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« Reply #26730 on: May 30, 2017, 12:16:59 PM »
You do realize it was a joke, right?

Of course.  But the subculture which spawned it deserves ridicule.

Seems more like "someone's wrong on internet" than ridicule. But I do approve of the irony. ;)
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« Reply #26731 on: May 30, 2017, 12:18:49 PM »
By the time that brilliant, satirical, but pious mind is done with you, I assume you'll be feeling grateful for every scrap of masculinity you maintain.

So then he's sort of the anti-Porter?

Well done.

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I've seen plenty of beardless saints.

So have I. They're children and women. ;)
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #26732 on: May 30, 2017, 12:32:57 PM »
In the modern United States, I can name a thousand softies with beards and a thousand hard rocks without.

"But the bearded hard rock is the pinnacle of all." -ZZ, who knows these things. Listen to her.
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« Reply #26733 on: May 30, 2017, 12:50:48 PM »
By the time that brilliant, satirical, but pious mind is done with you, I assume you'll be feeling grateful for every scrap of masculinity you maintain.

So then he's sort of the anti-Porter?

Well done.

One tries.

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I've seen plenty of beardless saints.

So have I. They're children and women. ;)







I'd be willing to bet that pre-glorification these "children and women" could mop the floor with Porter's big bushy beard should they so desire.
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« Reply #26734 on: May 30, 2017, 12:53:11 PM »
In the modern United States, I can name a thousand softies with beards and a thousand hard rocks without.

"But the bearded hard rock is the pinnacle of all." -ZZ, who knows these things. Listen to her.

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« Reply #26735 on: May 30, 2017, 12:54:30 PM »
PO'd has been picking pointless fights all over the place lately.
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« Reply #26736 on: May 30, 2017, 01:19:44 PM »
By the time that brilliant, satirical, but pious mind is done with you, I assume you'll be feeling grateful for every scrap of masculinity you maintain.

So then he's sort of the anti-Porter?

Well done.

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I've seen plenty of beardless saints.

So have I. They're children and women. ;)







I'd be willing to bet that pre-glorification these "children and women" could mop the floor with Porter's big bushy beard should they so desire.

A bit unmanly to pick on slaves and soldiers, who rarely had a say in their appearance.
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« Reply #26737 on: May 30, 2017, 01:39:06 PM »





A bit unmanly to pick on slaves and soldiers, who rarely had a say in their appearance.


oh you mean like MOST wage earners must comply with dress and appearance codes and unless some of them wish to remain unemployed...might go beardless in order to provide for families???
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« Reply #26738 on: May 30, 2017, 02:00:54 PM »





A bit unmanly to pick on slaves and soldiers, who rarely had a say in their appearance.


oh you mean like MOST wage earners must comply with dress and appearance codes and unless some of them wish to remain unemployed...might go beardless in order to provide for families???

I'm certainly willing to make the connection between wage-workers of today and slaves of Antiquity, altho that's getting political.
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« Reply #26739 on: May 30, 2017, 03:26:22 PM »
A bit unmanly to pick on slaves and soldiers, who rarely had a say in their appearance.
oh you mean like MOST wage earners must comply with dress and appearance codes and unless some of them wish to remain unemployed...might go beardless in order to provide for families???
I'm certainly willing to make the connection between wage-workers of today and slaves of Antiquity, altho that's getting political.
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« Reply #26740 on: May 30, 2017, 04:24:34 PM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.
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« Reply #26741 on: May 30, 2017, 05:47:55 PM »
By the time that brilliant, satirical, but pious mind is done with you, I assume you'll be feeling grateful for every scrap of masculinity you maintain.

So then he's sort of the anti-Porter?

Well done.

One tries.

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I've seen plenty of beardless saints.

So have I. They're children and women. ;)







I'd be willing to bet that pre-glorification these "children and women" could mop the floor with Porter's big bushy beard should they so desire.

A bit unmanly to pick on slaves and soldiers, who rarely had a say in their appearance.

St. George was from a noble family.  His father was an officer, and he joined the army of his own volition.  Same for St. Demetios.  His father was, in fact, a senator.  St. Mina's father was the governor of an administrative district in Egypt.  None of these men were slaves or conscripts.  All were pious Christians and career military, all were manly beyond a shadow of a doubt, and all opted against facial hair.  Besides, I could have just as easily gone with any number of other saints.  For example:











Now go ahead and try to find a reason to dismiss each of them.  A shaven face is not necessarily an emasculated or an impious one, PO'D.  Deal with it.

Rather unmanly to carp on like a bitter, lonely, jilted old woman when you know neither your history nor your hagiography in the interests of defending some point of minutiae you're obsessed with and some warped worldview with equates manhood with hairiness.

PO'd has been picking pointless fights all over the place lately.

I've noticed.  He seems a bitter, cantankerous, spiteful shell of his former self.  He's truly earned the nickname PO'D.  His beard must be in miserable condition, because his recent catty behavior is not what I would term masculine.

I'm certainly willing to make the connection between wage-workers of today and slaves of Antiquity, altho that's getting political.

Hey, you've already tried to make a connection between three ancients who weren't slaves and the institution of Roman slavery, so why not?  Go for the gusto.

There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

And you are the exemplar of your people, apparently, at least in the first two categories.  As for the third, try mouthing off to some beardless Marine.  ;)
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« Reply #26742 on: May 30, 2017, 06:26:59 PM »
I'm not the one obsessed. Forgive me for indulging your obsession. I'll leave you alone now with your "beardless Marines."
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« Reply #26743 on: May 30, 2017, 06:30:17 PM »
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"Now, don't allow yourself to be fatigued beyond your powers; there's a amiable bein'.
Consider what you owe to society, and don't let yourself be injured by too much work.
For the sake o' your feller-creeturs, keep yourself as quiet as you can; only think what a loss you would be!"
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« Reply #26744 on: May 30, 2017, 06:33:01 PM »
Criminy

That's a word which, broken into two parts -- cry and minny -- sounds very unmanly, but when said all at once has an ugly and manly abrasiveness to it. Very good, very good.
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« Reply #26745 on: May 30, 2017, 06:42:22 PM »
I'm not the one obsessed. Forgive me for indulging your obsession. I'll leave you alone now with your "beardless Marines."

Says the sad little man losing the debate.  Trying to flip this on me isn't going to work.  You were the one trying obsessively to prove that shaving is crime against manhood, nature, and Almighty God, a sign of impiety and femininity, and now that it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is not the case - that pious and indisputably masculine figures in the history of the Church have voluntarily opted to shave - that you don't know your history or hagiography and that your weird barn raisin' worldview concerning "chin whiskers and sich" doesn't jibe with reality - you're taking your butter churn and going home.  I'll leave you alone with...well, just alone.  ;D

And P.S. - If shaven men are unmanly and ungodly, you might want to change your avatar from that painting of a beardless St. John the Beloved to something more masculine and godly, like this:


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« Reply #26746 on: May 30, 2017, 07:03:30 PM »
And P.S. - If shaven men are unmanly and ungodly, you might want to change your avatar from that painting of a beardless St. John the Beloved to something more masculine and godly

Only the impious would mock the masculinity of a holy apostle. As I've come to expect from you young American whipper snappers, no respect or shame.
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« Reply #26747 on: May 30, 2017, 07:07:41 PM »
How many hipsters has this guy actually met, that he's developed such a strong opinion about them?
"Now, don't allow yourself to be fatigued beyond your powers; there's a amiable bein'.
Consider what you owe to society, and don't let yourself be injured by too much work.
For the sake o' your feller-creeturs, keep yourself as quiet as you can; only think what a loss you would be!"
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« Reply #26748 on: May 30, 2017, 07:09:40 PM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

Preach it brother! Back in my day, if we saw a woman's ankle, we'd become inflamed in a procreative way and call her a trollop. Now they are flouting their cleavage and booties shamelessly. And the boys are even worse! I say we bring back the draft.


Post edited to remove graphic/obscene reference. Keep it clean, keep it safe. -ZZ
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« Reply #26749 on: May 30, 2017, 07:10:04 PM »
I'm not the one obsessed. Forgive me for indulging your obsession. I'll leave you alone now with your "beardless Marines."

Says the sad little man losing the debate.  Trying to flip this on me isn't going to work.  You were the one trying obsessively to prove that shaving is crime against manhood, nature, and Almighty God, a sign of impiety and femininity, and now that it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is not the case - that pious and indisputably masculine figures in the history of the Church have voluntarily opted to shave - that you don't know your history or hagiography and that your weird barn raisin' worldview concerning "chin whiskers and sich" doesn't jibe with reality - you're taking your butter churn and going home.  I'll leave you alone with...well, just alone.  ;D

And P.S. - If shaven men are unmanly and ungodly, you might want to change your avatar from that painting of a beardless St. John the Beloved to something more masculine and godly, like this:



If any of this was a debate, I'd say Alpo won. Kept it short and light-footed and left well before last call.
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« Reply #26750 on: May 30, 2017, 07:11:09 PM »
How many hipsters has this guy actually met, that he's developed such a strong opinion about them?

If you had lived anywhere near Brooklyn the last decade or so, you'd want it razed and salted, too.
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« Reply #26751 on: May 30, 2017, 07:11:59 PM »
Criminy

That's a word which, broken into two parts -- cry and minny -- sounds very unmanly, but when said all at once has an ugly and manly abrasiveness to it. Very good, very good.

TY, Sir
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Consider what you owe to society, and don't let yourself be injured by too much work.
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« Reply #26752 on: May 30, 2017, 07:12:44 PM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

Preach it brother! Back in my day, if we saw a woman's ankle, become inflamed in a procreative way and call her a trollop. Now they are flouting their cleavage and booties shamelessly. And the boys are even worse! I say we bring back the draft.

That's not really the kind of shame I'm talking about.

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« Reply #26753 on: May 30, 2017, 07:20:01 PM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.
Not for long, though.
"Now, don't allow yourself to be fatigued beyond your powers; there's a amiable bein'.
Consider what you owe to society, and don't let yourself be injured by too much work.
For the sake o' your feller-creeturs, keep yourself as quiet as you can; only think what a loss you would be!"
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"Mouth make trouble, mouth make no trouble." - Sun Tzu

"Physician, heal thyself." - Ancient proverb

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« Reply #26754 on: May 30, 2017, 07:23:22 PM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

Preach it brother! Back in my day, if we saw a woman's ankle, we'd become inflamed in a procreative way and call her a trollop. Now they are flouting their cleavage and booties shamelessly. And the boys are even worse! I say we bring back the draft.

And P.S. - If shaven men are unmanly and ungodly, you might want to change your avatar from that painting of a beardless St. John the Beloved to something more masculine and godly

Only the impious would mock the masculinity of a holy apostle. As I've come to expect from you young American whipper snappers, no respect or shame.



And the avatar...there's not a laughter gif in the world worthy of such awesomeness.

How many hipsters has this guy actually met, that he's developed such a strong opinion about them?

If you had lived anywhere near Brooklyn the last decade or so, you'd want it razed and salted, too.

+1

Certain neighborhoods in Philly too.

I'm not the one obsessed. Forgive me for indulging your obsession. I'll leave you alone now with your "beardless Marines."

Says the sad little man losing the debate.  Trying to flip this on me isn't going to work.  You were the one trying obsessively to prove that shaving is crime against manhood, nature, and Almighty God, a sign of impiety and femininity, and now that it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is not the case - that pious and indisputably masculine figures in the history of the Church have voluntarily opted to shave - that you don't know your history or hagiography and that your weird barn raisin' worldview concerning "chin whiskers and sich" doesn't jibe with reality - you're taking your butter churn and going home.  I'll leave you alone with...well, just alone.  ;D

And P.S. - If shaven men are unmanly and ungodly, you might want to change your avatar from that painting of a beardless St. John the Beloved to something more masculine and godly, like this:



If any of this was a debate, I'd say Alpo won. Kept it short and light-footed and left well before last call.

Yeah, that's like the thousandth thing you've been wrong about in this thread.  You did get the plus one on hipsters in Brooklyn though.

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« Reply #26755 on: May 30, 2017, 08:32:57 PM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

Perhaps this is coincidence, but Cersei was said to lack the same things...


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« Reply #26756 on: May 30, 2017, 09:00:03 PM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.
Tell me you are kidding especially that third one. What is wrong with you?
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« Reply #26757 on: May 30, 2017, 09:09:42 PM »
Lets bring back slavery and whipping! Nothing like a good beating from our masters to show us what true hardship and pain is like. It builds character!
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« Reply #26758 on: May 30, 2017, 10:31:03 PM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

Preach it brother! Back in my day, if we saw a woman's ankle, we'd become inflamed in a procreative way and call her a trollop. Now they are flouting their cleavage and booties shamelessly. And the boys are even worse! I say we bring back the draft.


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« Reply #26759 on: May 30, 2017, 11:31:58 PM »
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« Reply #26760 on: May 31, 2017, 12:55:12 AM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?
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« Reply #26761 on: May 31, 2017, 04:33:38 AM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

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« Reply #26762 on: May 31, 2017, 08:18:47 AM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life.  I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards.  I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #26763 on: May 31, 2017, 08:32:59 AM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

Preach it brother! Back in my day, if we saw a woman's ankle, we'd become inflamed in a procreative way and call her a trollop. Now they are flouting their cleavage and booties shamelessly. And the boys are even worse! I say we bring back the draft.


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How would reinstating military conscription address the issue of sexual morality in society?  Pin-up girls were created largely to decorate barracks.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #26764 on: May 31, 2017, 10:02:25 AM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life.  I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards.  I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)



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« Reply #26765 on: May 31, 2017, 10:28:17 AM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life.  I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards.  I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)



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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #26766 on: May 31, 2017, 10:30:45 AM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life.  I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards.  I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)



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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #26767 on: May 31, 2017, 10:41:10 AM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

Preach it brother! Back in my day, if we saw a woman's ankle, we'd become inflamed in a procreative way and call her a trollop. Now they are flouting their cleavage and booties shamelessly. And the boys are even worse! I say we bring back the draft.


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« Reply #26768 on: May 31, 2017, 10:57:14 AM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life.  I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards.  I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)



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« Reply #26769 on: May 31, 2017, 10:58:30 AM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life.  I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards.  I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)



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« Reply #26770 on: May 31, 2017, 11:21:31 AM »
There are three things America suffers from lack of, in my opinion, but I hardly find anybody else that holds the opinion or even considers it: Americans suffer from lack of shame, lack of respect, and, in most cases, lack of physical pain and hardship.

Preach it brother! Back in my day, if we saw a woman's ankle, we'd become inflamed in a procreative way and call her a trollop. Now they are flouting their cleavage and booties shamelessly. And the boys are even worse! I say we bring back the draft.


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Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life.  I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards.  I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)



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« Reply #26771 on: May 31, 2017, 11:27:28 AM »
I'll pray for you, I know how difficult it must be...
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« Reply #26772 on: May 31, 2017, 11:39:02 AM »
I'll pray for you, I know how difficult it must be...

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« Reply #26773 on: May 31, 2017, 12:34:16 PM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life. I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards. I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)

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« Reply #26774 on: May 31, 2017, 12:42:03 PM »
Beard arguments. We've all been there, amirite?

To me, it's just silly.  I know too many devout, sincere contemporary Orthodox Christians who shave to impugn their piety and even their masculinity based on something so trivial.  I'm thinking here not only of some of the young Coptic medical students and other future professionals I serve in my own ministry, but also of some individuals of my Grandfather's generation who I would bet the farm entered into Paradise upon their repose, and whose prayers I am not ashamed to ask in my daily life. I doubt that when they went before the Throne, God asked them why they hadn't grown in their beards. I've seen my share of converts who think they have to dress like 19th century Russian peasants in order to be Orthodox - and there does seem to be some overlap there with the hipster movement - and yeah, I find that irksome, but mostly the reason I took this thread as personally as I did is because the notion that a shaven face is some sort of shorthand for a lack of piety or masculinity is not only shallow but insulting to too many people I know for a fact are good, sincere, and pious Orthodox Christians.  Forgive me if I reacted vigorously.  My virile, bristling beard got the better of me!  ;)

The better question isn't whether God judges this or that, before his Throne, but what the saints in bliss before his Throne are like? I have no illusions that shaving is a categorical sin (that was all your fancy), but, on the other hand, I'm quite willing to assert that there would be no shaved male faces in Paradise anymore than there would be any female bound (that is, corseted to be flat, as has sometimes been the fashion) breasts. The will of God for creation is quite visible in his creation, if only one can calm down enough to contemplate it.

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