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« Reply #24525 on: September 02, 2015, 10:53:55 PM »
I met some Scots, Welsh and Americans today and talked with them for quite a while. All fine redhead gals. Asteriktos would have been jealous.

I'm a bit jealous too. My beard is red and I wish my hair was too..
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24526 on: September 04, 2015, 03:52:29 PM »
I'm still somewhat confused how written Dutch seems so comprehensible without knowing the language whereas spoken Dutch is a complete mystery.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24527 on: September 04, 2015, 03:55:41 PM »
I'm still somewhat confused how written Dutch seems so comprehensible without knowing the language whereas spoken Dutch is a complete mystery.

Germanic languages are mutually intelligible. I suppose it's because you know a bit of Swedish.

You have more time to think about and interpret written speech than spoken speech.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24528 on: September 04, 2015, 03:56:49 PM »
Hope the weather holds up today. I'd like to get in some racquetball before the park closes.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24529 on: September 04, 2015, 03:59:12 PM »
I'm still somewhat confused how written Dutch seems so comprehensible without knowing the language whereas spoken Dutch is a complete mystery.

Germanic languages are mutually intelligible. I suppose it's because you know a bit of Swedish.

You have more time to think about and interpret written speech than spoken speech.


Makes sense. I read a local Swedish-language newspaper daily which might make reading other Germanic languages easier.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24530 on: September 05, 2015, 04:04:50 AM »
Meanwhile on oc.net...


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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24531 on: September 05, 2015, 04:40:05 AM »
^It's never that exciting.


« Last Edit: September 05, 2015, 04:42:33 AM by hecma925 »
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24532 on: September 06, 2015, 08:55:33 PM »
Little girl: Hey I'm a new person here, I want to ask a question if I'm allowed.
oc.net: Why ask here? Ask your priest.
Little girl: But the question is about my priest.
oc.net: Your priest knows better than us.
Little girl: No, you don't understand, my priest is the problem!
oc.net: That's quite disrespectful! You should go confess your hateful sin. To your priest.
Little girl: What? No! When I go to confession is the main problem time!
oc.net: Blasphemy! Talk to your priest, right this instant! Your soul depends on it!
Little girl: But my priest touches me.
oc.net: He does that to give you absolution. Talk to your priest.
Little girl: He touches me with his penis. Every week. For four years.
oc.net: This sounds very serious. You must immediately talk to your priest and do whatever he says.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24533 on: September 06, 2015, 11:21:35 PM »
Oh come on! That's not right, even satirically
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24534 on: September 07, 2015, 12:31:59 AM »
Little girl: Hey I'm a new person here, I want to ask a question if I'm allowed.
oc.net: Why ask here? Ask your priest.
Little girl: But the question is about my priest.
oc.net: Your priest knows better than us.
Little girl: No, you don't understand, my priest is the problem!
oc.net: That's quite disrespectful! You should go confess your hateful sin. To your priest.
Little girl: What? No! When I go to confession is the main problem time!
oc.net: Blasphemy! Talk to your priest, right this instant! Your soul depends on it!
Little girl: But my priest touches me.
oc.net: He does that to give you absolution. Talk to your priest.
Little girl: He touches me with his penis. Every week. For four years.
oc.net: This sounds very serious. You must immediately talk to your priest and do whatever he says.

Reality.

So I'm guessing once upon a time there was a thread that went like ^this and, instead of bumping it yourself, you're encouraging Severian (without actually naming him) to resurrect it himself. 
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24535 on: September 07, 2015, 01:04:55 AM »
Little girl: Hey I'm a new person here, I want to ask a question if I'm allowed.
oc.net: Why ask here? Ask your priest.
Little girl: But the question is about my priest.
oc.net: Your priest knows better than us.
Little girl: No, you don't understand, my priest is the problem!
oc.net: That's quite disrespectful! You should go confess your hateful sin. To your priest.
Little girl: What? No! When I go to confession is the main problem time!
oc.net: Blasphemy! Talk to your priest, right this instant! Your soul depends on it!
Little girl: But my priest touches me.
oc.net: He does that to give you absolution. Talk to your priest.
Little girl: He touches me with his penis. Every week. For four years.
oc.net: This sounds very serious. You must immediately talk to your priest and do whatever he says.

Reality.

So I'm guessing once upon a time there was a thread that went like ^this and, instead of bumping it yourself, you're encouraging Severian (without actually naming him) to resurrect it himself.

Why do I feel that a typical response for anything and everything on here?

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24536 on: September 07, 2015, 03:06:40 AM »
Oh come on! That's not right, even satirically

So why do people do it? Do people on the forum WANT kids to be diddled? I'm not sure...

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24537 on: September 07, 2015, 03:38:14 AM »
So I'm guessing once upon a time there was a thread that went like ^this and, instead of bumping it yourself, you're encouraging Severian (without actually naming him) to resurrect it himself.
How about you don't associate me with such a disgusting and reprehensible joke?
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24538 on: September 07, 2015, 04:23:05 AM »
NVM
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24539 on: September 07, 2015, 05:33:17 AM »
That was pretty lame, Slave of Christ Paradosis Asteriktos Kissel.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24540 on: September 07, 2015, 11:38:39 AM »
So I'm guessing once upon a time there was a thread that went like ^this and, instead of bumping it yourself, you're encouraging Severian (without actually naming him) to resurrect it himself.
How about you don't associate me with such a disgusting and reprehensible joke?

How about you learn to laugh at yourself a little? 
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24541 on: September 07, 2015, 12:37:40 PM »
Mor Ephrem, I have mixed feelings about you.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24542 on: September 07, 2015, 12:43:50 PM »
Mor Ephrem, I have mixed feelings about you.

I am not surprised. 
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24543 on: September 07, 2015, 02:28:40 PM »
Don't worry. I have no mixed feelings about you. :-*
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24544 on: September 07, 2015, 02:45:04 PM »
Don't worry. I have no mixed feelings about you. :-*

You're my favourite lying Chalcedonian liar Finn.   :angel:
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« Reply #24545 on: September 07, 2015, 02:48:14 PM »
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24546 on: September 07, 2015, 05:28:09 PM »
Mor Ephrem, I have mixed feelings about you.
You should talk to your priest about this.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24547 on: September 07, 2015, 09:23:27 PM »
Mor Ephrem, I have mixed feelings about you.

I am not surprised.

Hahaha, I love how you love yourself.  :laugh:

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« Reply #24548 on: September 07, 2015, 09:24:04 PM »
Mor Ephrem, I have mixed feelings about you.
You should talk to your priest about this.

But, I'm hooked.  :'(

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« Reply #24549 on: September 07, 2015, 09:31:00 PM »
Mor Ephrem, I have mixed feelings about you.

I am not surprised.

Hahaha, I love how you love yourself.  :laugh:

Someone has to. 
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24550 on: September 07, 2015, 10:56:52 PM »
What's so great about Lancaster, PA?
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« Reply #24551 on: September 08, 2015, 10:36:37 AM »
What's so great about Lancaster, PA?
1. My proximity to it
2. Watching tourists stare at Amish people
3. Women seem to like shopping there
4. Trains
5. Furniture
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24552 on: September 08, 2015, 11:45:44 AM »
Hey Maria do you read this thread? If so can I get your take on Soylent? I can start a thread if you'd like.
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« Reply #24553 on: September 08, 2015, 02:08:15 PM »
Hey Maria do you read this thread? If so can I get your take on Soylent? I can start a thread if you'd like.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24554 on: September 08, 2015, 11:00:55 PM »
I need a good hard science/mystery question (that isn't so obvious that it's an eye roller)........and I can trade

an excellent molokhia recipe

or some meal tips on healthy swaps

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24555 on: September 08, 2015, 11:12:23 PM »
Moulokhia:

Chicken soup (with real chicken), fry using butter some "taqlia" (of diced onions and garlic with spices, salt and pepper and some cumin and anything else you think will be good; everyone does their "taqlia" different), and the moulokhia leaves has to be diced almost to a puree, but not puréed (Egyptian grocers will have it ready made in that way). It is not the same when you cook it like the Syrians and Lebanese, with the leaves not cut (I don't like that type).

A lot of different recipes online, but this is the basic structure that I'm used to eating.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #24556 on: September 09, 2015, 12:15:51 AM »
Cumin is my least favorite spice.  I will still definitely eat food made with and even use it in my cooking (sparingly).
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« Reply #24557 on: September 09, 2015, 04:00:17 AM »
Moulokhia:

Chicken soup (with real chicken), fry using butter some "taqlia" (of diced onions and garlic with spices, salt and pepper and some cumin and anything else you think will be good; everyone does their "taqlia" different), and the moulokhia leaves has to be diced almost to a puree, but not puréed (Egyptian grocers will have it ready made in that way). It is not the same when you cook it like the Syrians and Lebanese, with the leaves not cut (I don't like that type).

A lot of different recipes online, but this is the basic structure that I'm used to eating.

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« Reply #24558 on: September 09, 2015, 09:46:51 AM »
Since we are on the topic of food, any thoughts on Cretan cuisine?

I'm sure there are plenty of Greeks here that have something to say...
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« Reply #24559 on: September 09, 2015, 09:53:59 AM »
Cumin is my least favorite spice.  I will still definitely eat food made with and even use it in my cooking (sparingly).

That's why Syrian food is better than Lebanese food. The lebanese tend to overdue it with the cumin.  There is nothing more disapointing than eating kibbeh nayyeh with a lot of Cumin.
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« Reply #24560 on: September 09, 2015, 11:18:30 AM »
You know what I think Americans sorely get wrong when it comes to being healthy, is they think copying someone else's eating pattern or meals somehow is the surefire way to be healthy. They neglect other important lifestyle changes and how to better treat your body. This is the failure of fad diets sure but its how Americans live is the real issue. I wish there was a real drive to minimize factors that play a much larger role than just diet, like stress. Leaving it all on the individual to take care of his or herself is already stressful enough...
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« Reply #24561 on: September 09, 2015, 11:32:58 AM »
You know what I think Americans sorely get wrong when it comes to being healthy, is they think copying someone else's eating pattern or meals somehow is the surefire way to be healthy. They neglect other important lifestyle changes and how to better treat your body. This is the failure of fad diets sure but its how Americans live is the real issue. I wish there was a real drive to minimize factors that play a much larger role than just diet, like stress. Leaving it all on the individual to take care of his or herself is already stressful enough...

That's probably a large part of it.  I bet what ever regional cuisine a person grows up with they can make work quite well for their health.

This might be one of those weird cases where economic class , and America's current tendency to a "non culture" plays a factor..., the problems of the poor and rich are probably a bit different.  For example, modern day bobo culture might be unhealthy specifically because of its obsession with fads and think in sterile terms like "living healthy", and going through a kind of robotic check list mentality through life.

The poor in America may not have a strong family structure (bit that modern bobos do), and among other things they tend to really hurt themselves with a "ghetto rich" mentality.  You could see a single parent with a 40 inch tv, but not enough food for her children.
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« Reply #24562 on: September 09, 2015, 11:41:04 AM »
You know what I think Americans sorely get wrong when it comes to being healthy, is they think copying someone else's eating pattern or meals somehow is the surefire way to be healthy. They neglect other important lifestyle changes and how to better treat your body. This is the failure of fad diets sure but its how Americans live is the real issue. I wish there was a real drive to minimize factors that play a much larger role than just diet, like stress. Leaving it all on the individual to take care of his or herself is already stressful enough...

That's probably a large part of it.  I bet what ever regional cuisine a person grows up with they can make work quite well for their health.

This might be one of those weird cases where economic class plays a factor...especially in America, but the problems of the poor and rich are probably a bit different.  For example, modern day bobo culture might be unhealthy specifically because of its obsession with fads and think in sterile terms like "living healthy", and going through a kind of robotic check list mentality through life.
Yeah I don't think the poor in America have as much choice in indulgences like middle class do. So this is why if you give them more capital they can afford more healthful food. I'm not trying to take away processed foods here, obviously it allows he poor to be fed at minimal financial cost, but what of the human cost over the long term? Ecological?

This is exactly why I wanted Maria's take on Soylent. The underlying idea there is we have a food that could be produced inexpensively but contain all the necessary daily nutrients. Of course none of the claims made by its creator are backed by an rigorous scientific research and frankly I wonder if it's more an excericse in autism. But I wanted to wait for Maria's view before discussing it. Some families don't have a lot of time for meal preparation and cooking.
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« Reply #24563 on: September 09, 2015, 11:49:07 AM »
You know what I think Americans sorely get wrong when it comes to being healthy, is they think copying someone else's eating pattern or meals somehow is the surefire way to be healthy. They neglect other important lifestyle changes and how to better treat your body. This is the failure of fad diets sure but its how Americans live is the real issue. I wish there was a real drive to minimize factors that play a much larger role than just diet, like stress. Leaving it all on the individual to take care of his or herself is already stressful enough...

That's probably a large part of it.  I bet what ever regional cuisine a person grows up with they can make work quite well for their health.

This might be one of those weird cases where economic class plays a factor...especially in America, but the problems of the poor and rich are probably a bit different.  For example, modern day bobo culture might be unhealthy specifically because of its obsession with fads and think in sterile terms like "living healthy", and going through a kind of robotic check list mentality through life.
Yeah I don't think the poor in America have as much choice in indulgences like middle class do. So this is why if you give them more capital they can afford more healthful food. I'm not trying to take away processed foods here, obviously it allows he poor to be fed at minimal financial cost, but what of the human cost over the long term? Ecological?

This is exactly why I wanted Maria's take on Soylent. The underlying idea there is we have a food that could be produced inexpensively but contain all the necessary daily nutrients. Of course none of the claims made by its creator are backed by an rigorous scientific research and frankly I wonder if it's more an excericse in autism. But I wanted to wait for Maria's view before discussing it.

Sorry I did an edit.  But I've been taught as a healthcare worker that when money is given to genuinely poor people, they will prioritize luxury over necessity in many cases.  I think the problem runs much deeper.  The solution: no clue.  I tend to be skeptical (and personally a bit hostile) to "autistic answers"- it remind me of 1950s styled scientism/behaviorism.  Reforms in schooling or communal programs seems the best answer, but that's a very abstract answer.
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« Reply #24564 on: September 09, 2015, 12:24:33 PM »
Moulokhia:

Chicken soup (with real chicken), fry using butter some "taqlia" (of diced onions and garlic with spices, salt and pepper and some cumin and anything else you think will be good; everyone does their "taqlia" different), and the moulokhia leaves has to be diced almost to a puree, but not puréed (Egyptian grocers will have it ready made in that way). It is not the same when you cook it like the Syrians and Lebanese, with the leaves not cut (I don't like that type).

A lot of different recipes online, but this is the basic structure that I'm used to eating.

You pulled my rug....and no science question???

Harsh Minas proper harsh...

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Okay...here's a real tough one I'd like to spend some of my life studying...a neuroscience question:  how are memories neurologically made?
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« Reply #24565 on: September 09, 2015, 12:28:27 PM »
Moulokhia:

Chicken soup (with real chicken), fry using butter some "taqlia" (of diced onions and garlic with spices, salt and pepper and some cumin and anything else you think will be good; everyone does their "taqlia" different), and the moulokhia leaves has to be diced almost to a puree, but not puréed (Egyptian grocers will have it ready made in that way). It is not the same when you cook it like the Syrians and Lebanese, with the leaves not cut (I don't like that type).

A lot of different recipes online, but this is the basic structure that I'm used to eating.

You pulled my rug....and no science question???

Harsh Minas proper harsh...

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Okay...here's a real tough one I'd like to spend some of my life studying...a neuroscience question:  how are memories neurologically made?

Cross-temporal quantum superposition of the subatomic elements of the neurons, thus giving them access to past states and thus literally allowing conscience to be there again ?
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« Reply #24566 on: September 09, 2015, 12:30:58 PM »
Show-off...

there are more than one hypotheses to my knowledge
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« Reply #24567 on: September 09, 2015, 12:37:14 PM »
there are more than one hypotheses to my knowledge

There are many, really, I just like this one. :)

Also, I don't know how spirit interacts with matter, but I have a deep suspicion that it happens in the quantic sub-atomic level, somehow making certain outcomes more probable than others, like loaded dice.
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« Reply #24568 on: September 09, 2015, 12:44:10 PM »
The funny thing is this.  It memory ends up being because of subatomic particles, would we be smashing brains in the LHC to find out? :P
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« Reply #24569 on: September 09, 2015, 12:47:49 PM »
The funny thing is this.  It memory ends up being because of subatomic particles, would we be smashing brains in the LHC to find out? :P

That would be fun. We should try that even without any reasonable theory just to see what happens. :D
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