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« Reply #29565 on: September 01, 2018, 02:59:39 PM »
Is int Orthodox new year the 14th of  January! it is in Russia, Palestine, Jordan, Armenia, Belarus, Uzbekistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Montenegro, Moldova, Ukraine

September 1st is Byzantine New Year. January 14th is modern secular, New Year when you adjust for the difference between the two calendars (also why Mor referred to September 14th above).
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« Reply #29566 on: September 01, 2018, 03:34:45 PM »
On Athos, when a monk dies, he is defleshed and his skull is placed on a shelf, with a mark and writing on it for identification. In the resurrection when he is refleshed will these marks remain?
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« Reply #29567 on: September 01, 2018, 03:41:17 PM »
On Athos, when a monk dies, he is defleshed and his skull is placed on a shelf, with a mark and writing on it for identification. In the resurrection when he is refleshed will these marks remain?

That's kind of like asking if someone with a metal hip will still have it. In all such cases I tend to think, "probably not, since there's no need for it." I could see Jesus retaining His wounds for all eternity just for the (for us) remembrance value, but I don't see why, eg. St. John the Baptist should carry his head around under his arm.

Of course, in the case of monks (and metal hips), you wouldn't know anyway since it would be under their new flesh.
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« Reply #29568 on: September 01, 2018, 05:13:38 PM »
I mean, blasted Latins shouldn't get all the 'angels dancing on the heads of a pin' questions, amirite?  8)
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« Reply #29569 on: September 01, 2018, 05:22:39 PM »
Is int Orthodox new year the 14th of  January! it is in Russia, Palestine, Jordan, Armenia, Belarus, Uzbekistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Montenegro, Moldova, Ukraine

September 1st is Byzantine New Year. January 14th is modern secular, New Year when you adjust for the difference between the two calendars (also why Mor referred to September 14th above).

September 1st is the eccleciastical (Church) new year, just see the liturgical text on the day. The 1st January is the feast of the Lord's Circumision and st. Basil the Great. Celebrating January 14th as "old new year" it's a hipocrisy, in my opinion (well, I'm not a fan of celebrating 1st January, or actually 31st December as New Year's eve, 1st January is a Church feast, that's all, while I prefer counting years according to school and Church year, i.e starting from September, as usually this month brings me some changes, not January).
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« Reply #29570 on: September 01, 2018, 05:24:17 PM »
Is int Orthodox new year the 14th of  January! it is in Russia, Palestine, Jordan, Armenia, Belarus, Uzbekistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Montenegro, Moldova, Ukraine

September 1st is Byzantine New Year. January 14th is modern secular, New Year when you adjust for the difference between the two calendars (also why Mor referred to September 14th above).

September 1st is the eccleciastical (Church) new year, just see the liturgical text on the day. The 1st January is the feast of the Lord's Circumision and st. Basil the Great. Celebrating January 14th as "old new year" it's a hipocrisy, in my opinion (well, I'm not a fan of celebrating 1st January, or actually 31st December as New Year's eve, 1st January is a Church feast, that's all, while I prefer counting years according to school and Church year, i.e starting from September, as usually this month brings me some changes, not January).

Fair points.
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« Reply #29571 on: September 01, 2018, 06:35:42 PM »
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« Reply #29572 on: September 01, 2018, 11:18:04 PM »
So bored tonight...
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« Reply #29573 on: September 01, 2018, 11:25:53 PM »
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« Reply #29574 on: September 02, 2018, 07:31:40 AM »
The Lestovka is great! Who agrees with me!

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« Reply #29575 on: September 02, 2018, 10:15:51 AM »
On Athos, when a monk dies, he is defleshed and his skull is placed on a shelf, with a mark and writing on it for identification. In the resurrection when he is refleshed will these marks remain?

What's the purpose of this? It seems rather gruesome. Why not to just bury the dead instead?
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« Reply #29576 on: September 02, 2018, 10:24:18 AM »
On Athos, when a monk dies, he is defleshed and his skull is placed on a shelf, with a mark and writing on it for identification. In the resurrection when he is refleshed will these marks remain?

What's the purpose of this? It seems rather gruesome. Why not to just bury the dead instead?

He is buried until the flesh is rotted off (the body is checked at 3 years).  If it is, tge bones are cleaned.  Skull goes on a shelf, the rest of the bones go to an ossuary.  This is done primarily because there is not much space for a cemetary on Athos.

Not defleshed as in ripping muscle and sinew off to get to bone.
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« Reply #29577 on: September 02, 2018, 10:54:17 AM »
^Thanks. That sounds a lot more humane.
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« Reply #29578 on: September 02, 2018, 11:04:51 AM »
Actually, I wonder if the Japanese Orthodox have asked for legal clearance to do that, given Japan's similar lack of cemetery space.
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« Reply #29579 on: September 02, 2018, 03:19:58 PM »
Actually, I wonder if the Japanese Orthodox have asked for legal clearance to do that, given Japan's similar lack of cemetery space.

In Japan, cremation is required by law.
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« Reply #29580 on: September 02, 2018, 04:08:37 PM »
Actually, I wonder if the Japanese Orthodox have asked for legal clearance to do that, given Japan's similar lack of cemetery space.

In Japan, cremation is required by law.

Ah. I had a feeling...
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« Reply #29581 on: September 02, 2018, 09:38:01 PM »
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« Reply #29582 on: September 02, 2018, 10:03:07 PM »
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no idea, so there’s that.

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« Reply #29583 on: September 02, 2018, 10:20:39 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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« Reply #29586 on: September 03, 2018, 04:56:47 PM »
I had koliva for the first time in my life, recently (though it was made with boiled rice instead of wheat). Is it supposed to be really, REALLY, sweet and tasty? I thought the point of koliva is that eating it is a sacrifice.
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« Reply #29587 on: September 03, 2018, 06:22:39 PM »
I had koliva for the first time in my life, recently (though it was made with boiled rice instead of wheat). Is it supposed to be really, REALLY, sweet and tasty? I thought the point of koliva is that eating it is a sacrifice.

No one would eat it if it was disgusting.

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« Reply #29588 on: September 03, 2018, 06:41:13 PM »
Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?
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« Reply #29589 on: September 03, 2018, 06:47:37 PM »
Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?

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« Reply #29590 on: September 03, 2018, 06:50:04 PM »
I had koliva for the first time in my life, recently (though it was made with boiled rice instead of wheat). Is it supposed to be really, REALLY, sweet and tasty? I thought the point of koliva is that eating it is a sacrifice.

No one would eat it if it was disgusting.

https://oca.org/saints/lives/2014/03/08/9-1st-saturday-of-great-lent-the-miracle-of-the-boiled-wheat

But use is eating it for the dead if it doesn't make you FEEL like you're dead? :p
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« Reply #29591 on: September 03, 2018, 07:17:02 PM »
Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?

I hope not.

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Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?


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« Reply #29592 on: September 03, 2018, 07:19:35 PM »
I had koliva for the first time in my life, recently (though it was made with boiled rice instead of wheat). Is it supposed to be really, REALLY, sweet and tasty? I thought the point of koliva is that eating it is a sacrifice.

No one would eat it if it was disgusting.

https://oca.org/saints/lives/2014/03/08/9-1st-saturday-of-great-lent-the-miracle-of-the-boiled-wheat

But use is eating it for the dead if it doesn't make you FEEL like you're dead? :p

The koliva at my parish is really bland.

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« Reply #29593 on: September 03, 2018, 07:19:56 PM »
https://archiveofourown.org/users/Parakeetist/works Warning: stories have mature content.

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« Reply #29594 on: September 03, 2018, 07:29:32 PM »
I had koliva for the first time in my life, recently (though it was made with boiled rice instead of wheat). Is it supposed to be really, REALLY, sweet and tasty? I thought the point of koliva is that eating it is a sacrifice.

No one would eat it if it was disgusting.

https://oca.org/saints/lives/2014/03/08/9-1st-saturday-of-great-lent-the-miracle-of-the-boiled-wheat

But use is eating it for the dead if it doesn't make you FEEL like you're dead? :p

The koliva at my parish is really bland.

http://stgeorgetampabay.org/

For being a Greek parish, that's sad.
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Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?

Kitezh-style? I hope! Lord willing I make it there
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Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?

Kitezh-style? I hope! Lord willing I make it there
Sorry, the correct answer is Constantinople 880 AD. Good guess though.
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« Reply #29597 on: September 03, 2018, 07:56:55 PM »
Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?

Kitezh-style? I hope! Lord willing I make it there
Sorry, the correct answer is Constantinople 880 AD. Good guess though.

Can heaven not smell like feces?
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Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?

Kitezh-style? I hope! Lord willing I make it there
Sorry, the correct answer is Constantinople 880 AD. Good guess though.

Can heaven not smell like feces?
You think medieval Rus smelled better?  :P

Guess Shakopee, Minnesota will have to do in that case.
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« Reply #29599 on: September 03, 2018, 08:09:45 PM »
I think in general the "medievals threw their crap out the window" thing is kind of a myth. They may not have understood germ theory of disease, but they knew what smelled bad (and they had the miasma theory, to boot).
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Will the heavenly Jerusalem look like medieval Rus?

Kitezh-style? I hope! Lord willing I make it there
Sorry, the correct answer is Constantinople 880 AD. Good guess though.

Can heaven not smell like feces?
You think medieval Rus smelled better?  :P

Guess Shakopee, Minnesota will have to do in that case.
All three smell of feces and BO.
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« Reply #29601 on: September 03, 2018, 08:36:53 PM »
Don't forget the plague:

"Mass graves were created across the Golden Horn (in Pera), but they were poorly covered and the stench of death wafted over the city when the winds blew from the north." (A Cabinet of Byzantine Curiosities, p. 202)
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #29602 on: September 03, 2018, 08:39:44 PM »
Don't forget the plague:

"Mass graves were created across the Golden Horn (in Pera), but they were poorly covered and the stench of death wafted over the city when the winds blew from the north." (A Cabinet of Byzantine Curiosities, p. 202)

And that's what happens when the government goes with the low bid!
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« Reply #29603 on: September 03, 2018, 10:04:28 PM »
Don't forget the plague:

"Mass graves were created across the Golden Horn (in Pera), but they were poorly covered and the stench of death wafted over the city when the winds blew from the north." (A Cabinet of Byzantine Curiosities, p. 202)

Yuck.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #29604 on: September 03, 2018, 10:10:07 PM »
lol I just received a notification that someone wanted to enter a Facebook group I moderate and it was just the Syriac archbishop of Brazil
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #29605 on: September 03, 2018, 10:31:52 PM »
lol I just received a notification that someone wanted to enter a Facebook group I moderate and it was just the Syriac archbishop of Brazil

Networking win!
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #29606 on: September 04, 2018, 09:25:06 AM »
lol I just received a notification that someone wanted to enter a Facebook group I moderate and it was just the Syriac archbishop of Brazil

Networking win!
+1

Or a bishop that likes your post on FB...
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #29607 on: September 04, 2018, 05:30:22 PM »
lol I just received a notification that someone wanted to enter a Facebook group I moderate and it was just the Syriac archbishop of Brazil

Networking win!
+1

Or a bishop that likes your post on FB...
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #29608 on: September 05, 2018, 02:00:44 AM »
Is it weird that I'm happy and self-satisfied that I found out some obscure possible English phonemic realisation wasn't included in the respective International Phonetic Alphabet English-language Wikipedia article and just added it? lol

It seems some phonologist argues people in England may realise "r" as a weaker "th" in words like "crow", "try" or "pretty".
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« Reply #29609 on: September 05, 2018, 07:01:23 PM »
Is it weird that I'm happy and self-satisfied that I found out some obscure possible English phonemic realisation wasn't included in the respective International Phonetic Alphabet English-language Wikipedia article and just added it? lol

It seems some phonologist argues people in England may realise "r" as a weaker "th" in words like "crow", "try" or "pretty".

Maybe. But I'd be proud, too :p
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