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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #17775 on: October 09, 2013, 08:49:04 PM »
Grammatical gender is a stupid idea, and I'm glad English ditched it when it did.
there is no gender, besides grammatical gender :-p

and english still has a little bit of it.

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« Reply #17776 on: October 09, 2013, 09:10:46 PM »
Grammatical gender is a stupid idea, and I'm glad English ditched it when it did.

It creates syntactic stagnation.
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« Reply #17777 on: October 09, 2013, 10:13:11 PM »
Grammatical gender is a stupid idea, and I'm glad English ditched it when it did.

It creates syntactic stagnation.

Grammatical gender creates syntactic stagnation? Where did you get that from?

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« Reply #17778 on: October 10, 2013, 12:02:00 AM »
Grammatical gender is a stupid idea, and I'm glad English ditched it when it did.

It creates syntactic stagnation.

Grammatical gender creates syntactic stagnation? Where did you get that from?

Ditching it does.
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« Reply #17779 on: October 10, 2013, 12:29:56 AM »
Grammatical gender is a stupid idea, and I'm glad English ditched it when it did.

It creates syntactic stagnation.

Grammatical gender creates syntactic stagnation? Where did you get that from?

Ditching it does.

Hm OK. I'm not sure that's actually true.

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« Reply #17780 on: October 10, 2013, 12:51:41 AM »
Grammatical gender is a stupid idea, and I'm glad English ditched it when it did.

It creates syntactic stagnation.

Grammatical gender creates syntactic stagnation? Where did you get that from?

Ditching it does.

Hm OK. I'm not sure that's actually true.

It is and it isn't, depending on sophisticated a user of language in non-gendered IE language you are.

English, which we both use is structured as such:

Subject Predicate

Of course we can have introductory clauses and if you a non-standard English speaker like myself, then you can toss objects before the subject, but this is for effect and affect and uncommon.

Once you can have gender (and declination) you have more freedom in how to structure your sentences, which is what I am dumbly calling syntax.

The old saw is the following:

Man bites dog.

Der Mann beisst den Hund.

Den Hund beisst der Mann.

Dog bites man.

The first three sentences "mean" the same thing. The fourth says something else.

Toss in cases which tend to disappear (again a stupid rule here, Jeremy can speak more to this) with gender and you have even greater syntactic "stagnation".

As a Latinist, that is one the crazy things about Classical Latin is the incredible permutations of a string of words one can use to say something.

And if you believe the USAF, who train all the bulk of our language analysts, they would tell you that folks have an easier time going form the language with genders and strong case structure to those which do not have them.

So a Polish speaker is going to get to a greater degree of fluency in English than vice versa all things being the same. The syntax is easy. But then again as syntax becomes more inflexible for reasons arguably due to socio-political reasons, the lexicon tends to grow, which is likely the most difficult part of English for most ESLer once they get some grounding in the language.

Hence a lot of "semantic" stylistics in English which makes no sense to other folks where "syntactic" stylistics are emphasized. I remembered having to get English speakers over their fear of using the same German words over and over in their writing rather than banging their heads for something to break up the monotony. And having to explain to Germans that using 100 words to write an essay doesn't fly in English. Then there were the paragraph (syntax) which really are just very haphazard in most other languages I read when compared to standard English writing.

Anyway that is a bunch of pseduoBS, but its true.

Frankly I don't understand the fluency of Isa even though he's been here for a while, not to mention Cyrillic or Romaios. No accounting for genius I guess.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #17781 on: October 10, 2013, 01:00:30 AM »



And if you believe the USAF, who train all the bulk of our language analysts, they would tell you that folks have an easier time going form the language with genders and strong case structure to those which do not have them.


If you mean the DLI, I would argue that they train -speakers and understanders- of languages, not 'analysts' at all. 

I have spoken to many military 'linguists' and finding a common starting point for them to understand that an actual 'linguist' is a totally different animal, is sometimes an impossible task.


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« Reply #17782 on: October 10, 2013, 01:19:17 AM »



And if you believe the USAF, who train all the bulk of our language analysts, they would tell you that folks have an easier time going form the language with genders and strong case structure to those which do not have them.


If you mean the DLI, I would argue that they train -speakers and understanders- of languages, not 'analysts' at all.  

I have spoken to many military 'linguists' and finding a common starting point for them to understand that an actual 'linguist' is a totally different animal, is sometimes an impossible task.



Uhhh, analyst here means what you said. Speakers and understanders. Those who do intelligence analysis in the language they are able to show proficiency in. I watched a kid go from no Arabic or Mandarin within a few years to having enough regional and dialect fluency to enter the field as needed.
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« Reply #17783 on: October 10, 2013, 01:21:44 AM »
Ahhhh. So by "syntactic stagnation" you basically mean fixed word order (I thought you meant that syntactic change simply stopped).

I don't think it's the loss of grammatical gender that's correlated with increasingly rigid word order, but loss of case inflection. If you can't determine the syntactic category (e.g. subject, object) of a word by its morphology (e.g. its ending), you need to work it out from its position in the sentence. I don't actually know what tends to come first: fixation of word order or loss of case inflection

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« Reply #17784 on: October 10, 2013, 01:22:16 AM »



And if you believe the USAF, who train all the bulk of our language analysts, they would tell you that folks have an easier time going form the language with genders and strong case structure to those which do not have them.


If you mean the DLI, I would argue that they train -speakers and understanders- of languages, not 'analysts' at all.  

I have spoken to many military 'linguists' and finding a common starting point for them to understand that an actual 'linguist' is a totally different animal, is sometimes an impossible task.



Uhhh, analyst here means what you said. Speakers and understanders. Those who do intelligence analysis in the language they are able to show proficiency in. I watched a kid go from no Arabic or Mandarin within a few years to having enough regional and dialect fluency to enter the field as needed.

My point about the USAF's stance on how languages relate to one another rests on how effective they are in training those "speakers and understanders". They aren't lightweights there developing the program.
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« Reply #17785 on: October 10, 2013, 01:24:18 AM »
Ahhhh. So by "syntactic stagnation" you basically mean fixed word order (I thought you meant that syntactic change simply stopped).

I don't think it's the loss of grammatical gender that's correlated with increasingly rigid word order, but loss of case inflection. If you can't determine the syntactic category (e.g. subject, object) of a word by its morphology (e.g. its ending), you need to work it out from its position in the sentence. I don't actually know what tends to come first: fixation of word order or loss of case inflection

They do tend to go together loss of case and gender. I do agree with your point that case is a greater driver of fixed word order.

Jeremy should be able to make some more precise comments here.
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« Reply #17786 on: October 10, 2013, 01:31:39 AM »



And if you believe the USAF, who train all the bulk of our language analysts, they would tell you that folks have an easier time going form the language with genders and strong case structure to those which do not have them.


If you mean the DLI, I would argue that they train -speakers and understanders- of languages, not 'analysts' at all.  

I have spoken to many military 'linguists' and finding a common starting point for them to understand that an actual 'linguist' is a totally different animal, is sometimes an impossible task.



Uhhh, analyst here means what you said. Speakers and understanders. Those who do intelligence analysis in the language they are able to show proficiency in. I watched a kid go from no Arabic or Mandarin within a few years to having enough regional and dialect fluency to enter the field as needed.


see to a Linguist of the 'I have a degree or degree in Linguisitics' variety...that is not analyzing the language itself, and thus is more akin to 'translation and cultural interpretation' in that this sort of thing is not analysing say the qualities of the language, how its formed, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics

-that- is nothing like what an 'analyst' in the military sense does, which is 'read or listen, tell someone what it means including cultural knowledge'

vs a linguist would perhaps break down and study language in the following sub areas

    Phonetics, the study of the physical properties of speech sound production and perception
    Phonology, the study of sounds as abstract elements in the speaker's mind that distinguish meaning (phonemes)
    Morphology, the study of morphemes, or the internal structures of words and how they can be modified
    Syntax, the study of how words combine to form grammatical sentences
    Semantics, the study of the meaning of words (lexical semantics) and fixed word combinations (phraseology), and how these combine to form the meanings of sentences
    Pragmatics, the study of how utterances are used in communicative acts, and the role played by context and non-linguistic knowledge in the transmission of meaning
    Discourse analysis, the analysis of language use in texts (spoken, written, or signed)
    Stylistics, the study of linguistic factors (rhetoric, diction, stress) that place a discourse in context
    Semiotics, the study of signs and sign processes (semiosis), indication, designation, likeness, analogy, metaphor, symbolism, signification, and communication.


Not saying it's better or worse or superior, merely that it is not the same thing at all.


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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #17787 on: October 10, 2013, 01:33:23 AM »



And if you believe the USAF, who train all the bulk of our language analysts, they would tell you that folks have an easier time going form the language with genders and strong case structure to those which do not have them.


If you mean the DLI, I would argue that they train -speakers and understanders- of languages, not 'analysts' at all.  

I have spoken to many military 'linguists' and finding a common starting point for them to understand that an actual 'linguist' is a totally different animal, is sometimes an impossible task.



Uhhh, analyst here means what you said. Speakers and understanders. Those who do intelligence analysis in the language they are able to show proficiency in. I watched a kid go from no Arabic or Mandarin within a few years to having enough regional and dialect fluency to enter the field as needed.

My point about the USAF's stance on how languages relate to one another rests on how effective they are in training those "speakers and understanders". They aren't lightweights there developing the program.

Never said or implied they were.  I know many many people in this field...it's not me knocking them or their talents.

Merely that it's a very different animal from 'language analysis' in the civ and scientific sense

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« Reply #17788 on: October 10, 2013, 02:26:07 AM »



And if you believe the USAF, who train all the bulk of our language analysts, they would tell you that folks have an easier time going form the language with genders and strong case structure to those which do not have them.


If you mean the DLI, I would argue that they train -speakers and understanders- of languages, not 'analysts' at all.  

I have spoken to many military 'linguists' and finding a common starting point for them to understand that an actual 'linguist' is a totally different animal, is sometimes an impossible task.



Uhhh, analyst here means what you said. Speakers and understanders. Those who do intelligence analysis in the language they are able to show proficiency in. I watched a kid go from no Arabic or Mandarin within a few years to having enough regional and dialect fluency to enter the field as needed.

My point about the USAF's stance on how languages relate to one another rests on how effective they are in training those "speakers and understanders". They aren't lightweights there developing the program.

Never said or implied they were.  I know many many people in this field...it's not me knocking them or their talents.

Merely that it's a very different animal from 'language analysis' in the civ and scientific sense

Work on English and we'll talk about it.
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« Reply #17789 on: October 10, 2013, 08:26:17 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #17790 on: October 10, 2013, 08:32:31 AM »
So, I was born on the exact same day Fr. Seraphim Rose died. Am I his reincarnation?

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« Reply #17791 on: October 10, 2013, 08:34:05 AM »
So, I was born on the exact same day Fr. Seraphim Rose died. Am I his reincarnation?
No.  Perhaps if you were born 40 days after his death, but the turn around time on reincarnation is far longer than a day.
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« Reply #17792 on: October 10, 2013, 08:39:27 AM »
So, I was born on the exact same day Fr. Seraphim Rose died. Am I his reincarnation?
No.  Perhaps if you were born 40 days after his death, but the turn around time on reincarnation is far longer than a day.

Toll houses and such...
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« Reply #17793 on: October 10, 2013, 08:42:09 AM »
So, I was born on the exact same day Fr. Seraphim Rose died. Am I his reincarnation?
No.  Perhaps if you were born 40 days after his death, but the turn around time on reincarnation is far longer than a day.

Toll houses and such...
exactly.
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« Reply #17794 on: October 10, 2013, 08:54:10 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
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« Reply #17795 on: October 10, 2013, 08:56:55 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
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« Reply #17796 on: October 10, 2013, 09:00:19 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.
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« Reply #17797 on: October 10, 2013, 09:01:28 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.

I get the vibe that people may know one aspect of something really well and build on it.  And by build on it, I mean fake it.
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« Reply #17798 on: October 10, 2013, 09:04:38 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.

I get the vibe that people may know one aspect of something really well and build on it.  And by build on it, I mean fake it.
Can you provide specific examples of this?
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« Reply #17799 on: October 10, 2013, 09:09:09 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.

I get the vibe that people may know one aspect of something really well and build on it.  And by build on it, I mean fake it.
Can you provide specific examples of this?

Sure.  Learning a language does not make you an analyst, a linguist, or a philologist.  My comment is referencing the recent conversation in this thread.  If you want a specific example of my vibes, I can't give you that.
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« Reply #17800 on: October 10, 2013, 09:10:56 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.

I get the vibe that people may know one aspect of something really well and build on it.  And by build on it, I mean fake it.
Can you provide specific examples of this?
Well, you can pretty much look at any thread where a bunch of citations are being thrown about and it is a safe bet that the people posting them did not know that info to begin with, they did a quick google search, found something that supports what they are saying and posted it.  I think that is pretty much the entire politics subforum.  Now just extrapolate that across the entire forum.

It isn't really a new concept, it happens on internet forums all the time.  Do you really think the people on here or other forums are really so informed that they have all this random knowledge and expertise on 1000's of different topics?
Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.

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« Reply #17801 on: October 10, 2013, 09:15:46 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.

I get the vibe that people may know one aspect of something really well and build on it.  And by build on it, I mean fake it.
Can you provide specific examples of this?
Well, you can pretty much look at any thread where a bunch of citations are being thrown about and it is a safe bet that the people posting them did not know that info to begin with, they did a quick google search, found something that supports what they are saying and posted it.  I think that is pretty much the entire politics subforum.  Now just extrapolate that across the entire forum.

It isn't really a new concept, it happens on internet forums all the time.  Do you really think the people on here or other forums are really so informed that they have all this random knowledge and expertise on 1000's of different topics?

I thought everyone had to be a clairvoyant elder to be a member.  Ooops, I just told everyone I'm not a clairvoyant elder.  Dang.
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« Reply #17802 on: October 10, 2013, 09:19:03 AM »
Fortunately, that can be remedied by going into your settings and changing your custom title to "Clairvoyant Elder"  :laugh:
Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.

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« Reply #17803 on: October 10, 2013, 09:28:30 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.

I get the vibe that people may know one aspect of something really well and build on it.  And by build on it, I mean fake it.

To their credit, some posters communicate directly from their ignorance.

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« Reply #17804 on: October 10, 2013, 09:34:22 AM »
Do you really think the people on here or other forums are really so informed that they have all this random knowledge and expertise on 1000's of different topics?
I actually do believe people here are truly informed and know a ton of random knowledge. ialmisry and Romaios come instantly to mind.

I don't think they are kidding anyone either.

Really this board has alot of informative people and folks admit when they don't know something.

Sure I'll google a lot of the stuff I don't undesrtand or look up a word...but maybe I am just naive.

EDIT: But yes I've been on other forums where I know exactly what you are talking about. But I don't think it is as nearly prevalent or at all on OC.net. Again maybe I'm naive.
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« Reply #17805 on: October 10, 2013, 09:35:38 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.

I get the vibe that people may know one aspect of something really well and build on it.  And by build on it, I mean fake it.
Can you provide specific examples of this?

Sure.  Learning a language does not make you an analyst, a linguist, or a philologist.  My comment is referencing the recent conversation in this thread.  If you want a specific example of my vibes, I can't give you that.
So the people talking about language above are faking it?
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« Reply #17806 on: October 10, 2013, 09:37:48 AM »
Trisaigon, maybe it's just me...but I can tell who understands a topic and one who doesn't.

Like Iconodule said, some of it comes out of ignorance.
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Re: Random Postings
« Reply #17807 on: October 10, 2013, 09:44:13 AM »
My poor grasp of written English frustrates me sometimes.  I find it difficult to convey anything. 

BTW, this venting has nothing to do with the above posts.  They are way over my head.
Yeah same.
Don't feel bad.  Half the arguments on here are people reading wikipedia articles for 30 seconds and then pretending they are an expert on the subject.   :laugh:
Really? I don't get that vibe at all.

I get the vibe that people may know one aspect of something really well and build on it.  And by build on it, I mean fake it.
Can you provide specific examples of this?

Sure.  Learning a language does not make you an analyst, a linguist, or a philologist.  My comment is referencing the recent conversation in this thread.  If you want a specific example of my vibes, I can't give you that.
So the people talking about language above are faking it?
On that specific topic, I have no idea.  I will readily admit to not knowing enough about the topic to form a strong opinion.  I will say, it would not in any way suprise me to discover that most if not all posters have a certain amount of "puffery" built into their persona. It is just too easy to access information via the internet for people not to prop up their postions with lots of googling.  You may think you can figure out if someone understands a topic or not if it is a topic you have some knowledge on, but you can have two ppl arguing over some obsure point where neither of them know anything about it, but they are just skilled as throwing witty, sarcastic barbs at each other and with access to wikipedia, you can hold out for quite some time looking smart doing that.
Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.

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« Reply #17808 on: October 10, 2013, 09:55:46 AM »
I disagree.

I mean do you think orthonorm makes love to a thesaurus before posting on here purposely to come off as "crpytic" and "witty", or maybe deliberately opaque?

If you look at how he structures his posts, there is no way you can find the stuff he talks about on the internet. Believe me I have tried and I'm sort of a master at googling. And I only google because I want to learn more about what he says, and if I can't find it then I write it off as him being totally original or maybe pulling from the most obscure source that only 5 people in the world could know about.

ialmisry is a walking/talking encyclopedia on here.

I've only seen Marc1152 being called on his bluff when he copy pasta from Trotsky on wiki.

I give people the benefit of the doubt here over some random anonymous video game message board.

EDIT: You can only go so far using wiki IMO. But again this is where you have to discern who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't.

I try to avoid posting in topics I know nothing about these days because I've been embarrased in the past with my ignorance.
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« Reply #17809 on: October 10, 2013, 10:06:31 AM »
I disagree.

I mean do you think orthonorm makes love to a thesaurus before posting on here purposely to come off as "crpytic" and "witty", or maybe deliberately opaque?

If you look at how he structures his posts, there is no way you can find the stuff he talks about on the internet. Believe me I have tried and I'm sort of a master at googling. And I only google because I want to learn more about what he says, and if I can't find it then I write it off as him being totally original or maybe pulling from the most obscure source that only 5 people in the world could know about.

ialmisry is a walking/talking encyclopedia on here.

I've only seen Marc1152 being called on his bluff when he copy pasta from Trotsky on wiki.

I give people the benefit of the doubt here over some random anonymous video game message board.

EDIT: You can only go so far using wiki IMO. But again this is where you have to discern who knows what they are talking about and who doesn't.

I try to avoid posting in topics I know nothing about these days because I've been embarrased in the past with my ignorance.
You can believe whatever you wish, it makes no difference to me. I just know that most people have a few areas in which they have expertise in, a few areas that they have a passing knowledge in and the rest, they just bluff.  Is it possible that we have 5-6 Marilyn Vos Savant spawns on the boards?  I suppose so, but the odds are against it.  I'm not singling anyone out, but ask yourself this.  If you are some 30 yr old guy who is absolutely brilliant and understands everything from fluid dynamics to the philosophy of Wittgenstein, why are you spending so much time bantering with us idiots on an orthodoxchristianity.net forum?  Don't you have some career worthy of your intellect? Shouldn't you be out curing cancer or putting people on the Mars?
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Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.

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« Reply #17810 on: October 10, 2013, 10:11:46 AM »
If you are some 30 yr old guy who is absolutely brilliant and understands everything from fluid dynamics to the philosophy of Wittgenstein, why are you spending so much time bantering with us idiots on an orthodoxchristianity.net forum?

DUDE I so almost wanted to make a thread on that very question this morning.

But it was more "Why do you post on message boards?"
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« Reply #17811 on: October 10, 2013, 10:12:43 AM »
Cyrllic could be the next Erasmus, and he's what only 18? It's insanity.

I dunno man, I think you are being just a tad too cynical.
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« Reply #17812 on: October 10, 2013, 10:18:26 AM »
Cyrllic could be the next Erasmus, and he's what only 18? It's insanity.

I dunno man, I think you are being just a tad too cynical.

lol, could be my line of work.  I deal with attorneys who lie and bluff for a living.
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« Reply #17813 on: October 10, 2013, 10:23:10 AM »
I think I may have answered my own question though. I go on message boards to find people of the same interests I have...cause it is rare to find those people IRL.

Plus I'd rather write and read about such topics...
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« Reply #17814 on: October 10, 2013, 10:25:22 AM »
If you are some 30 yr old guy who is absolutely brilliant and understands everything from fluid dynamics to the philosophy of Wittgenstein, why are you spending so much time bantering with us idiots on an orthodoxchristianity.net forum?
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LOL @ your use of Wittgenstein. Go google him. Yeah, a real hob knobber of society and intellectuals.

Tri, I like to imagine you stick your foot in your mouth as a course of style.

See, I am charitable when it comes to others, you might try the same.
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« Reply #17815 on: October 10, 2013, 10:31:11 AM »
If you are some 30 yr old guy who is absolutely brilliant and understands everything from fluid dynamics to the philosophy of Wittgenstein, why are you spending so much time bantering with us idiots on an orthodoxchristianity.net forum?
LOL @ your use of Wittgenstein. Go google him. Yeah, a real hob knobber of society and intellectuals.

Tri, I like to imagine you stick your foot in your mouth as a course of style.

See, I am charitable when it comes to others, you might try the same.
I don't think I have read anything you have said about Wittgenstein on this board nor do I have it in my orthonorm.txt file.

Always wondered what you thought of him, he blips on my radar now and again. A few commies recommended him to me.
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« Reply #17816 on: October 10, 2013, 10:33:05 AM »
Cyrllic could be the next Erasmus, and he's what only 18? It's insanity.

I dunno man, I think you are being just a tad too cynical.

lol, could be my line of work.  I deal with attorneys who lie and bluff for a living.
If a boat full of lawyers could sink, well I think that would make me pretty happy.
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« Reply #17817 on: October 10, 2013, 10:37:11 AM »
Work on English and we'll talk about it.


-That- is what you have?   Really?  Your insults are usually so much more well thought out. Are you feeling ok?  Do I need to send you some chicken noodle soup or something?


And for all of you worried about your poor grasp of English, don't be.  He chose to single out my English in a really feeble attempt to make me feel like maybe my points were not valid.
Of course, I am a native English speaker, so that means all of you are doing so much better than I am, by Orthonorm standards.

The Trisagion did much better in insults by saying anyone commenting had puffery. And I don't even think he was trying.




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« Reply #17818 on: October 10, 2013, 10:41:40 AM »
Work on English and we'll talk about it.


-That- is what you have?   Really?  Your insults are usually so much more well thought out. Are you feeling ok?  Do I need to send you some chicken noodle soup or something?


And for all of you worried about your poor grasp of English, don't be.  He chose to single out my English in a really feeble attempt to make me feel like maybe my points were not valid.
Of course, I am a native English speaker, so that means all of you are doing so much better than I am, by Orthonorm standards.

The Trisagion did much better in insults by saying anyone commenting had puffery. And I don't even think he was trying.





Do you know what an analyst is? If you didn't know what I meant by it, I explained myself. We are talking people who work in intelligence. Those whose strength is language, I call language analysts. If the context didn't make that clear, I don't attempt to make most things clear especially when I am doing five other things at 3 AM, then my explicit pointing that out should have.

In short, I am referring to those in the intelligence, so that would rule out nearly every linguist, as they neither work in intelligence nor require it for their work.

Is that better?
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« Reply #17819 on: October 10, 2013, 10:43:48 AM »
Cyrllic could be the next Erasmus, and he's what only 18? It's insanity.

I dunno man, I think you are being just a tad too cynical.

lol, could be my line of work.  I deal with attorneys who lie and bluff for a living.

I can't remember what you do for a living again in general, maybe you never made it clear.

The three attorneys I know are incredibly bright, witty, and have as generous hearts as you can imagine. They are likely the exceptions.
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