Random Postings

[GiC]

(just thought i'd let everyone know). 

LOL...working on the randomness factor are we

[serb1389]

Your vision and intuition are truly amazing! 

You never cease to amaze me. 

I'm sending you a PM.  Just thought i'd let you know, in case the web-site forgets to...

Randomness is awesome.  I wish I could be random at school...this semester is gona be aweful.  I officially hate Grad-School.   

[Ebor]

Randomness is awesome. 

"Practice random intelligence and senseless acts of self-control"

"The generation of random numbers is much too important to be left to chance"

 

Ebor

[Fr. George]

49 73 20 74 68 69 73 20 72 61 6e 64 6f 6d 20 65 6e 6f 75 67 68 20 66 6f 72 20 65 76 65 72 79 6f 6e 65 3f

(To translate from Hex: http://www.paulschou.com/tools/xlate/)

[serb1389]

I know GiC is gona kill me for this,

But, I HATE NUMBERS!!!!!  Numbers suck.  I'm not a big fan. 

Eh...to each his own.   

[Ebor]

"In mathematics, we don't understand things--we just get used to them"

2+2=5, for moderately large values of two


Ebor

[John of the North]

"Everything is numbers" - Charlie Eppes

That said, I agree with Serb, so I guess I hate everything.

[GiC]

I know GiC is gona kill me for this,

But, I HATE NUMBERS!!!!!  Numbers suck.  I'm not a big fan. 

Eh...to each his own.   

Well, in the words of Pythagoras, 'All is Number.'

[GiC]

"In mathematics, we don't understand things--we just get used to them"

2+2=5, for moderately large values of two


Ebor

'Mathematics is the only science where one never knows what one is talking about nor whether what is said is true' -- Bertrand Russell

and yet, it is the only discipline that, were we to wake up tomorrow, and all the world, all the universe, and all that ever was were to be gone...would still be just as valid as the previous day.

[Cephas]

+ Irini nem ehmot,

This actually made me laugh:

Black holes result from God dividing the universe by zero.  ~Author Unknown

[admiralnick]

There are 10 types of people, those who know binary and those who don't.

-Nick

[Fr. George]

There are 10 types of people, those who know binary and those who don't.

-Nick

Would you make the 11 person, or the 01001110 who has said that joke?

- The De-Rust-ified one.

[GiC]

There are 10 types of people, those who know binary and those who don't.

-Nick

I have the tee shirt...lol.

[GiC]

The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed.  Our authority is Isaiah 30:26, "Moreover, the light of the Moon shall be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days."  Thus Heaven receives from the Moon as much radiation as we do from the Sun, and in addition 7*7 (49) times as much as the Earth does from the Sun, or 50 times in all.  The light we receive from the Moon is one 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the Sun, so we can ignore that....  The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation.  Using the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation, (H/E) temperature of the earth (-300K), gives H as 798K (525C).  The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed....  [However] Revelations 21:8 says "But the fearful, and unbelieving...shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone."  A lake of molten brimstone means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, 444.6C.  We have, then, that Heaven, at 525C is hotter than Hell at 445C.  ~From Applied Optics, vol. 11, A14, 1972

[serb1389]

Wow, i'm thoroughly confused now.   

[Fr. George]

The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed.  Our authority is Isaiah 30:26, "Moreover, the light of the Moon shall be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days."  Thus Heaven receives from the Moon as much radiation as we do from the Sun, and in addition 7*7 (49) times as much as the Earth does from the Sun, or 50 times in all.  The light we receive from the Moon is one 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the Sun, so we can ignore that....  The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation.  Using the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation, (H/E) temperature of the earth (-300K), gives H as 798K (525C).  The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed....  [However] Revelations 21:8 says "But the fearful, and unbelieving...shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone."  A lake of molten brimstone means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, 444.6C.  We have, then, that Heaven, at 525C is hotter than Hell at 445C.  ~From Applied Optics, vol. 11, A14, 1972

Even if the lake's temperature is around 445, isn't it possible that the surrounding air is hotter, in order to facilitate the combustion of molten brimstone?

[GiC]

Even if the lake's temperature is around 445, isn't it possible that the surrounding air is hotter, in order to facilitate the combustion of molten brimstone?

It can't be substantially warmer, or even warmer at all for any prolonged period of time, for 445 is the boiling point of brimstone, a hotter temperature would vaporize the brimstone and it would be a brimstone vapor, rather than molten brimstone...thus 445 has to be established as a maximum temperature for hell. It also has a melting point of 112.8°C, so for it to be molten, we can establish that as a minimum temperature.

[Fr. George]

It can't be substantially warmer, or even warmer at all for any prolonged period of time, for 445 is the boiling point of brimstone, a hotter temperature would vaporize the brimstone and it would be a brimstone vapor, rather than molten brimstone...thus 445 has to be established as a maximum temperature for hell. It also has a melting point of 112.8°C, so for it to be molten, we can establish that as a minimum temperature.

So what conditions would need to be present in the surrounding air to support the flaming combusion of the brimstone?

[serb1389]

I can't believe this conversation is actually happening. 

Just thought i'd put that in there. 

Actually, since it totally fits with the randomness...I will allow it.   

[GiC]

So what conditions would need to be present in the surrounding air to support the flaming combusion of the brimstone?

It must be heated to a gaseous state and, of course, in the presence of oxygen, combustion of sulfur generally begins around 500 degrees C.

[Fr. George]

It must be heated to a gaseous state and, of course, in the presence of oxygen, combustion of sulfur generally begins around 500 degrees C.

Well, these conditions then must be temporarily present in the environment, considering the account referrs to it as a lake of Fire and Brimstone, no?

[GiC]

Well, these conditions then must be temporarily present in the environment, considering the account referrs to it as a lake of Fire and Brimstone, no?

Assuming brimstone is the only combustible present, the problem with these conditions being present in the environment is that it would eventually combust all the brimstone present. It would make more sense if there was another combustible present...maybe propane or butane or even a petroleum byproduct...which combusts at a temperature where brimstone can still remain in a liquid state.

[Fr. George]

Assuming brimstone is the only combustible present, the problem with these conditions being present in the environment is that it would eventually combust all the brimstone present. It would make more sense if there was another combustible present...maybe propane or butane or even a petroleum byproduct...which combusts at a temperature where brimstone can still remain in a liquid state.

Well, assuming that it isn't Propane or Butane (which would make the combustion more common in other areas, thus making it unnecessary to call it a lake of fire and brimstone as the fire would be present in plenty of other places), then maybe we can assume that there is a source of a petrol product that oozes it over the surface of the lake - the lake's molten temperature would give enough heat to the petroleum byproduct to combustion without consuming much of the lake's material.

[FrChris]

It must be heated to a gaseous state and, of course, in the presence of oxygen, combustion of sulfur generally begins around 500 degrees C.

As a former fire engineer, I would like to point out that oxygen is not needed as much as an oxidizing agent. While O2 is most common in our world, other materials can function as an oxidizer to sustain the redox reaction in combustion...

For a truly hellish environment, consider any of the Halogen gases as your oxidizer, and in particular Fluorine...muhahaha!

[Fr. George]

As a former fire engineer, I would like to point out that oxygen is not needed as much as an oxidizing agent. While O2 is most common in our world, other materials can function as an oxidizer to sustain the redox reaction in combustion...

For a truly hellish environment, consider any of the Halogen gases as your oxidizer, and in particular Fluorine...muhahaha!

Would the increased temperature (and, thus, energy release) of the Flourine combusion increase the energy enough to lead to fusion of the Sulfur?  Its enthalpy of Fusion is 1.727 kJ/mol at the melting point, which we've kinda agreed is probably close to where the molten mass is...

[GiC]

As a former fire engineer, I would like to point out that oxygen is not needed as much as an oxidizing agent. While O2 is most common in our world, other materials can function as an oxidizer to sustain the redox reaction in combustion...

For a truly hellish environment, consider any of the Halogen gases as your oxidizer, and in particular Fluorine...muhahaha!

Very true, I betray my geocentric bias.

[GiC]

Would the increased temperature (and, thus, energy release) of the Flourine combusion increase the energy enough to lead to fusion of the Sulfur?  Its enthalpy of Fusion is 1.727 kJ/mol at the melting point, which we've kinda agreed is probably close to where the molten mass is...

Energy at those levels can only be generated from other nuclear reactions and, as far as we know, only from other fusion reactions of materials with a lower enthalpy of Fusion.

[Fr. George]

Energy at those levels can only be generated from other nuclear reactions and, as far as we know, only from other fusion reactions of materials with a lower enthalpy of Fusion.

True, true... Of course, we shouldn't speculate as to whether or not these other fusions are occuring in Hell, considering the extreme temperature there just to facilitate the lake of fire and brimstone   As for other nuclear reactions, I don't know - does hell have The Bomb?  Reactors?

[GiC]

True, true... Of course, we shouldn't speculate as to whether or not these other fusions are occuring in Hell, considering the extreme temperature there just to facilitate the lake of fire and brimstone   As for other nuclear reactions, I don't know - does hell have The Bomb?  Reactors?

Surely not...I thought it was the absence of nuclear weapons and nuclear warfare that made hell, well, hell.

[AMM]

Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground,
You in mid-air.
Send in the clowns.

Isn't it bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around,
One who can't move.
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns.

Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours,
Making my entrance again with my usual flair,
Sure of my lines,
No one is there.

Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother, they're here.

Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer,
Losing my timing this late
In my career?
And where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns.
Well, maybe next year.

[John of the North]

ROFL to the caption in ozgeorge's current avatar: "Honk 40 times if you are Orthodox."

[serb1389]

Boy was that random Postolowka. 

Just though i'd let you know that you're doing a great job.  haha.   

[John of the North]

Thank you, I do try.

The longest word in the English language is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

On average, 100 people choke to death on ballpoint pens every year.

The average person spends 30 years mad at a family member

There are 293 ways to make change for a dollar.

[serb1389]

I knew about the longest word.  Its nice to see it up in print though.  Did you copy and paste?  Just curious. 

The other ones were new to me!  Very exciting stuff. 

So how's everyone doing these days huh?

[John of the North]

Yeah, I just copied and pasted, lol. I practiced saying it a couple of times.

I am excellent.

Second semester university is better than the first.  Ditched the math courses.  English, German, Religious Studies (Intro to Judaism) and History (Early Modern World). I thought it would be a lighter schedule but it just has less homework, more readings and writing assignments.

Work is OK.  They offered to train me at the Customer Service desk and I said yes. That is a mistake I will truly regret in about a month haha.

Leeds United (my favourite soccer team for those living under a rock and who haven't been reading the 'Sports Thread') are doing horrible in real life....second-from-bottom of the Championship.  I have wiped away my tears and subjected myself to massive doses of the demo for Football Manager 2007. Leeds United are currently 1st in the Championship under my guidance, on an eight game unbeaten run.

Me thinks we need a thread on personal updates such as this.  Or at least a thread where I can regale everyone of why I should be the Leeds manager in real life.

[Carpatho Russian]

"Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
That's it!"

I'll take a S500 4matic, thank you.

[ozgeorge]

I'll take a S500 4matic, thank you.

Last year, while working with staff at a hospital where I was looking at problems with the workplace culture, as a test, I submitted one of their "Request Forms" asking for an Audi TT. The request appeared on the computer ordering program, and was actually approved at three levels of committees, until I got a reply back from the fourth level committee which stated that I had not completed the form properly, because I had not put anything in the "Intended Purpose of Requested Item/s" Section. So I filled in the section with the words "For swanning around the Mountain Villages". It's been 7 months and I haven't heard anything, but my request is still being processed by the ordering program, and people still tell me it comes up in different committee meetings!

[Carpatho Russian]

George,
Put in a request for me for the Mercedes.  If they are still processing your request for the Audi, they may never realize I don't work for the hospital and give it to me!  I'll let you drive it (occasionally)!
Thanks,
CR

[serb1389]

Yeah, I just copied and pasted, lol. I practiced saying it a couple of times.

I am excellent.

Second semester university is better than the first.  Ditched the math courses.  English, German, Religious Studies (Intro to Judaism) and History (Early Modern World). I thought it would be a lighter schedule but it just has less homework, more readings and writing assignments.

Work is OK.  They offered to train me at the Customer Service desk and I said yes. That is a mistake I will truly regret in about a month haha.

Leeds United (my favourite soccer team for those living under a rock and who haven't been reading the 'Sports Thread') are doing horrible in real life....second-from-bottom of the Championship.  I have wiped away my tears and subjected myself to massive doses of the demo for Football Manager 2007. Leeds United are currently 1st in the Championship under my guidance, on an eight game unbeaten run.

Me thinks we need a thread on personal updates such as this.  Or at least a thread where I can regale everyone of why I should be the Leeds manager in real life.

Thanks for the answer!! 

How's German going?  I took it myself for 4 years in High School and did a study abroad in Austria (Vienna) so I am definately a big fan of the language.  If you even want to "converse" maybe we can start a thread in the "foreign language" section. 

[John of the North]

Well, I did three years of German in high school....before that I had no prior experience.

I took German 30 and 31 my last year (31 is considered to be university level German). I averaged around 92% through all four courses in high school.

To be honest, German at university leaves much to be desired. I took my first course last semester and another course this semester (same prof). German is my minor.

In fact, I would have taken the University's course on Eastern Orthodoxy except I wanted the same German prof and the two courses  were the same time slot. Alas, next year....

German right now is very much a case of review and listening practice.  There is little reading component to the course and its two textbooks right now, its mainly oral and listening practice. And mindless grammar exercises...

That said I love the language, and I won't ever stop speaking it. I also keep remembering the recording I listened to in high school of the monks chanting "Vater Unser" Shivers down my spine.

[Cephas]

+ Irini nem ehmot,

ROFL to the caption in ozgeorge's current avatar: "Honk 40 times if you are Orthodox."

Shouldn't it be 41 times?

[scamandrius]

Well, I did three years of German in high school....before that I had no prior experience.

 German is my minor.

That said I love the language, and I won't ever stop speaking it.

I've spent my life learning languages of all sorts.  My specialty is dead langauges, Latin, ancient Greek, Hebrew, etc.  German, I simply don't get!  It makes no sense to me.  After reading your post, I'm wondering what am I doing wrong?!  I'm happy you enjoy it and that you obviously love it, but why can't I?  Aargh!

Scamandrius

[John of the North]

Herr Everitt was the best teacher in the world....that is pretty why I am not a fan of University German.

He made high school fun....he made sure you learned the language.  In class we watched German movies, German contemporary music, classical music....the whole gamut.

I tend to specialize in conlangs, dabbling in Esperanto, Quenya, Klingon etc.

"Vater Unser, der Du in Himmel bist,
Dein Reich komme..."

[serb1389]

My High School german teacher was excellent also.  That's why I ever even became profficient in it.  If I hadn't had him I would have never been able to go abroad and study in Austria. 

The program there was amazing as well.  Pretty grammar intensive all around, but hey, its German!     (Verb am ende!!  )

I've heard many people say that their College German programs suck.  I wonder why the quality diminishes after High School? 

University of Wisconsin, Madison has the best German program in the country.  If you're anywhere near it I suggest taking at least 1 class there.  I was going to go there before I went to seminary. 

[Panagiotis]

Herr Everitt was the best teacher in the world....that is pretty why I am not a fan of University German.

He made high school fun....he made sure you learned the language.  In class we watched German movies, German contemporary music, classical music....the whole gamut.

I tend to specialize in conlangs, dabbling in Esperanto, Quenya, Klingon etc.

"Vater Unser, der Du in Himmel bist,
Dein Reich komme..."

Ever check out Ladino? Its Yiddish for the Mediterranean.

Panagiotis

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