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« Reply #17910 on: October 12, 2013, 04:07:28 AM »
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« Reply #17911 on: October 12, 2013, 10:08:09 AM »
Dear all,

I have a serious linguistic problem.

Is it anyhow common among native English-speakers to write sentences without subject? I'm not referring to passives but rather to sentences where I am the subject.

My brains are trying to tell me that it is grammatically incorrect but for some reason it doesn't sound wrong.
Can you give me an example?  It is Saturday morning and my brain isn't thinking properly.
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« Reply #17912 on: October 12, 2013, 10:09:35 AM »
Dear all,

I have a serious linguistic problem.

Is it anyhow common among native English-speakers to write sentences without subject? I'm not referring to passives but rather to sentences where I am the subject.

My brains are trying to tell me that it is grammatically incorrect but for some reason it doesn't sound wrong.
Will have to get back to you later on this one.

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« Reply #17913 on: October 12, 2013, 10:46:48 AM »
Is it anyhow common among native English-speakers to write sentences without subject? I'm not referring to passives but rather to sentences where I am the subject.

My brains are trying to tell me that it is grammatically incorrect but for some reason it doesn't sound wrong.

If you have an example, that would be helpful. 

To my knowledge (I never studied grammar further than what the nuns taught me), it would be grammatically incorrect most of the time.  Colloquially, I might look over at a friend as I leave the apartment and say "Going to the store."  Since I am saying it, and I'm the one in the act of leaving, it would be presumed that I'm the subject, so it would make sense.  But if my friend was the one leaving, I could say the exact same words as a question "Going to the store?" and again the subject would be implied.  In both cases, however, I don't think it's grammatically correct. 

On the other hand, commands can be given without a subject, and they are grammatically correct.  So, "Go to the store!" or even "Go!" are perfectly acceptable as complete sentences.   
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« Reply #17914 on: October 12, 2013, 10:56:19 AM »
Is it anyhow common among native English-speakers to write sentences without subject? I'm not referring to passives but rather to sentences where I am the subject.

My brains are trying to tell me that it is grammatically incorrect but for some reason it doesn't sound wrong.

If you have an example, that would be helpful. 

To my knowledge (I never studied grammar further than what the nuns taught me), it would be grammatically incorrect most of the time.  Colloquially, I might look over at a friend as I leave the apartment and say "Going to the store."  Since I am saying it, and I'm the one in the act of leaving, it would be presumed that I'm the subject, so it would make sense.  But if my friend was the one leaving, I could say the exact same words as a question "Going to the store?" and again the subject would be implied.  In both cases, however, I don't think it's grammatically correct. 

On the other hand, commands can be given without a subject, and they are grammatically correct.  So, "Go to the store!" or even "Go!" are perfectly acceptable as complete sentences.   
Going to differ with you a bit on this. Your examples (and my opening sentence) fit the rules (i.e. grammar) of colloquial English. However, you are correct if you mean, and I expect you do, that they do not fit the rules of literary English. It's a bit like the clothing we wear: what is appropriate and correct for the beach is not appropriate and correct for a formal dinner (I wanted to say "church", but we've had that discussion a bit too often lately  ;D).

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« Reply #17915 on: October 12, 2013, 10:57:11 AM »
Is it anyhow common among native English-speakers to write sentences without subject? I'm not referring to passives but rather to sentences where I am the subject.

My brains are trying to tell me that it is grammatically incorrect but for some reason it doesn't sound wrong.

If you have an example, that would be helpful. 

To my knowledge (I never studied grammar further than what the nuns taught me), it would be grammatically incorrect most of the time.  Colloquially, I might look over at a friend as I leave the apartment and say "Going to the store."  Since I am saying it, and I'm the one in the act of leaving, it would be presumed that I'm the subject, so it would make sense.  But if my friend was the one leaving, I could say the exact same words as a question "Going to the store?" and again the subject would be implied.  In both cases, however, I don't think it's grammatically correct. 

On the other hand, commands can be given without a subject, and they are grammatically correct.  So, "Go to the store!" or even "Go!" are perfectly acceptable as complete sentences.   
I'm not sure if it's proper English, or just a personal thing due to my french, but the interrogative is correct if you raise your voice at the end. so, going to the stORE?

Either way, if they arent by the book correct, no one will look at you funny if you do. Just like my old french (from around paris) teacher that used texter instead of envoyer une message SMS, both meaning to text.

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« Reply #17916 on: October 12, 2013, 11:07:17 AM »
Just like my old french (from around paris) teacher that used texter instead of envoyer une message SMS, both meaning to text.
In Québec, texter is correct and official - a fact which actually surprises me somewhat as the Office québécois de la langue française usually abhors anglicisms.

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« Reply #17917 on: October 12, 2013, 12:10:24 PM »
Going to differ with you a bit on this. Your examples (and my opening sentence) fit the rules (i.e. grammar) of colloquial English. However, you are correct if you mean, and I expect you do, that they do not fit the rules of literary English. It's a bit like the clothing we wear: what is appropriate and correct for the beach is not appropriate and correct for a formal dinner (I wanted to say "church", but we've had that discussion a bit too often lately  ;D).

You understood my point.  :) 
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« Reply #17918 on: October 12, 2013, 04:49:38 PM »
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« Reply #17919 on: October 13, 2013, 03:20:38 AM »
For my 5,000th post I simply say, "Meh."

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« Reply #17920 on: October 13, 2013, 11:35:13 AM »
It seems that I should trust my instincts when it comes to English language. Never had much use for spoken English in real life so I'm not really sure what's colloquialism and what's basically just incorrect grammar.
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« Reply #17921 on: October 13, 2013, 02:05:07 PM »
It seems that I should trust my instincts when it comes to English language. Never had much use for spoken English in real life so I'm not really sure what's colloquialism and what's basically just incorrect grammar.

You sound like your a native English speaker then.
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« Reply #17922 on: October 13, 2013, 02:19:14 PM »
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« Reply #17923 on: October 13, 2013, 02:21:21 PM »
It seems that I should trust my instincts when it comes to English language. Never had much use for spoken English in real life so I'm not really sure what's colloquialism and what's basically just incorrect grammar.

You sound like your a native English speaker then.

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« Reply #17924 on: October 14, 2013, 02:23:13 AM »


That cop rules.
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« Reply #17925 on: October 14, 2013, 02:29:19 AM »


Memories of middle school flood me.
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« Reply #17926 on: October 14, 2013, 02:31:58 AM »
From the 90s



Oh my yes.

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« Reply #17927 on: October 14, 2013, 05:26:54 PM »
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« Reply #17928 on: October 14, 2013, 05:30:03 PM »
(Old-timer speak)

This thread began as a count-down to 100,000 posts; in fact, the high posting volume in this thread helped us get "over the hump" faster than what we were on pace for. 

We're now within striking distance of 1,000,000 posts.  Less than 300 posts to go (less than a day's work).

That's all.
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« Reply #17929 on: October 14, 2013, 05:47:38 PM »
What do we get when we hit the one million mark?  Please say it's a plenary indulgence, pretty please with hot fudge and a fresh cherry on top. 
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« Reply #17930 on: October 14, 2013, 05:49:06 PM »
What do we get when we hit the one million mark?  Please say it's a plenary indulgence, pretty please with hot fudge and a fresh cherry on top. 

Can I even do that?  You're the one "laying claim to the Phanar!"  Or is your claim more of a property lien than an ecclesiastical dispute?
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« Reply #17931 on: October 14, 2013, 05:50:51 PM »
Can I even do that?  You're the one "laying claim to the Phanar!"  Or is your claim more of a property lien than an ecclesiastical dispute?

I'm pretty sure there's a canon preventing me from exercising ministry in your canonical territory without your permission.  But if you allow me, EVERYONE GETS A PLENARY INDULGENCE! 
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« Reply #17932 on: October 14, 2013, 05:52:58 PM »
Can I even do that?  You're the one "laying claim to the Phanar!"  Or is your claim more of a property lien than an ecclesiastical dispute?

I'm pretty sure there's a canon preventing me from exercising ministry in your canonical territory without your permission.  But if you allow me, EVERYONE GETS A PLENARY INDULGENCE!   

I'm glad you're willing to grant us less time in a place we don't even believe exists!  Greater men offer so much less!
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« Reply #17933 on: October 14, 2013, 05:54:31 PM »
I'm glad you're willing to grant us less time in a place we don't even believe exists!  Greater men offer so much less!

Speaking of things we don't even believe exist...greater men than I? 
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« Reply #17934 on: October 14, 2013, 06:06:05 PM »
I'm glad you're willing to grant us less time in a place we don't even believe exists!  Greater men offer so much less!

Speaking of things we don't even believe exist...greater men than I? 

I prostrate before you and beg your forgiveness.

(Yes, almost wrote "I prostate before you," which would be a major problem.)
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« Reply #17935 on: October 14, 2013, 06:10:05 PM »
(Yes, almost wrote "I prostate before you," which would be a major problem.)

You have no idea how many times I've almost made that mistake.  What the heck!  :P
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« Reply #17936 on: October 14, 2013, 06:13:14 PM »
(Yes, almost wrote "I prostate before you," which would be a major problem.)

You have no idea how many times I've almost made that mistake.  What the heck!  :P

I've got 3-4 replies that jumped off the tongue when I read this, but none are forum appropriate.
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« Reply #17937 on: October 14, 2013, 06:42:12 PM »
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« Reply #17938 on: October 14, 2013, 07:56:58 PM »
we now have less than 100 posts left until 1 million

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« Reply #17939 on: October 14, 2013, 08:58:00 PM »
we now have less than 100 posts left until 1 million

It's exciting!

(OK, I need to get a life.)
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« Reply #17940 on: October 14, 2013, 10:06:50 PM »
With this post, there are 40 left until 1M.
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« Reply #17941 on: October 14, 2013, 10:08:56 PM »
Is there a prize for the millionth post? :)
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« Reply #17942 on: October 14, 2013, 10:11:29 PM »
Nope.  (I wish we had it in the budget)
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« Reply #17943 on: October 14, 2013, 10:35:44 PM »
5 posts left!
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« Reply #17944 on: October 15, 2013, 03:48:58 AM »
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« Reply #17945 on: October 15, 2013, 03:53:13 AM »


Memories of middle school flood me.

That actually happened to me once, but her dad was surprisingly a nice guy. He was this lazy old retired German guy married to a Filipina and the girl was their only child. He liked tobacco.
...Or it's just possible he's a mouthy young man on an internet forum.
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« Reply #17946 on: October 15, 2013, 09:33:00 AM »
My friend, who is in his late twenties, just realized his dad dips tobacco.  He thought the ubiquitous can in his dad's back pocket was shoe polish he always carried around.
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« Reply #17947 on: October 15, 2013, 09:34:21 AM »
My friend, who is in his late twenties, just realized his dad dips tobacco.  He thought the ubiquitous can in his dad's back pocket was shoe polish he always carried around.
And also chewed bubble gum and spit alot?  :laugh:
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« Reply #17948 on: October 15, 2013, 09:35:28 AM »
My friend, who is in his late twenties, just realized his dad dips tobacco.  He thought the ubiquitous can in his dad's back pocket was shoe polish he always carried around.
And also chewed bubble gum and spit alot?  :laugh:

Apparently.  It was actually quite funny when it dawned on him.
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« Reply #17949 on: October 15, 2013, 09:35:55 AM »
Achronos, were you that redhead girl in front of me in yesterday's class? She was looking at exactly the same memes.
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« Reply #17951 on: October 15, 2013, 02:00:58 PM »
http://www.boredpanda.org/15th-century-flemish-style-portraits-recreated-in-the-airplane-lavatory/

You Dutch people are crazy.

The artist is American and she has an Armenian name, Nina Katchadourian. And the paintings that inspired her are Flemish, which is to say Belgian...
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #17952 on: October 15, 2013, 02:11:32 PM »
Achronos, were you that redhead girl in front of me in yesterday's class? She was looking at exactly the same memes.
As I found out recently, I think we can't just sweep the various tones of red under the redhead umbrella.

Was she a strawberry beige?

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #17953 on: October 15, 2013, 02:16:58 PM »
http://www.boredpanda.org/15th-century-flemish-style-portraits-recreated-in-the-airplane-lavatory/

You Dutch people are crazy.

The artist is American and has an Armenian name, Nina Katchadourian. And the paintings that inspired her are Flemish, which is to say Belgian...

Belgians are Sudetendutch.

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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #17954 on: October 15, 2013, 02:19:46 PM »
http://www.boredpanda.org/15th-century-flemish-style-portraits-recreated-in-the-airplane-lavatory/

You Dutch people are crazy.

The artist is American and has an Armenian name, Nina Katchadourian. And the paintings that inspired her are Flemish, which is to say Belgian...

Belgians are Sudetendutch.

I somehow doubt that the Walloons would agree with you.