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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30780 on: September 14, 2019, 01:29:47 AM »
Just learned that there is a state in India with Baptists majority. Strange world.

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« Reply #30781 on: September 15, 2019, 12:49:51 PM »
Just learned that there is a state in India with Baptists majority. Strange world.
Nagaland the only region in the world with a Baptist majority IIRC. A Hindu friend of mine says they're heavily syncretic, though. But IDK, maybe it's wishful thinking, as a syncretic Hindu he would definitely enjoy if their diverse native forms of spirituality were still healthy.
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« Reply #30782 on: September 15, 2019, 02:53:36 PM »
^Syncretist Baptism sounds like an oxymoron. Next they probably start drinking and dancing.

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« Reply #30783 on: September 15, 2019, 03:54:15 PM »
^Syncretist Baptism sounds like an oxymoron. Next they probably start drinking and dancing.
I personally know Pentecostals into Afro-Brazilian Paganism.
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« Reply #30784 on: September 15, 2019, 04:33:41 PM »
^Syncretist Baptism sounds like an oxymoron. Next they probably start drinking and dancing.
I personally know Pentecostals into Afro-Brazilian Paganism.

Not surprising.
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« Reply #30785 on: September 15, 2019, 05:15:52 PM »
Yeah, there must definitely be quite a few Baptists doing it, too.

One of my best friend's neighbouring family was practicing Pagan. They all converted to Protestantism, but one of them still incorporates regularly and involuntarily.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30786 on: September 16, 2019, 09:52:31 AM »
Yeah, there must definitely be quite a few Baptists doing it, too.

One of my best friend's neighbouring family was practicing Pagan. They all converted to Protestantism, but one of them still incorporates regularly and involuntarily.

You know I initially misread this post, out of context, and it was hilarious.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30787 on: September 16, 2019, 09:53:47 AM »
^Syncretist Baptism sounds like an oxymoron. Next they probably start drinking and dancing.
I personally know Pentecostals into Afro-Brazilian Paganism.

Is there really a difference?  I have a really low opinion of Pentecostals.  I wonder if on Pentecostal forums they post in tongues (don’t try it, for the love of all that’s good!)

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« Reply #30788 on: September 16, 2019, 10:47:02 AM »
Yeah, there must definitely be quite a few Baptists doing it, too.

One of my best friend's neighbouring family was practicing Pagan. They all converted to Protestantism, but one of them still incorporates regularly and involuntarily.

You know I initially misread this post, out of context, and it was hilarious.
How so? Incorporation is how they call possession by "entities" (I'm Candomblé, orixás; in Umbanda there are other possibilities)
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« Reply #30789 on: September 16, 2019, 04:26:30 PM »
^Syncretist Baptism sounds like an oxymoron. Next they probably start drinking and dancing.
I personally know Pentecostals into Afro-Brazilian Paganism.

Kind of logical since some stripe of Pentecostalists are all about demons always and everywhere anyway but I thought Baptists shun all kinds of Charismatic nonsense.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30790 on: September 17, 2019, 10:02:24 AM »
Just learned that there is a state in India with Baptists majority. Strange world.
Nagaland the only region in the world with a Baptist majority IIRC. A Hindu friend of mine says they're heavily syncretic, though. But IDK, maybe it's wishful thinking, as a syncretic Hindu he would definitely enjoy if their diverse native forms of spirituality were still healthy.

Anywhere there is a traditional religion the new religion is going to syncretize it somewhat. Native forms and all that. I knew some Reformed missionaries in Haiti who would set up a church, pastor it for a while and once the local congregation was stable they would move on to another location. Every few months they would visit back as a supervisor only to find things like voodoo drums hanging above the ambo.

We are formed by our culture. That's why American Orthodoxy is often Calvinist in its orientation even though it rejects the theology.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30791 on: September 17, 2019, 10:14:25 AM »
Just learned that there is a state in India with Baptists majority. Strange world.
Nagaland the only region in the world with a Baptist majority IIRC. A Hindu friend of mine says they're heavily syncretic, though. But IDK, maybe it's wishful thinking, as a syncretic Hindu he would definitely enjoy if their diverse native forms of spirituality were still healthy.

Anywhere there is a traditional religion the new religion is going to syncretize it somewhat. Native forms and all that. I knew some Reformed missionaries in Haiti who would set up a church, pastor it for a while and once the local congregation was stable they would move on to another location. Every few months they would visit back as a supervisor only to find things like voodoo drums hanging above the ambo.

We are formed by our culture. That's why American Orthodoxy is often Calvinist in its orientation even though it rejects the theology.

What do you mean?
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« Reply #30792 on: September 17, 2019, 04:34:18 PM »
There she goes
There she goes again
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« Reply #30793 on: September 17, 2019, 10:31:39 PM »
I coach a u12 boys soccer team and I was yelling at firmly, but politely asking a kid to quit screwing around and pay attention and I called him by the wrong name... it was my own son.

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« Reply #30794 on: September 17, 2019, 10:42:23 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30796 on: September 18, 2019, 09:10:19 AM »
My grandma calls me Carlos all the time. It's the name of her husband, her oldest son and her youngest grandson, so I guess she just goes for the most probable name.
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« Reply #30797 on: September 18, 2019, 09:20:09 AM »
On my mom's side of the family, there are several men named "Luis".  Whenever a relative says, "Well, Luis said such-and-such...," someone always says, "Whose Luis?"  It can get confusing.
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« Reply #30798 on: September 18, 2019, 08:50:53 PM »
A few posts were split and sent to Politics.  The thread can be found here.  It's worthy of discussion, but not on the public fora; please bear that in mind.  Thanks.  --Ainnir
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« Reply #30799 on: September 20, 2019, 02:15:24 PM »
Anywhere there is a traditional religion the new religion is going to syncretize it somewhat.

The Christ makes all things new.
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« Reply #30800 on: September 20, 2019, 03:48:55 PM »
Just learned that there is a state in India with Baptists majority. Strange world.
Nagaland the only region in the world with a Baptist majority IIRC. A Hindu friend of mine says they're heavily syncretic, though. But IDK, maybe it's wishful thinking, as a syncretic Hindu he would definitely enjoy if their diverse native forms of spirituality were still healthy.

Anywhere there is a traditional religion the new religion is going to syncretize it somewhat. Native forms and all that. I knew some Reformed missionaries in Haiti who would set up a church, pastor it for a while and once the local congregation was stable they would move on to another location. Every few months they would visit back as a supervisor only to find things like voodoo drums hanging above the ambo.

We are formed by our culture. That's why American Orthodoxy is often Calvinist in its orientation even though it rejects the theology.

What do you mean?
Just look at Fr. Josiah Trenham's popularity for evidence of this
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« Reply #30801 on: September 20, 2019, 04:10:43 PM »
Just learned that there is a state in India with Baptists majority. Strange world.
Nagaland the only region in the world with a Baptist majority IIRC. A Hindu friend of mine says they're heavily syncretic, though. But IDK, maybe it's wishful thinking, as a syncretic Hindu he would definitely enjoy if their diverse native forms of spirituality were still healthy.

Anywhere there is a traditional religion the new religion is going to syncretize it somewhat. Native forms and all that. I knew some Reformed missionaries in Haiti who would set up a church, pastor it for a while and once the local congregation was stable they would move on to another location. Every few months they would visit back as a supervisor only to find things like voodoo drums hanging above the ambo.

We are formed by our culture. That's why American Orthodoxy is often Calvinist in its orientation even though it rejects the theology.

What do you mean?
Just look at Fr. Josiah Trenham's popularity for evidence of this

One priest that writes.
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« Reply #30802 on: September 20, 2019, 06:11:09 PM »
Lol

I'll take Agabus' post a step further, Americans are Calvinist in their orientation, regardless of religion.
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« Reply #30803 on: September 20, 2019, 07:28:52 PM »
Lol

I'll take Agabus' post a step further, Americans are Calvinist in their orientation, regardless of religion.

This should be in the thread for ignorant Europeans but anyway what does this means? Finns are Protestants but rather Lutherans than Reformed so I fail to understand the reference.

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« Reply #30804 on: September 20, 2019, 08:01:22 PM »
Yes, the Calvinist/Baptist Reformed Stance on Preaching.

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« Reply #30805 on: September 20, 2019, 08:57:58 PM »
Just learned that there is a state in India with Baptists majority. Strange world.
Nagaland the only region in the world with a Baptist majority IIRC. A Hindu friend of mine says they're heavily syncretic, though. But IDK, maybe it's wishful thinking, as a syncretic Hindu he would definitely enjoy if their diverse native forms of spirituality were still healthy.

Anywhere there is a traditional religion the new religion is going to syncretize it somewhat. Native forms and all that. I knew some Reformed missionaries in Haiti who would set up a church, pastor it for a while and once the local congregation was stable they would move on to another location. Every few months they would visit back as a supervisor only to find things like voodoo drums hanging above the ambo.

We are formed by our culture. That's why American Orthodoxy is often Calvinist in its orientation even though it rejects the theology.

Explain that one to me, how is American Orthodoxy Calvinism? M a ethnic parish with immigrants is a good thing then.

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« Reply #30806 on: September 20, 2019, 10:57:54 PM »
I'll take Agabus' post a step further, Americans are Calvinist in their orientation, regardless of religion.
Or lack thereof... I recall a lecture I saw on how not only did Calvinism shaped American imperialism, but also the primitive denomination division shaped different currents of it.
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« Reply #30807 on: September 21, 2019, 12:05:47 PM »
I'll take Agabus' post a step further, Americans are Calvinist in their orientation, regardless of religion.
Or lack thereof... I recall a lecture I saw on how not only did Calvinism shaped American imperialism, but also the primitive denomination division shaped different currents of it.
Yep this is truth.

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but also the primitive denomination division shaped different currents of it.
What does this mean? Reads like gibberish
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« Reply #30808 on: September 21, 2019, 12:44:17 PM »
Lol

I'll take Agabus' post a step further, Americans are Calvinist in their orientation, regardless of religion.

This should be in the thread for ignorant Europeans but anyway what does this means? Finns are Protestants but rather Lutherans than Reformed so I fail to understand the reference.

Calvinism is the foundation of America. It still remains the dominant ideology that influences not just the religious, but also the political, cultural and economic. The clearest example would be how secular liberalism adopted the Calvinist work ethic, stripping it of its theological trappings ("the elect" being worldly prosperous, predestination, etc). It made grueling, long work hours (beyond the needs of material survival), self-discipline, thriftiness, ambition, etc. into virtues. That's why America is called the most overworked nation in the world that eschews a healthier, balanced lifestyle. Ever notice when Americans moralize the poor and their "failings", that they weren't hard-working or frugal enough? This is partly why poverty never truly gets addressed. Our politics are decisively Calvinist as well. Politicians glorify the middle class and facilitate its needs, because again American values and liberalism have their "spiritual" basis in Calvinism. It's also responsible for American exceptionalism.

So yeah I think Calvinism more than the orientation of American Orthodox, but fundamentally it touches on all facets of American life.
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but also the primitive denomination division shaped different currents of it.
What does this mean? Reads like gibberish
I don't recall detail, but it was something in the lines of Presbyterian synodality shaping an idea that community was larger than one could see, creating specific forms of nationalism and then globalism, while Southern Baptists being more local would make them develop political forms paradoxically both more cautious of foreigners and more skeptical of being able to control their politics at will (leading them to devise other imperialist strategies).
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« Reply #30810 on: September 21, 2019, 01:15:08 PM »
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but also the primitive denomination division shaped different currents of it.
What does this mean? Reads like gibberish
I don't recall detail, but it was something in the lines of Presbyterian synodality shaping an idea that community was larger than one could see, creating specific forms of nationalism and then globalism, while Southern Baptists being more local would make them develop political forms paradoxically both more cautious of foreigners and more skeptical of being able to control their politics at will (leading them to devise other imperialist strategies).

Wow that is fascinating and makes a lot of sense too.
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« Reply #30811 on: September 21, 2019, 01:55:26 PM »
The "paradoxically" part didn't make sense because I had written something more specific, then realised it wasn't appropriad for public fora lol

The guy who gave the lecture was Lutheran
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« Reply #30812 on: September 24, 2019, 01:52:33 PM »
Just realised the Church of Greece primate is Albanian while the Albanian Orthodox Church primate is Greek. The Balkans are weird.
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« Reply #30813 on: September 24, 2019, 05:19:42 PM »
Just realised the Church of Greece primate is Albanian while the Albanian Orthodox Church primate is Greek. The Balkans are weird.

That's offensive. The Greeks have a primacy of race.
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« Reply #30814 on: September 24, 2019, 08:44:26 PM »
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« Reply #30815 on: September 24, 2019, 08:47:43 PM »
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Many years!!
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30816 on: September 24, 2019, 09:03:08 PM »
Muhnohgahyuhlehyehtah
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30817 on: September 24, 2019, 11:28:29 PM »
Many thanks and many letas!
"May the Lord our God remember in His kingdom all Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which heralds the Word of Truth and fearlessly offers and distributes the Holy Oblation despite human deficiencies and persecutions moved by the powers of this world, in all time and unto the ages of ages."

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30818 on: October 02, 2019, 12:33:35 PM »
I have 29 tabs open right now.  I think my laptop needs a time out...   :P
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30819 on: October 02, 2019, 01:04:28 PM »
I have 29 tabs open right now.  I think my laptop needs a time out...   :P
And maybe so do you!  :laugh:
"May the Lord our God remember in His kingdom all Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which heralds the Word of Truth and fearlessly offers and distributes the Holy Oblation despite human deficiencies and persecutions moved by the powers of this world, in all time and unto the ages of ages."

May the Blessed Light shine Forth

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30820 on: October 02, 2019, 01:14:41 PM »
I have 29 tabs open right now.  I think my laptop needs a time out...   :P
And maybe so do you!  :laugh:
When I find my off switch, it will be a blessed day.    :angel:
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30821 on: October 02, 2019, 01:30:41 PM »
I have 29 tabs open right now.  I think my laptop needs a time out...   :P
And maybe so do you!  :laugh:
When I find my off switch, it will be a blessed day.    :angel:
and that's why I pick my nose
"May the Lord our God remember in His kingdom all Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which heralds the Word of Truth and fearlessly offers and distributes the Holy Oblation despite human deficiencies and persecutions moved by the powers of this world, in all time and unto the ages of ages."

May the Blessed Light shine Forth

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30822 on: October 02, 2019, 01:35:16 PM »
I have 29 tabs open right now.  I think my laptop needs a time out...   :P
And maybe so do you!  :laugh:
When I find my off switch, it will be a blessed day.    :angel:
and that's why I pick my nose
Picking your nose is your off switch??  ;D  I'm not testing that theory.  I'll have to settle for made-for-TV movies once in a blue moon.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30823 on: October 02, 2019, 01:36:13 PM »
I have 29 tabs open right now.  I think my laptop needs a time out...   :P

My wife always gives me hard time about, but you've just made me better about only having 17 tabs open.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #30824 on: October 02, 2019, 03:39:55 PM »
I have 29 tabs open right now.  I think my laptop needs a time out...   :P
And maybe so do you!  :laugh:
When I find my off switch, it will be a blessed day.    :angel:
and that's why I pick my nose
Picking your nose is your off switch??  ;D  I'm not testing that theory.  I'll have to settle for made-for-TV movies once in a blue moon.
I'm not sure, but the off switch must be somewhere in there...
"May the Lord our God remember in His kingdom all Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, which heralds the Word of Truth and fearlessly offers and distributes the Holy Oblation despite human deficiencies and persecutions moved by the powers of this world, in all time and unto the ages of ages."

May the Blessed Light shine Forth