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« Reply #7920 on: May 05, 2010, 10:08:27 PM »

Make like the mantis. Praying Mantis
And eat bugs?  No, thank you. Tongue
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« Reply #7921 on: May 05, 2010, 10:20:51 PM »

Make like the mantis. Praying Mantis
And eat bugs?  No, thank you. Tongue


Or we could be like St. John the Baptist and eat praying mantises. Wink



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« Reply #7922 on: May 06, 2010, 12:23:52 AM »

Make like the mantis. Praying Mantis
And eat bugs?  No, thank you. Tongue

The mantis is called 'praying' because it is in a praying posture, get it?

It goes with the picture I posted before it, it looks like a human hand reaching up. Its a Pulsar.
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« Reply #7923 on: May 06, 2010, 12:29:58 AM »

"Wise man say... don't be a fool... king."

Anyone know where that quote is from? (I hope I'm remembering it right)  I'll give you a hint, it was in a game.
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« Reply #7924 on: May 06, 2010, 12:35:37 AM »

Why is it that when I order books I'm all excited, and then when they arrive, instead of reading them I sit here in front of a computer!?  Huh Angry Cheesy
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« Reply #7925 on: May 06, 2010, 01:25:19 AM »

I'm willing to try anything. Doubling up the amount of coffee works wonders.

Festival season is a upon us -- I suggest you get thee to a Greek festival ASAP! lol

In the meantime,

Greek Frappe (Be sure to read the comments on the bottom)

Also, read History of the Greek Frappe

For decent "hot" instant coffee, have you tried the Starbucks version?
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« Reply #7926 on: May 06, 2010, 01:27:11 AM »

Why is it that when I order books I'm all excited, and then when they arrive, instead of reading them I sit here in front of a computer!?  Huh Angry Cheesy

I do the same thing!  laugh
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« Reply #7927 on: May 06, 2010, 03:08:12 AM »

Why is it that when I order books I'm all excited, and then when they arrive, instead of reading them I sit here in front of a computer!?  Huh Angry Cheesy


Because the demon of self-esteem has you by the neck  laugh


I know how that is, you feel like you need this book, get all worked up about it because you feel like you need it, you buy it, then you read a little bit of it, then you put it down and see ANOTHER book, you buy IT, and its just a viscious cycle of mindless materiality.


I have bought many great Orthodox books, but I probably will never read them all.

Only Christ has wisdom. It says in the Epistle that in Him dwell all the treasures of knowledge and Wisdom.

Colossians 2:3

 3In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.


If only I had known that before I started buying all these expensive books Undecided

I spent $240 on the Evergetinos only to find another book that I 'thought I needed'.

Well, you know what the Proverb says,

''The rich man's wealth is his strong city, and as an high wall in his own conceit.''


Proverbs 18:11


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« Reply #7928 on: May 06, 2010, 03:32:28 AM »

Why is it that when I order books I'm all excited, and then when they arrive, instead of reading them I sit here in front of a computer!?  Huh Angry Cheesy

That's easy.  Books are static and finite, while the internet is dynamic and appears infinite.  Wink
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« Reply #7929 on: May 06, 2010, 04:04:36 AM »

Why is it that when I order books I'm all excited, and then when they arrive, instead of reading them I sit here in front of a computer!?  Huh Angry Cheesy

That's easy.  Books are static and finite, while the internet is dynamic and appears infinite.  Wink



Some books may appear to be material and are confined to time and space.

But I have to let you know that the Spiritual books, the ones about the soul and eternity are much much more than finite.

The Bible Is one of those books which you will never be able to fully understand, because its too deep for the simple human mind to grasp.

The Bible can only be grasped by prayer for enlightenment from God, and complete and total surrender to His will.



But can you believe how we even have computers and the Internet?

Just think that only 20 years ago the internet was made.



Just think how the Holy Fathers were writing on chips of wood back in the day   Grin

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« Reply #7930 on: May 06, 2010, 05:00:33 AM »

Some books may appear to be material and are confined to time and space.

But I have to let you know that the Spiritual books, the ones about the soul and eternity are much much more than finite.

The Bible Is one of those books which you will never be able to fully understand, because its too deep for the simple human mind to grasp.

The Bible can only be grasped by prayer for enlightenment from God, and complete and total surrender to His will.
I'm an Atheist (well, I suppose I like the term Humanist more), so I doubt we would come to an agreement over spiritual texts.  Though I can understand how a topic and the inspiration it creates can be infinite, a book is still a finite number of pages.  The internet, well, it falls more into that paradoxical ''finite yet boundless'' category.


But can you believe how we even have computers and the Internet?
I'm a Computer Scientist, so yes, yes I can.  Wink
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« Reply #7931 on: May 06, 2010, 05:24:49 AM »

Some books may appear to be material and are confined to time and space.

But I have to let you know that the Spiritual books, the ones about the soul and eternity are much much more than finite.

The Bible Is one of those books which you will never be able to fully understand, because its too deep for the simple human mind to grasp.

The Bible can only be grasped by prayer for enlightenment from God, and complete and total surrender to His will.
I'm an Atheist (well, I suppose I like the term Humanist more), so I doubt we would come to an agreement over spiritual texts.  Though I can understand how a topic and the inspiration it creates can be infinite, a book is still a finite number of pages.  The internet, well, it falls more into that paradoxical ''finite yet boundless'' category.


But can you believe how we even have computers and the Internet?
I'm a Computer Scientist, so yes, yes I can.  Wink

Do you know that you have a soul?

And that God exists?

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« Reply #7932 on: May 06, 2010, 05:52:10 AM »

Do you know that you have a soul?

And that God exists?
I find the notion of both to be extremely unlikely (though I suppose much hinges on your definition of 'God') and choose to live my life based upon humanist ideals.
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« Reply #7933 on: May 06, 2010, 07:20:01 AM »

Do you know that you have a soul?

And that God exists?
I find the notion of both to be extremely unlikely (though I suppose much hinges on your definition of 'God') and choose to live my life based upon humanist ideals.


I want you to watch this video, please do, it will explain everything you need to know about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsDk0M-AE1k&feature=related


Don't you feel like something is missing in your life?

Or that there is something greater out there than just men and creation?

Man could not have possibly created himself.

This whole existence you and i live in, it is temporal, people die, matter decays, people age and fade away, almost like they never where.

The whole Universe decays, it is not logical to believe that the whole transient Universe could be created from itself.

There is and must be an entity, beyond all others, a source of all of this life, if not, then our existence could never be explained.

And if there were just rows of men being born and then dying as if they never were, then life has no meaning.

There would be no point in doing anything good, or evil.

There is a God, and He is 3, The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, these 3 are 1.

He is a Triune God.

All of this has been revealed by the Holy Scriptures, it is the Word of God







St John the Evangelist speaks

John 4:24

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

According to one of our Saints, St Dionysius the Areopagite, God is even above spirit, and based on His very nature, God is Omnipresent, He is dispersed everywhere and man can be with God at any time.
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« Reply #7934 on: May 06, 2010, 07:49:09 AM »

Do you know that you have a soul?

And that God exists?
I find the notion of both to be extremely unlikely (though I suppose much hinges on your definition of 'God') and choose to live my life based upon humanist ideals.


I want you to watch this video, please do, it will explain everything you need to know about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsDk0M-AE1k&feature=related


Don't you feel like something is missing in your life?

Or that there is something greater out there than just men and creation?

Man could not have possibly created himself.

This whole existence you and i live in, it is temporal, people die, matter decays, people age and fade away, almost like they never where.

The whole Universe decays, it is not logical to believe that the whole transient Universe could be created from itself.

There is and must be an entity, beyond all others, a source of all of this life, if not, then our existence could never be explained.

And if there were just rows of men being born and then dying as if they never were, then life has no meaning.

There would be no point in doing anything good, or evil.

There is a God, and He is 3, The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, these 3 are 1.

He is a Triune God.

All of this has been revealed by the Holy Scriptures, it is the Word of God







St John the Evangelist speaks

John 4:24

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

According to one of our Saints, St Dionysius the Areopagite, God is even above spirit, and based on His very nature, God is Omnipresent, He is dispersed everywhere and man can be with God at any time.
Please don't tell me you think this is going to change his/her mind.
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« Reply #7935 on: May 06, 2010, 07:50:43 AM »

I'm willing to try anything. Doubling up the amount of coffee works wonders.

Festival season is a upon us -- I suggest you get thee to a Greek festival ASAP! lol

In the meantime,

Greek Frappe (Be sure to read the comments on the bottom)

Also, read History of the Greek Frappe

For decent "hot" instant coffee, have you tried the Starbucks version?
Starbucks?
No thanks, I'm using the Nescafe Instant stuff. I wish our coffee machine worked, I'd brew coffee all day! (Assuming we even had actual non-instant coffee)
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« Reply #7936 on: May 06, 2010, 08:30:33 AM »

I'm willing to try anything. Doubling up the amount of coffee works wonders.

Festival season is a upon us -- I suggest you get thee to a Greek festival ASAP! lol

In the meantime,

Greek Frappe (Be sure to read the comments on the bottom)

Also, read History of the Greek Frappe

For decent "hot" instant coffee, have you tried the Starbucks version?
Starbucks?
No thanks, I'm using the Nescafe Instant stuff. I wish our coffee machine worked, I'd brew coffee all day! (Assuming we even had actual non-instant coffee)


I ordered some coffee from the Holy Cross Hermitage in WV and let me tell you, it is some of the best coffee I have ever had.

20% off Pashca sale Smiley

I got the 'Abbots Choice' whole bean dark roast.

http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=COFF&keywords=all&template=PDGCommTemplates/TopBotNav/Storebuilder_Type4.html

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« Reply #7937 on: May 06, 2010, 08:33:11 AM »

I'm willing to try anything. Doubling up the amount of coffee works wonders.

Festival season is a upon us -- I suggest you get thee to a Greek festival ASAP! lol

In the meantime,

Greek Frappe (Be sure to read the comments on the bottom)

Also, read History of the Greek Frappe

For decent "hot" instant coffee, have you tried the Starbucks version?
Starbucks?
No thanks, I'm using the Nescafe Instant stuff. I wish our coffee machine worked, I'd brew coffee all day! (Assuming we even had actual non-instant coffee)


I ordered some coffee from the Holy Cross Hermitage in WV and let me tell you, it is some of the best coffee I have ever had.

20% off Pashca sale Smiley

I got the 'Abbots Choice' whole bean dark roast.

http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=COFF&keywords=all&template=PDGCommTemplates/TopBotNav/Storebuilder_Type4.html


We may actually end up friends if that coffee is any good. School ends soon and i'm selling my books, so i'll have a cash surplus.
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« Reply #7938 on: May 06, 2010, 01:30:11 PM »

I'm willing to try anything. Doubling up the amount of coffee works wonders.

Festival season is a upon us -- I suggest you get thee to a Greek festival ASAP! lol

In the meantime,

Greek Frappe (Be sure to read the comments on the bottom)

Also, read History of the Greek Frappe

For decent "hot" instant coffee, have you tried the Starbucks version?
Starbucks?
No thanks, I'm using the Nescafe Instant stuff. I wish our coffee machine worked, I'd brew coffee all day! (Assuming we even had actual non-instant coffee)
You don't need a coffee machine. All you need is a French press, and maybe a grinder. If you grind your own, just use 1 tablespoon per 8 oz. in the bottom of the French press, add boiling water (we use a electric pressure kettle, which is fast, but you could do it on the stove too), and let it sit 4-5 minutes before pressing. If you buy pre-ground coffee, make sure it is coarsely ground. The fine grind can clog French presses.
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« Reply #7939 on: May 06, 2010, 02:16:34 PM »

I'm willing to try anything. Doubling up the amount of coffee works wonders.

Festival season is a upon us -- I suggest you get thee to a Greek festival ASAP! lol

In the meantime,

Greek Frappe (Be sure to read the comments on the bottom)

Also, read History of the Greek Frappe

For decent "hot" instant coffee, have you tried the Starbucks version?
Starbucks?
No thanks, I'm using the Nescafe Instant stuff. I wish our coffee machine worked, I'd brew coffee all day! (Assuming we even had actual non-instant coffee)
You don't need a coffee machine. All you need is a French press, and maybe a grinder. If you grind your own, just use 1 tablespoon per 8 oz. in the bottom of the French press, add boiling water (we use a electric pressure kettle, which is fast, but you could do it on the stove too), and let it sit 4-5 minutes before pressing. If you buy pre-ground coffee, make sure it is coarsely ground. The fine grind can clog French presses.
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« Reply #7940 on: May 06, 2010, 03:12:47 PM »

I'm willing to try anything. Doubling up the amount of coffee works wonders.

Festival season is a upon us -- I suggest you get thee to a Greek festival ASAP! lol

In the meantime,

Greek Frappe (Be sure to read the comments on the bottom)

Also, read History of the Greek Frappe

For decent "hot" instant coffee, have you tried the Starbucks version?
Starbucks?
No thanks, I'm using the Nescafe Instant stuff. I wish our coffee machine worked, I'd brew coffee all day! (Assuming we even had actual non-instant coffee)


I ordered some coffee from the Holy Cross Hermitage in WV and let me tell you, it is some of the best coffee I have ever had.

20% off Pashca sale Smiley

I got the 'Abbots Choice' whole bean dark roast.

http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=COFF&keywords=all&template=PDGCommTemplates/TopBotNav/Storebuilder_Type4.html


We may actually end up friends if that coffee is any good. School ends soon and i'm selling my books, so i'll have a cash surplus.

In the meantime, while under normal circumstances I cannot stand flavored or milk/sugar in my coffee, when forced to use instant I usually go with the flavored stuff (mocha, cappuccino, vanilla, whatever) and double strength it.  With real coffee I like to taste my coffee, with instant I'd rather forget it tried to pretend to be coffee in the first place.
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« Reply #7941 on: May 06, 2010, 03:23:45 PM »

I'm willing to try anything. Doubling up the amount of coffee works wonders.

Festival season is a upon us -- I suggest you get thee to a Greek festival ASAP! lol

In the meantime,

Greek Frappe (Be sure to read the comments on the bottom)

Also, read History of the Greek Frappe

For decent "hot" instant coffee, have you tried the Starbucks version?
Starbucks?
No thanks, I'm using the Nescafe Instant stuff. I wish our coffee machine worked, I'd brew coffee all day! (Assuming we even had actual non-instant coffee)


I ordered some coffee from the Holy Cross Hermitage in WV and let me tell you, it is some of the best coffee I have ever had.

20% off Pashca sale Smiley

I got the 'Abbots Choice' whole bean dark roast.

http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=COFF&keywords=all&template=PDGCommTemplates/TopBotNav/Storebuilder_Type4.html


We may actually end up friends if that coffee is any good. School ends soon and i'm selling my books, so i'll have a cash surplus.

In the meantime, while under normal circumstances I cannot stand flavored or milk/sugar in my coffee, when forced to use instant I usually go with the flavored stuff (mocha, cappuccino, vanilla, whatever) and double strength it.  With real coffee I like to taste my coffee, with instant I'd rather forget it tried to pretend to be coffee in the first place.
it tastes way too watery.
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« Reply #7942 on: May 06, 2010, 03:31:34 PM »


You don't need a coffee machine. All you need is a French press, and maybe a grinder.

I have a French press....but, I hate washing out the coffee grounds and not getting them down the drain.  Coffee grounds down the drain is one of the easiest ways to clog the sink!   Undecided
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You don't need a coffee machine. All you need is a French press, and maybe a grinder.

I have a French press....but, I hate washing out the coffee grounds and not getting them down the drain.  Coffee grounds down the drain is one of the easiest ways to clog the sink!   Undecided
Fuuuuuuu-

Any aideas then? Dry and re-use?
Dry and trashcan? or?
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« Reply #7944 on: May 06, 2010, 03:51:48 PM »

In the summer, I just pour water in, swirl, and pour it outside under my flowers.  They appreciate the added acidity.

However, in the frigid cold of winter, I usually just put in a bit of water, swirl and try to wipe the grounds out.
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« Reply #7945 on: May 06, 2010, 04:02:29 PM »

How long did it take for you(everyone reading) to be accepted as a Catechumen?

I'm a bit confused, as this doesn't seem to be connected to what you were responding to. Wink But if I'm understanding correctly, fwiw, I became a catechumen after about a year of investigating Orthodoxy, and then my catechumenate lasted about six months.
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« Reply #7946 on: May 06, 2010, 04:46:11 PM »

Please don't tell me you think this is going to change his/her mind.

laugh  I've never understood why some instantly think something is 'missing' from my life.  The only thing I missed today was lunch... Tongue


About coffee:

For the best at-home coffee, you just need a stove top espresso maker, good grounds and good Grappa, and you are set.   Wink
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« Reply #7947 on: May 06, 2010, 04:55:34 PM »

How long did it take for you(everyone reading) to be accepted as a Catechumen?

I don't know about being "accepted" as one, like there is some period of inquiry necessary beforehand. I think there naturally is one at first, but you can become a catechumen whenever you want to. I went to services and asked questions for about six months before I took my catechumen vows, and I've been one for about a year and a half now. Everybody's different, so the length of the catechumenate between you and your priest.
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« Reply #7948 on: May 06, 2010, 06:06:15 PM »

How long did it take for you(everyone reading) to be accepted as a Catechumen?

I'm a bit confused, as this doesn't seem to be connected to what you were responding to. Wink But if I'm understanding correctly, fwiw, I became a catechumen after about a year of investigating Orthodoxy, and then my catechumenate lasted about six months.
Yeah Aster, i was just being RANDOM.. see the title. thank you all Tongue
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« Reply #7949 on: May 06, 2010, 06:11:16 PM »

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« Reply #7950 on: May 06, 2010, 06:53:30 PM »

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« Reply #7951 on: May 06, 2010, 09:03:42 PM »

Did anyone else ever find Scooby-Doo cartoons to be somewhat disappointing since there never were any real monsters or ghouls, only shady business owners, real estate agents, insurance agents, corrupt sheriffs, etc?  Well, besides the 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo...
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« Reply #7952 on: May 06, 2010, 09:33:43 PM »

Did anyone else ever find Scooby-Doo cartoons to be somewhat disappointing since there never were any real monsters or ghouls, only shady business owners, real estate agents, insurance agents, corrupt sheriffs, etc?  Well, besides the 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo...


Not disappointing, just deceptive.


I don't know why, but i'm going to link something about Scooby Doo which is totally ridiculous.... Family Guy is soo horrible.

Lord condemn me not.

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By the way, why are you on a Christian forum if you are an Atheist? Are you trying to fill people's heads with your humanistic and secular non-sense? What is your business here?

It does not make any sense whatsoever to me.

Absolutely zero (0) sense....
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« Reply #7953 on: May 06, 2010, 09:36:35 PM »

By the way, why are you on a Christian forum if you are an Atheist? Are you trying to fill people's heads with your humanistic and secular non-sense? What is your agenda?

That does not make any whatsoever.

Absolutely zero (0) sense....

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« Reply #7954 on: May 06, 2010, 09:39:02 PM »

By the way, why are you on a Christian forum if you are an Atheist? Are you trying to fill people's heads with your humanistic and secular non-sense? What is your agenda?

That does not make any whatsoever.

Absolutely zero (0) sense....



What did I do wrong?
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« Reply #7955 on: May 06, 2010, 09:42:22 PM »

Lol, it's just as a former non-believer who stuck around this forum and eventually came back, I don't understand the comments of posters here sometimes. Not that I understood some of the comments even when I was an unbeliever either. It reminds me of that joke about someone who goes to a Greek Church, and someone says to them "Why are you here? You're not Greek! American Church is down the road!"
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« Reply #7956 on: May 06, 2010, 09:46:28 PM »

Its just because I like to follow what the Epistle says about heterodox people.

Paul says in Titus 3 that if a person is a heretic after the 1st or 2nd admonition, reject him, become such a person is subverted and condemned of himself...

And we can't keep that spirit of Athiesm in our midst, or shelter him under the wings of truth if he will not submit himself to our Faith.

Heresy is toxic. Poisonous.

If he does not repent after the 1st or 2nd admonition like the Apostle commands us, then we have full rights to reject him.
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« Reply #7957 on: May 06, 2010, 09:49:24 PM »

He left the Church, and St. Paul implies that we do not judge those outside the body:

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church?" - 1 Cor. 5:12
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« Reply #7958 on: May 06, 2010, 09:52:25 PM »

Picking on people is not random behavior....

Neither is picking on a random person....
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« Reply #7959 on: May 06, 2010, 09:54:23 PM »

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« Reply #7960 on: May 06, 2010, 09:56:09 PM »

^ 53 characters - makes a good Twitter post.   Smiley
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« Reply #7961 on: May 06, 2010, 09:57:20 PM »

He left the Church, and St. Paul implies that we do not judge those outside the body:

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church?" - 1 Cor. 5:12

What is that supposed to mean that 'he left the church'?

The only reason that we are not supposed to judge the outsiders is because it will gain us no profit whatsoever.

We don't have the right to say 'Oh, that guys worships Buddha, so I know he's going to hell'

Because it does not do anything to profit our salvation, the Fathers have always taught us that it is almost more serious than any other sin than to judge, because when you judge, you are taking that persons sin and making it apart of your life while fogetting about your own sins.

But that is much different than to rightly discrimination about heretics. We have every right to judge on certain matters, read the scriptures:

 1Cor 6:3

Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

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« Reply #7962 on: May 06, 2010, 10:01:01 PM »

And we can't keep that spirit of Athiesm in our midst, or shelter him under the wings of truth if he will not submit himself to our Faith.
I suppose many on here, an internet discussion forum, support the freedom of thought, opinion, conscious and speech.

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You may reject me if you wish, but I hardly expect some sort of public forum shunning to occur.

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And by leaving, he means I'm an apostate.  I have renounced my religious faith.
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« Reply #7963 on: May 06, 2010, 10:02:31 PM »

And we can't keep that spirit of Athiesm in our midst, or shelter him under the wings of truth if he will not submit himself to our Faith.
I suppose many on here, an internet discussion forum, support the freedom of thought, opinion, conscious and speech.

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You may reject me if you wish, but I hardly expect some sort of public forum shunning to occur.

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And by leaving, he means I'm an apostate.  I have renounced my religious faith.
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« Reply #7964 on: May 06, 2010, 10:03:21 PM »

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