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« Reply #20835 on: May 13, 2014, 04:22:36 PM »

In these days, when the forum is flooded with threads about ecumenism, controversies and bearded ladies, I like to think back to the days when I had just discovered Orthodoxy and everything was beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those were the days, before everything became confusing and I had to spend every day concerning myself with questions about whether or not I'm making the right choices.
This is also when I realise that it has been 5 years. 5 years, and I still haven't converted. I'm not even sure if that is a good or a bad thing.

Sorry, I just needed a little rant.
Even with all those things, Orthodoxy is still beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those controversies are just the little pebbles that get in your shoe as you walk through the wonderful, wild outdoors of Orthodoxy.
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« Reply #20836 on: May 13, 2014, 04:31:31 PM »

In these days, when the forum is flooded with threads about ecumenism, controversies and bearded ladies, I like to think back to the days when I had just discovered Orthodoxy and everything was beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those were the days, before everything became confusing and I had to spend every day concerning myself with questions about whether or not I'm making the right choices.
This is also when I realise that it has been 5 years. 5 years, and I still haven't converted. I'm not even sure if that is a good or a bad thing.

Sorry, I just needed a little rant.
Even with all those things, Orthodoxy is still beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those controversies are just the little pebbles that get in your shoe as you walk through the wonderful, wild outdoors of Orthodoxy.

Maybe, but why does my pebbles feel like fieldstones? To tell you the truth, there's very little I'm certain about. Nothing seems to be straightforward anymore, and I'm afraid to make a choice.
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« Reply #20837 on: May 13, 2014, 04:46:31 PM »

In these days, when the forum is flooded with threads about ecumenism, controversies and bearded ladies, I like to think back to the days when I had just discovered Orthodoxy and everything was beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those were the days, before everything became confusing and I had to spend every day concerning myself with questions about whether or not I'm making the right choices.
This is also when I realise that it has been 5 years. 5 years, and I still haven't converted. I'm not even sure if that is a good or a bad thing.

Sorry, I just needed a little rant.
Even with all those things, Orthodoxy is still beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those controversies are just the little pebbles that get in your shoe as you walk through the wonderful, wild outdoors of Orthodoxy.

Maybe, but why does my pebbles feel like fieldstones? To tell you the truth, there's very little I'm certain about. Nothing seems to be straightforward anymore, and I'm afraid to make a choice.

the other thing to keep in mind...is that -here- is NOT the Church itself....here are various people...who all enjoy debate and squabbling....so you are seeing a very condensed version of the 'worst' things......rather than the RL Church and it being less concentrated.
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« Reply #20838 on: May 13, 2014, 04:47:18 PM »

In these days, when the forum is flooded with threads about ecumenism, controversies and bearded ladies, I like to think back to the days when I had just discovered Orthodoxy and everything was beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those were the days, before everything became confusing and I had to spend every day concerning myself with questions about whether or not I'm making the right choices.
This is also when I realise that it has been 5 years. 5 years, and I still haven't converted. I'm not even sure if that is a good or a bad thing.

Sorry, I just needed a little rant.
Even with all those things, Orthodoxy is still beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those controversies are just the little pebbles that get in your shoe as you walk through the wonderful, wild outdoors of Orthodoxy.

Maybe, but why does my pebbles feel like fieldstones? To tell you the truth, there's very little I'm certain about. Nothing seems to be straightforward anymore, and I'm afraid to make a choice.
I sense that there is more to this than bearded ladies thread controversies.

I think many people struggle with doubt.  There are those individuals who are so certain about their faith, or what they are supposed to do in life that it provides drive and purpose. The can either be great or they can crash and burn in spectacular fashion.  The rest of us just kind of muddle along to the best of our abilities trying not to screw up the life we have been given too badly. To those who try to figure out the world and how everthing fits together, I often think of the story by Voltaire, Candide. His friend goes on a big explanation telling him how this is the best of all possible worlds despite all the terrible things that have gone on throughout the book and his response is:
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« Reply #20839 on: May 13, 2014, 04:49:52 PM »

Orthodoxy is the Church. Despite Putin, pews, shaved clergy, organs, ecumenism and silly WASP converts. Controversies come and go. The Church will always stay.
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« Reply #20840 on: May 13, 2014, 04:49:59 PM »

In these days, when the forum is flooded with threads about ecumenism, controversies and bearded ladies, I like to think back to the days when I had just discovered Orthodoxy and everything was beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those were the days, before everything became confusing and I had to spend every day concerning myself with questions about whether or not I'm making the right choices.
This is also when I realise that it has been 5 years. 5 years, and I still haven't converted. I'm not even sure if that is a good or a bad thing.

Sorry, I just needed a little rant.
Even with all those things, Orthodoxy is still beautiful, exciting and wondrous. Those controversies are just the little pebbles that get in your shoe as you walk through the wonderful, wild outdoors of Orthodoxy.

Maybe, but why does my pebbles feel like fieldstones? To tell you the truth, there's very little I'm certain about. Nothing seems to be straightforward anymore, and I'm afraid to make a choice.

I was in a place like that once, and a friend told me to just pick one option.  If it wasn't right, that would become clear in time.  When he offered that advice, I took it, made the choice, and never regretted it.  

I wish I could say the same was the case with subsequent decisions in which I applied that advice.  The principle proved true--I always found out eventually whether or not I had made the right choice--but that is little comfort when you figure out that you made the wrong choice and have to deal with the resulting crap as you try to turn the ship around.  But perhaps that is unavoidable.  Anyway, not making a choice is making the choice to be stuck.  And "stuck" is its own hell.

Prayers.  I have been/am there.  Many others are, too.

FWIW, if I didn't read your "little rant", I would never have realised you weren't yet a member of the Orthodox Church.  
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« Reply #20841 on: May 13, 2014, 05:04:21 PM »

Thanks guys. I think Mor hit the nail on the head. I just seem to be stuck, stuck with a lot of things. 
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« Reply #20842 on: May 13, 2014, 10:00:09 PM »

Thanks guys. I think Mor hit the nail on the head. I just seem to be stuck, stuck with a lot of things. 

You aren't alone. It's going on 4 years for me.
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« Reply #20843 on: May 14, 2014, 03:16:43 PM »

Ugh, I wish I could go home or travel while being paid.
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« Reply #20844 on: May 14, 2014, 03:26:56 PM »

Ugh, I wish I could go home or travel while being paid.
What sort of work do you do for a living if I may be so nosy?
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« Reply #20845 on: May 14, 2014, 03:35:53 PM »

Ugh, I wish I could go home or travel while being paid.
What sort of work do you do for a living if I may be so nosy?

Oh, I'm a online pseudo-theologian intent on making a fool of myself.  All volunteer too!
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« Reply #20846 on: May 14, 2014, 03:41:36 PM »

Ugh, I wish I could go home or travel while being paid.
What sort of work do you do for a living if I may be so nosy?

Oh, I'm a online pseudo-theologian intent on making a fool of myself.  All volunteer too!
Tis a rough time in the job market indeed when they won't even let the online pseudo-theologians work from home!
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« Reply #20847 on: May 14, 2014, 03:44:21 PM »

Ugh, I wish I could go home or travel while being paid.
What sort of work do you do for a living if I may be so nosy?

Oh, I'm a online pseudo-theologian intent on making a fool of myself.  All volunteer too!
Tis a rough time in the job market indeed when they won't even let the online pseudo-theologians work from home!

No kidding!  My wife would be none  to happy. 
"Get off the computer!"
"But dear, someone is being a heretic...ON THE INTERNET!"

*Sigh*  For the love of pseudo-theology.  I wonder what Abba Hezekiah has to say about all this. Cry

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« Reply #20848 on: May 14, 2014, 04:11:24 PM »

This story may be of some relevance regarding your current problem:

Now one day the Emperor, tiring of long labors in theological disputes, and being unable to forge a compromise that united all parties, decided to write to Abba Hezekiah, thinking that the answer given by the saint might be the best hope for reconciling everyone. "You know of the arguments dividing us," the emperor wrote, "how one theologian says one thing, and another theologian the opposite, and many others mutiply the arguments continually. I have tried many years to help these men understand the truth, but to no avail. How can this be resolved? What should I do?"  Abba Hezekiah, upon reading the letter, immediately sent back a single line in response: "Stop getting in God's way."
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« Reply #20849 on: May 15, 2014, 02:32:30 PM »

Just awesome.

"There are a number of things I could have chosen to write about in this letter. I could have chosen to write about how Mr. John J Jingleheimer-Schmidt V is hell-bent on appropriating sacred symbols for fatuous purposes. Or I might have chosen to write something about the way that this is the precondition for my crusade against iniquitous Leninism. But, instead, I've decided to devote this entire letter to explaining how Mr. Jingleheimer-Schmidt fears nothing more than the exposure of his motives and activities. What follows is the story of how Mr. Jingleheimer-Schmidt can be so rich in the rhetoric of democracy and yet so poor in its implementation. I cannot emphasize enough how much I resent his policies.

If we don't turn random, senseless violence into meaningful action then Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt will feature simplistic answers to complex problems. This message has been brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness. What might not be so obvious, however, is that everybody is probably familiar with the cliche that Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt's cock-and-bull stories are colored and flavored to appeal to the worst kinds of atrabilious, blowsy malefactors I've ever seen. Well, there's a lot of truth in that cliche. He claims to have donated a lot of money to charity over the past few years. I suspect that the nullibicity of those donations would become apparent if one were to audit Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt's books—unless, of course, “charity” includes Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt-run organizations that marginalize and eventually even outlaw responsible critics of homophobic sciolists. In that case, I'd say that we live in a deeply troubled society. But there's the rub; even Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt's legates are afraid that Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt will bake us a cake of antinomianism, filled with fogyism and topped with a layer of corporatism as soon as our backs are turned. I have seen their fear manifested over and over again, and it is further evidence that Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt may have access to weapons of mass destruction. Then again, I consider him to be a weapon of mass destruction himself.

Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt will plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos long before he can convert me into one of his grunts. He hates you—yes, you, because you, like me, want to give him the severe tongue-lashing he deserves. Whenever anyone states the obvious—that he's cursed with the vice of pleonexia, of the urge to receive more than his fair share,—discussion naturally progresses towards the question, “How can he be so self-centered?” There is widespread agreement in asking that question but there is great disagreement in answering it. No matter how bad you think Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt's homilies are, I assure you that they are far, far worse than you think. Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt hates people who have huge supplies of the things he lacks. What he lacks the most is common sense, which underlies my point that we need to make Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt's crime-stained gibes understood, resisted, and made the object of deserved contempt by young and old alike. Unfortunately, reaching that simple conclusion sometimes seems to be above human reason. But there is a wisdom above human, and to that we must look if we are ever to analyze Mr. Jingleheimer-schmidt's denunciations in the manner of sociological studies of mass communication and persuasion. Now that you've read the bulk of this letter, it should not come as a complete surprise that it is easier for me to imagine a million-dimensional vector space than the number of inconsistencies in Mr. John J Jingleheimer-schmidt V's plans for the future. However, this fact bears repeating again and again, until the words crack through the hardened exteriors of those who would reap a whirlwind of destroyed marriages, damaged children, and, quite possibly, a globe-wide expression of incurable sexually transmitted diseases. I am referring, of course, to the likes of John J Jingleheimer-schmidt."


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« Reply #20850 on: May 16, 2014, 04:29:02 PM »

A girl in class accused me of being an "arrogant dandy". Now that's harsh. Then again, I probably deserved it.
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« Reply #20851 on: May 16, 2014, 04:31:30 PM »

This is how I picture you attending class.

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« Reply #20852 on: May 16, 2014, 04:32:12 PM »

The bad thing is, that's pretty close to the truth. However, I don't wear lipstick.
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« Reply #20853 on: May 16, 2014, 04:35:00 PM »

This is how we roll here in the good ol' US.

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« Reply #20854 on: May 16, 2014, 04:37:38 PM »

This is how we roll here in the good ol' US.



Suum cuique.

TBH, when she said that I was wearing something like this rather than Beau Brumell-style clothes.
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« Reply #20855 on: May 16, 2014, 04:38:31 PM »

I've been trying to get rid of too much dandyism lately. It's just that instead of normal now I look gay. I bought new jeans yesterday. They are so slim that they might fit to a 12 years old girl.
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« Reply #20856 on: May 16, 2014, 04:39:26 PM »

This is how we roll here in the good ol' US.



Suum cuique.

TBH, when she said that I was wearing something like this rather than Beau Brumell-style clothes.


Because thats so much better......Wink
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« Reply #20857 on: May 16, 2014, 04:40:04 PM »

I've been trying to get rid of too much dandyism lately. It's just that instead of normal now I look gay.

Alpo, you just don't know how to do it right.
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« Reply #20858 on: May 16, 2014, 04:45:27 PM »

I've been trying to get rid of too much dandyism lately. It's just that instead of normal now I look gay.

Alpo, you just don't know how to do it right.

Apparently not. I'm doomed to be an outcast.



I was just thinking of visiting Amsterdam the other day. My friend is studying there and I thought that maybe I should pay him a weekend visit.
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« Reply #20859 on: May 16, 2014, 04:51:04 PM »

I was just thinking of visiting Amsterdam the other day. My friend is studying there and I thought that maybe I should pay him a weekend visit.

Send me a pm when you're going. We could meet up and have a beer or two.
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« Reply #20860 on: May 16, 2014, 04:53:57 PM »

Or a gallon or two.
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« Reply #20861 on: May 16, 2014, 04:54:43 PM »

Or a gallon or two.

Now that's the spirit!
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« Reply #20862 on: May 17, 2014, 03:00:30 AM »

Anyone know where I can buy/order Swedish snus in California for a cheap price? I tried ordering some Olde Ving Coffee-flavored snus from Sweden but shipping was $30 Sad
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« Reply #20863 on: May 17, 2014, 03:42:20 AM »

Coffee-flavored snus? Heresy.

Some random website:
http://www.snusdistribution.com/where_to_buy.php
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« Reply #20864 on: May 17, 2014, 11:23:16 AM »

I've heard that Copenhagen has a lot of flavor, and also drives the pretty girls wild. Maybe you should start there?
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« Reply #20865 on: May 17, 2014, 02:53:21 PM »

I've heard that Copenhagen has a lot of flavor, and also drives the pretty girls wild. Maybe you should start there?

I'm suspicious about who tells you such things. Wink
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« Reply #20866 on: May 18, 2014, 01:13:20 AM »

Stink. Stank. Stunk.
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« Reply #20867 on: May 18, 2014, 03:17:05 PM »

Anyone else hungry for some potatoes?
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« Reply #20868 on: May 18, 2014, 03:18:24 PM »

Anyone else hungry for some potatoes?

Maybe. How will they be prepared?
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« Reply #20869 on: May 18, 2014, 03:24:39 PM »

I looked and all I had were some frozen crinkle cut fries  Cry
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I looked and all I had were some frozen crinkle cut fries  Cry



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« Reply #20871 on: May 18, 2014, 05:01:29 PM »

I was on a cruise this weekend....and the best overheard line ever...


*lady talking on phone to someone off ship*

'So we went to Mass onboard to start the cruise off right.  As soon as the casino opens, we are going there'


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« Reply #20872 on: May 18, 2014, 05:06:02 PM »

I looked and all I had were some frozen crinkle cut fries  Cry



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« Reply #20873 on: May 18, 2014, 06:30:39 PM »

I was on a cruise this weekend....and the best overheard line ever...


*lady talking on phone to someone off ship*

'So we went to Mass onboard to start the cruise off right.  As soon as the casino opens, we are going there'


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« Reply #20874 on: May 18, 2014, 07:26:15 PM »

Stink. Stank. Stunk.
Think. Thank. Thunk.
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« Reply #20875 on: May 21, 2014, 06:06:29 PM »

Dear stink bug,

It is true that I do not want you in my apartment, but I'm trying to catch you so I can let you go outside. I'm not going to kill you, I promise! Please cooperate!

Justin
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« Reply #20876 on: May 21, 2014, 10:10:41 PM »

I really want a pair of heart-shaped sunglasses.
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« Reply #20877 on: May 21, 2014, 11:54:34 PM »

Justin/Asteriktos, your screen name change is really throwing me off. I'm reading threads like, "Who is this prolific new guy?"
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« Reply #20878 on: May 21, 2014, 11:57:18 PM »

Justin/Asteriktos, your screen name change is really throwing me off. I'm reading threads like, "Who is this prolific new guy?"

Yeah I don't like it either.

"Justin," we've voted - you're going back to your old name. Hope you don't mind.
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« Reply #20879 on: May 22, 2014, 12:54:35 AM »

If you strike my name down, I shall get a new one that is more complicated than you can possibly imagine.

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