ^ Bowden, Jonny. (2007). The 150 Healthiest Foods on Earth – The Surprising, Unbiased Truth About What You Should Eat and Why. Gloucester, MA: Fair Winds Press. pp. 108, 167, 177, 301, 311. ISBN 1592332285.
   8. ^ a b Special interest’s secret recipe. (June 15, 2006). The Washington Times. Retrieved march 10, 2011.
   9. ^ Burros, Marian. (October 7, 1992). Now What? U.S. Study Says Margarine May Be Harmful. The New York Times. Retrieved March 10, 2011.
  10. ^ Trimming the Fats. (December 10, 2003). The Washington Post.
  11. ^ a b Webb, Densie. (September 5, 1990). Processed oils rival butter in raising cholesterol. Wilmington Morning Star. N.Y. Times News Service.
  12. ^ Enig, Mary (April 25, 1996). "A New Look at Coconut Oil – Health and Nutritional Benefits from Coconut Oil: An Important Functional Food for the 21st Century". http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/541-new-look-at-coconut-oil.html.  Presented at the AVOC Lauric Oils Symposium, Ho Chi Min City, Vietnam.
  13. ^ Punchihewa, P.G. Recent Activities of the Asian Pacific Coconut Community. (October 1999). COGENT Newsletter. IPGRI.
  14. ^ Asian and Pacific Coconut Community. (n.d.).Articles on the Health Benefits of Coconut Oil.
  15. ^ a b Enig, Mary (May 2000). Know Your Fats. Bethesda Press. pp. 114. ISBN 0-96781-260-7.
  16. ^ Enig, Mary (September 1995). "Health and nutritional benefits from coconut oil and its advantages over competing oils". Indian Coconut Journal. http://coconutboard.gov.in/English-Article-MaryEnig.pdf. Retrieved March 11, 2011.
  17. ^ Enig, Mary. "On Natural Coconut Oil for AIDS and Other Viral Infections". http://www.aspartame.ca/page_oho2b.htm.
  18. ^ Garin: Claims on health benefits of VCO need proof The Philippine Star. 12 Sept 2010.
  19. ^ Enig, Mary (December 18, 2006). "More Good News on Coconut Oil". The Weston A. Price Foundation. http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/533-more-good-news-on-coconut-oil.html. Retrieved March 6, 2011.
  20. ^ Enig, Mary (December 31, 2001). "Lowfat Diets". The Weston A. Price Foundation. http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/547-lowfat-diets.html.
  21. ^ Mary G. Enig and Sally Fallon Eat Fat, Lose Fat: Lose Weight and Feel Great with Three Delicious, Science-based Coconut Diets, Plume, ISBN 0-45228-566-6
  22. ^ Enig, Mary; Sally Fallon (January 1, 2000). "The Skinny on Fats". The Weston A. Price Foundation. http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/526-skinny-on-fats.html.
  23. ^ Stone, Neil J. (March 31, 1994). Book Review – Coronary Heart Disease: The Dietary Sense and Nonsense – An Evaluation by Scientists. New England Journal of Medicine 330 (9): 943–944.
  24. ^ Enig MG. (September 1, 1994). More on Coronary heart disease: the dietary sense and nonsense. New England Journal of Medicine 331 (9): 615. PubMed.
  25. ^ Ravnskov U, Allen C, Atrens D, Enig MG, Groves B, Kauffman JM, Kroneld R, Rosch PJ, Rosenman R, Werkö L, Nielsen JV, Wilske J, Worm N. (February 22, 2002). Studies of dietary fat and heart disease. Science 295 (5559): 1464-6. doi: 10.1126/science.295.5559.1464c PubMed.
  26. ^ Enig, MG; Munn, RJ; Keeney, M (1978). "Dietary fat and cancer trends--a critique". Federation proceedings 37 (9): 2215–20. PMID 566221.
  27. ^ Interview With Stephen Joseph. (May 12, 2003). Live from the Headlines. CNN.
  28. ^ Hailing publicity, lawyer dunks call for Oreo ban. (May 16, 2003). The Chicago Tribune. Reuters.
  29. ^ Enig, Mary (June 30, 2001). "Cholesterol and Heart Disease—A Phony Issue". The Weston A. Price Foundation. http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/538-cholesterol-and-heart-disease-a-phony-issue.html.
  30. ^ L'Abbé, M R; Stender, S; Skeaff, C M; Tavella, M; Ebert, DS; Delp, EJ (2009). "Approaches to removing trans fats from the food supply in industrialized and developing countries". European Journal of Clinical Nutrition 63: S50. doi:10.1038/ejcn.2009.14. PMC 2830089. PMID 19190645. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=2830089.
  31. ^ Jakobsen, MU; O'Reilly, EJ; Heitmann, BL; Pereira, MA; Bälter, K; Fraser, GE; Goldbourt, U; Hallmans, G et al. (2009). "Major types of dietary fat and risk of coronary heart disease: a pooled analysis of 11 cohort studies". The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 89 (5): 1425–32. doi:10.3945/ajcn.2008.27124. PMC 2676998. PMID 19211817. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=2676998.
  32. ^ Mozaffarian, D; Micha, R; Wallace, S; Wallace, Sarah (2010). "Effects on coronary heart disease of increasing polyunsaturated fat in place of saturated fat: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials". PLoS medicine 7 (3): e1000252. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.1000252. PMC 2843598. PMID 20351774. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=2843598.
  33. ^ Siri-Tarino, Patty W., Qi Sun, Frank B. Hu, and Ronald M. Krauss. (2010). Meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies evaluating the association of saturated fat with cardiovascular disease. The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 91 (3): 535-546. doi:10.3945/ajcn.2009.27725.
  34. ^ Maloof, Rich. Coconut Oil. MSN Health and Fitness.
  35. ^ Enig, Mary; Sally Fallon (1999). "The Oiling of America". The Weston A. Price Foundation. http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/525-the-oiling-of-america.html.
  36. ^ Allyn, Karen. (2006). Forward Motion. Interview with Mary Enig. Washington, DC.
  37. ^ Enig, Mary (July 8, 2004). "The Importance of Saturated Fats for Biological Functions". The Weston A. Price Foundation. http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/528-importance-of-saturated-fats-for-biological-functions.html.
  38. ^ Enig, Mary (September 27, 2004). "Digestion and Absorption of Food Fats". The Weston A. Price Foundation. http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/527-digestion-and-absorption-of-food-fats.html.


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« Reply #9088 on: March 16, 2011, 01:59:53 PM »

This article appeared in "The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition" :

"Diet-dependent acid load, Paleolithic nutrition, and evolutionary health promotion"

You can download it here:  http://thepaleodiet.com/testimonials/
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« Reply #9089 on: March 16, 2011, 02:32:15 PM »

People have told me that tofu is supposed to take on the whatever other flavors are around it... I dunno, I didn't like it either *shrugs*

Tofu is not good for you. For one thing, it's very estrogenic. So if you're a guy and have been eating it and suddenly been interested in watching episodes of "The Bachelor" and "Say Yes to the Dress"...... cut back

but these types of things only make a difference if you consume large amounts of it, correct? Or so I've heard...

Here are are a few articles about Soy and health:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/266-myths-and-truths-about-soy.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/711.html

https://westonaprice.org/soy-alert/673-soy-and-the-brain.html

From a health cult started by a dentist. Try a medpub search.

Yet another ad hominem remark...  Says a lot.

People can simply read the articles, weigh the evidence and decide for themselves.

Btw...These articles were not written by Dr. Price. Contributors to this site vary widely but most are highly credentialed. For example Dr. Mary Enig
is a regular contributor. She is best known for her work that proved Trans-Fats ( Artificial Fat made from vegetable oils) are harmful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_G._Enig

Yeah and Creation Scientists can drum out some physicists to back their agenda as well.

pubmed > internet cultery

Wow..All I hear from you are pot shots and fuzzy metaphors.

You just offer internet guruism. Real peer reviewed research, please. (There is little consensus, to save you the time.) I've already provided links to places you can go where these things are studied in detail.

How the Holy Fathers got by without your new "insights" into diet, I'll never know.

And an ad hominem is not a fallacy always btw.



I just posted Mary Enig's wikipedia page that lists all of her published papers. She is co-founder of the Weston Price Foundation...

Here. Let me help you;

    * Mary Enig, Trans fatty acids in the food supply: A comprehensive report covering 60 years of research, (Enig Associates, 1993).
    * Sally Fallon, with Dr Mary Enig (contributing editor), Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats, (NewTrends Publishing, October 1999). ISBN 0-96708-973-5, ISBN 978-0967089737.
    * Mary Enig, Know Your Fats: The Complete Primer for Understanding the Nutrition of Fats, Oils and Cholesterol, (Bethesda Press, May 2000). ISBN 0-96781-260-7, ISBN 978-0967812601.
    * Mary Enig and Sally Fallon, Eat Fat Lose Fat – The Healthy Alternative to Trans Fats, (Plume, March 28, 2006). ISBN 0452285666, ISBN 978-0452285668.

ChapterEdit

    * Mary Enig, "Diet, serum cholesterol and coronary heart disease", in Mann GV (ed): Coronary Heart Disease: The Dietary Sense and Nonsense – An evaluation by scientists. (Janus Publishing, London, 1993). pp 36-60. ISBN 1857560728.

Scientific papersEdit

    * Enig, MG; Munn, RJ; Keeney, M. (1978). "Dietary fat and cancer trends--a critique". Federation proceedings 37 (9): 2215–20. PMID 566221.
    * Enig, MG; Pallansch, LA; Sampugna, J; Keeney, M. (1983). "Fatty acid composition of the fat in selected food items with emphasis on trans components". Journal of the American Oil Chemists’ Society 60: 1788. doi:10.1007/BF02680357.
    * Enig, MG; Budowski, P; Blondheim, SH (1984). "Trans-unsaturated fatty acids in margarines and human subcutaneous fat in Israel". Human nutrition. Clinical nutrition 38 (3): 223–30. PMID 6086551.
    * Enig, MG; Atal, S; Keeney, M; Sampugna, J (1990). "Isomeric trans fatty acids in the U.S. diet". Journal of the American College of Nutrition 9 (5): 471–86. PMID 2258534.
    * Lieberman, Shari, Mary G. Enig, Harry G. Preuss. (December 2006). A Review of Monolaurin and Lauric Acid: Natural Virucidal and Bactericidal Agents. Alternative and Complementary Therapies 12 (6): 310-314. doi:10.1089/act.2006.12.310

Letters to the editorEdit

    * Enig MG. (September 1, 1994). More on Coronary heart disease: the dietary sense and nonsense. New England Journal of Medicine 331 (9): 615. PubMed.
    * Ravnskov U, Allen C, Atrens D, Enig MG, Groves B, Kauffman JM, Kroneld R, Rosch PJ, Rosenman R, Werkö L, Nielsen JV, Wilske J, Worm N. (February 22, 2002). Studies of dietary fat and heart disease. Science 295 (5559): 1464-6. doi: 10.1126/science.295.5559.1464c PubMed

ReferencesEdit

   1. ^ a b Passwater, Richard A. (November 1993–January 1994). Health Risks from Processed Foods and Trans Fats. Interview with Dr. Mary Enig. Whole Foods Magazine.
   2. ^ "Verification Page". Maryland Board of Dietetic Practice. https://mdbnc.dhmh.md.gov/dietVerification/Details.aspx?ID=6878.
   3. ^ Eauclaire, Sally. (July 1996). "Soy backlash". Vegetarian Times. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0820/is_n227/ai_18432895/.
   4. ^ "American College of Nutrition - Awards Information". http://www.americancollegeofnutrition.org/Default.aspx?tabid=121. Retrieved 10 August 2008.
   5. ^ "Member List". The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics. http://www.thincs.org/members.htm.
   6. ^ "Weston A Price Foundation Board of Directors". http://www.westonaprice.org/board-of-directors.html.
   7. ^ Bowden, Jonny. (2007). The 150 Healthiest Foods on Earth – The Surprising, Unbiased Truth About What You Should Eat and Why. Gloucester, MA: Fair Winds Press. pp. 108, 167, 177, 301, 311. ISBN 1592332285.
   8. ^ a b Special interest’s secret recipe. (June 15, 2006). The Washington Times. Retrieved march 10, 2011.
   9. ^ Burros, Marian. (October 7, 1992). Now What? U.S. Study Says Margarine May Be Harmful. The New York Times. Retrieved March 10, 2011.
  10. ^ Trimming the Fats. (December 10, 2003). The Washington Post.
  11. ^ a b Webb, Densie. (September 5, 1990). Processed oils rival butter in raising cholesterol. Wilmington Morning Star. N.Y. Times News Service.
  12. ^ Enig, Mary (April 25, 1996). "A New Look at Coconut Oil – Health and Nutritional Benefits from Coconut Oil: An Important Functional Food for the 21st Century". http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/541-new-look-at-coconut-oil.html.  Presented at the AVOC Lauric Oils Symposium, Ho Chi Min City, Vietnam.
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Peer-reviewed please on the subject of soy and health and let not take too seriously anything with "meta-analysis" in the title. I can have my doc friend pull up thousands of references is you would like and turn this thread into thousands of pages long.

The point is mute. According to you everyone on the planet should falling off the face of the earth of disease at an early age and yet as mentioned in another thread the Blue Zones don't correspond to your dietary faith, so the diet is bracketed.

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