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« Reply #14805 on: March 08, 2013, 05:27:38 PM »

Do you plan on being a professor?

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« Reply #14806 on: March 08, 2013, 05:28:28 PM »


Well I need to learn Greek, because you know what better Orthodox apologetics can you get by busting out the words in Greek and transliterating them for Protestants in debating with them? Grin

Just post some random Greek words and, heavily impressed, they'll concede defeat anyway. Unless they insist on the KJV-only, that is Smiley

History and Classics?

Do you plan on being a professor?

I hope to be so one day.
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« Reply #14807 on: March 08, 2013, 05:30:17 PM »

Do you plan on being a professor?

If he doesn't he can plan on being a pizza delivery person. It's one or the other with those degrees  Cool

Our prime-minister has studied history, so I can always succeed him.
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« Reply #14808 on: March 08, 2013, 05:31:26 PM »

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Don't remind me.

I had to derail my degree because of this economy.

What I really want to do, has nothing at all to do with making money. I wish the world didn't revolve around it.

Maybe this 80k job will pan out, maybe it won't. If I do get the job, then I will probably never do what I want to do anyway and just focus on raising a family and getting married.
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« Reply #14809 on: March 08, 2013, 05:34:36 PM »

LOL is that a good thing, or was that a jab at orthonorm?

You don't have to answer if its personal, but why did you drop out of philosophy? Why classics?

No, I wasn't trying to be ironic. I merely admitted I don't have what it takes to fully grasp what Zizek is joking about all the time. I only presume to know enough so I can tell that he is - for the most part - just joking. The only thing that might redeem him is if he doesn't take himself too seriously as a philosopher either. I think he doesn't.  

As for my studies, one thing led to the other - in the end, I guess I found philology a more worthwhile and enjoyable pursuit for myself. Much philosophy is not really intelligible in translation. You can't go far without at least a working knowledge of Greek and German.    
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« Reply #14810 on: March 08, 2013, 05:40:52 PM »

LOL is that a good thing, or was that a jab at orthonorm?

You don't have to answer if its personal, but why did you drop out of philosophy? Why classics?

No, I wasn't trying to be ironic. I merely admitted I don't have what it takes to fully grasp what Zizek is joking about all the time. I only presume to know enough so I can tell that he is - for the most part - just joking. The only thing that might redeem him is if he doesn't take himself too seriously as a philosopher either. I think he doesn't.  

As for my studies, one thing led to the other - in the end, I guess I found philology a more worthwhile and enjoyable pursuit for myself. Much philosophy is not really intelligible in translation. You can't go far without at least a working knowledge of Greek and German.    
Yeah I hear you about translation, and I think that extends to major literary works as well. orthonorm recommended me a book on Heidegger a year or so ago, and I'm sure it would be better to read him in the original German instead of trying to translate his thought.

But my first love has always been something in the creative field, and I would pursue it if the market wasn't so oversatured with folks looking for work in that area.
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« Reply #14811 on: March 08, 2013, 05:41:43 PM »


But my first love has always been something in the creative field, and I would pursue it if the market wasn't so oversatured with folks looking for work in that area.

Creative? Are you an artist?
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« Reply #14812 on: March 08, 2013, 05:44:34 PM »


But my first love has always been something in the creative field, and I would pursue it if the market wasn't so oversatured with folks looking for work in that area.

Creative? Are you an artist?
Put "artist" in quotes, haha. But yeah, that's what I love to do and I'm fairly decent at it. I think college for a lot of art hopefuls was a true reality check if they were actually good at it or not.

I have the imagination and the talent, I just need to sharpen up my skills.

Places like deviantart can sometimes be discouraging for me because you'll come across a lot of folks that are so good at what they can do, and it seems like I will never get there.

And then you have people who just produce mountains of crap all day...
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« Reply #14813 on: March 08, 2013, 05:47:25 PM »


Put "artist" in quotes, haha. But yeah, that's what I love to do and I'm fairly decent at it. I think college for a lot of art hopefuls was a true reality check if they were actually good at it or not.

I have the imagination and the talent, I just need to sharpen up my skills.

Places like deviantart can sometimes be discouraging for me because you'll come across a lot of folks that are so good at what they can do, and it seems like I will never get there.

And then you have people who just produce mountains of crap all day...

Aww, no need to be all pessimistic. From your posts its quite clear that you're creative and eccentric enough to be a good artist  Smiley

But would you mind sharing your deviantart? I'd love to see your work.
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« Reply #14814 on: March 08, 2013, 05:52:06 PM »

I don't have a deviantart. I think its the scum of the art world IMHO. police

I sometimes put some work on Facebook...

It's not so much pessimistic as I want to be as realistic as I can with what I can do. Too many people that come into Drawing 1 classes think they are so great and the next big thing, only to realize they were never that good to begin with. You should see how many of those folks actually show up to Drawing 2 and beyond, not many.

There is always 1 or 2 people in these classes that are genuinely talented and make it look so effortless.

Maybe I need to stop selling myself short, I don't know. All I know is I want to be the best at whatever is I am doing, I hate being so competitive with other people, but I am only satisifed if I can do things better than others.

And ontop of that, I'm a perfectionist. AKA throwing away an entire sketchbook until I get it exactly the way I want it.
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« Reply #14815 on: March 08, 2013, 05:58:19 PM »

I don't have a deviantart. I think its the scum of the art world IMHO. police

I sometimes put some work on Facebook...

It's not so much pessimistic as I want to be as realistic as I can with what I can do. Too many people that come into Drawing 1 classes think they are so great and the next big thing, only to realize they were never that good to begin with. You should see how many of those folks actually show up to Drawing 2 and beyond, not many.

Ah yes. Half of my friends think they're artists and expert drawers. I know those folks  Grin

Maybe I need to stop selling myself short, I don't know. All I know is I want to be the best at whatever is I am doing, I hate being so competitive with other people, but I am only satisifed if I can do things better than others.

And ontop of that, I'm a perfectionist. AKA throwing away an entire sketchbook until I get it exactly the way I want it.

It's not bad to be a perfectionist. I think it's a very good thing for an artist. Even if you don't pick up an art study you should really try to get better and follow your dreams. Many great artists didn't went to art school. Who knows, perhaps in a hundred years an authentic "Achronos" will sell for millions of dollars.

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« Reply #14816 on: March 08, 2013, 07:22:50 PM »

I've been preaching its near destruction for a while. Anytime I hear some say, "all you need to do is stick up to a bully", I know they've never met a true bully.
What do you call a kid who is verbally harrasing the other and making fun of them all the time?

A kid?

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« Reply #14817 on: March 08, 2013, 07:46:34 PM »

Plenty on the left don't take Zizek all that seriously either. One thing he sure did was to re-package himself for the free-market economy. Waiting for the revolution-or barbarism, he  sells well.
I'm way too ignorant of Lacan especially, to dare voice a very strong opinion on him.
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« Reply #14818 on: March 08, 2013, 07:48:24 PM »

Plenty on the left don't take Zizek all that seriously either. One thing he sure did was to re-package himself for the free-market economy. Waiting for the revolution-or barbarism, he  sells well.
I'm way too ignorant of Lacan especially, to dare voice a very strong opinion on him.
Well you probably know some stuff on Freud right? I don't think you would have too much difficulty.

I didn't realize Zizek was joking most of the time. I saw his explanation on markets and capitalism on youtube and actually agreed with him.
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« Reply #14819 on: March 08, 2013, 07:57:36 PM »

Plenty on the left don't take Zizek all that seriously either. One thing he sure did was to re-package himself for the free-market economy. Waiting for the revolution-or barbarism, he  sells well.
I'm way too ignorant of Lacan especially, to dare voice a very strong opinion on him.
Well you probably know some stuff on Freud right? I don't think you would have too much difficulty.

I didn't realize Zizek was joking most of the time. I saw his explanation on markets and capitalism on youtube and actually agreed with him.
I'm not all that familiar with Freud either. Of course orthodox Marxism tended to dismiss him as another decadent bourgeois ideologue. now not that I adhere to Marxist orthodoxy in principle. or any other orthodoxies. just haven't been  much interested in him.
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« Reply #14820 on: March 08, 2013, 08:07:20 PM »

But I'm terribly sorry to hear that. I've already been rejected twice, definitely one of the worse feelings.

Even worse if you have been spoiled like I have been.

I've had my immediate superiors not only try to terminate my position but also kick me out of the company altogether. They would have succeeded, if their superiors hadn't had firsthand evidence of my work quality.

School bullying ain't got diddly on workplace bullying.

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The word bullying became entirely vacuous.

It's been that way for a while.

I've been preaching its near destruction for a while. Anytime I hear some say, "all you need to do is stick up to a bully", I know they've never met a true bully.

There was thread somewhere about this. All I know I lived twice in my life where it was near hell to be a kid.

I remedied the first bullying around age eight or so with a brick repeatedly to someone's head. (Kids were holding my younger brother down try to take out his stitches. And we were the wrong color.)

Then when I had to relocate to a place of my own color. It required a more blunt instrument and much less blunt instrument and a few trips to court and what passed for jail / juvenile confinement.

In both cases, the bullies only stopped cause I had less to lose and was willing to permanently alter their lives. Where I live now, there are people I would do anything not to get mixed with as they have way less than I ever did. Nothing short of killing them would stop their bullying. For better or worse, I still can carry that ugliness and they assume I have almost as less to lose as they do.

I could eat alive every human I work with. I can't imagine what anyone could possibly do which would amount to bullying. And I've been threatened with termination for the most silly of reasons.

It was nothing like having kids hit you with baseball bats who are about twice your size as a kid.

Yeah.  If it is truly bullying, only violence is effective.  I was always more diplomatic about things.  And by diplomacy I mean that my friends were often bigger and meaner than the bullies.

So it's not real bullying if there's no blood to show for it?

Thanks, I needed the guffaw today. Cheesy

Not really. Blood is always in the bullying or the correcting of it.

If it is just base human greed and malice, that's all it is and everyone does it.

You've never lived in a world where you were lorded over by another or did the same to another on threat of loss of life and limb.

Threat of losing a posh job? Meh.
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« Reply #14821 on: March 08, 2013, 10:01:56 PM »

But I'm terribly sorry to hear that. I've already been rejected twice, definitely one of the worse feelings.

Even worse if you have been spoiled like I have been.

I've had my immediate superiors not only try to terminate my position but also kick me out of the company altogether. They would have succeeded, if their superiors hadn't had firsthand evidence of my work quality.

School bullying ain't got diddly on workplace bullying.

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The word bullying became entirely vacuous.

It's been that way for a while.

I've been preaching its near destruction for a while. Anytime I hear some say, "all you need to do is stick up to a bully", I know they've never met a true bully.

There was thread somewhere about this. All I know I lived twice in my life where it was near hell to be a kid.

I remedied the first bullying around age eight or so with a brick repeatedly to someone's head. (Kids were holding my younger brother down try to take out his stitches. And we were the wrong color.)

Then when I had to relocate to a place of my own color. It required a more blunt instrument and much less blunt instrument and a few trips to court and what passed for jail / juvenile confinement.

In both cases, the bullies only stopped cause I had less to lose and was willing to permanently alter their lives. Where I live now, there are people I would do anything not to get mixed with as they have way less than I ever did. Nothing short of killing them would stop their bullying. For better or worse, I still can carry that ugliness and they assume I have almost as less to lose as they do.

I could eat alive every human I work with. I can't imagine what anyone could possibly do which would amount to bullying. And I've been threatened with termination for the most silly of reasons.

It was nothing like having kids hit you with baseball bats who are about twice your size as a kid.

Yeah.  If it is truly bullying, only violence is effective.  I was always more diplomatic about things.  And by diplomacy I mean that my friends were often bigger and meaner than the bullies.

So it's not real bullying if there's no blood to show for it?

Thanks, I needed the guffaw today. Cheesy

Not really. Blood is always in the bullying or the correcting of it.

If it is just base human greed and malice, that's all it is and everyone does it.

You've never lived in a world where you were lorded over by another or did the same to another on threat of loss of life and limb.

Threat of losing a posh job? Meh.

Ah, the righteousness of ignorance.
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« Reply #14822 on: March 09, 2013, 07:17:07 AM »

Well either this is divine intervention or a coincidence.

Got a date with an...atheist. It surprised me how much we have in common and it should be fun. She's got a great personality, smart and pretty cute. Did I mention she gives violin lessons as a job, hell yeah. And she likes the same crappy music as I do.

We worked together at my current company a year and a half ago, but she was dating some other guy. She hit me up on Facebook and started talking.

I wasn't really interested in dating again for awhile, but don't want to pass up this opportunity, eventhough I normally have a rule against dating women who have a kid(s).

Now about this whole atheist/Orthodoxy thing, haven't figured that out yet. I'm not at all looking for anything serious right now, just want to have some fun. Oh and don't worry guys, she isn't the next Madalyn O'Hair nor does she look anything like her (and really thank God for that). She's firm in what she believes, but I wouldn't say dogmatic.

I'm sure she'd be open to the whole Orthodoxy thing...

Oh and I wouldn't expect a long-drawn out breakup thread again in a year, I hope. I've learned a few things from last time.
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Oh and I wouldn't expect a long-drawn out breakup thread again in a year, I hope. I've learned a few things from last time.

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« Reply #14824 on: March 09, 2013, 07:37:56 AM »

LOL, oh LBK if you could only understand my plight.
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« Reply #14825 on: March 09, 2013, 08:06:53 AM »

LOL, oh LBK if you could only understand my plight.

I was your age a long, long time ago. And even at that age, I knew the meaning of "once bitten, twice shy".
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« Reply #14826 on: March 09, 2013, 08:54:19 AM »

LOL, oh LBK if you could only understand my plight.

I was your age a long, long time ago. And even at that age, I knew the meaning of "once bitten, twice shy".
lol, well how about hurting someone else though...
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Famous. Last. Words.
Right!?  There is a reason we are warned about this sort of thing.  Atheist...maybe this needs to be moved over to the prayer thread.

Achronos, I love ya brother, but this is not a good move.  I'll say no more.
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« Reply #14828 on: March 09, 2013, 09:54:53 AM »



Got a date with an...atheist. It surprised me how much we have in common and it should be fun. She's got a great personality, smart and pretty cute. Did I mention she gives violin lessons as a job, hell yeah. And she likes the same crappy music as I do.

We worked together at my current company a year and a half ago, but she was dating some other guy. She hit me up on Facebook and started talking.

I wasn't really interested in dating again for awhile, but don't want to pass up this opportunity, eventhough I normally have a rule against dating women who have a kid(s).

Now about this whole atheist/Orthodoxy thing, haven't figured that out yet. I'm not at all looking for anything serious right now, just want to have some fun. Oh and don't worry guys, she isn't the next Madalyn O'Hair nor does she look anything like her (and really thank God for that). She's firm in what she believes, but I wouldn't say dogmatic.

I'm sure she'd be open to the whole Orthodoxy thing...

Oh and I wouldn't expect a long-drawn out breakup thread again in a year, I hope. I've learned a few things from last time.

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« Reply #14829 on: March 09, 2013, 08:28:18 PM »

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Famous. Last. Words.
Right!?  There is a reason we are warned about this sort of thing.  Atheist...maybe this needs to be moved over to the prayer thread.

Achronos, I love ya brother, but this is not a good move.  I'll say no more.
I appreciate your concern, and maybe not good for the Lenten season...

But wont be going on a date today, too much snow and still snowing. Been texting all day though.

Kerdy I will holler at you to be my spiritual confessor.
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« Reply #14830 on: March 10, 2013, 12:55:52 AM »

silly Achronos, setting himself up to be yoked with nonbelievers.
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« Reply #14831 on: March 10, 2013, 12:57:41 AM »

silly Achronos, setting himself up to be yoked with nonbelievers.
Hey doesn't the husband consecrate his wife?  police
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« Reply #14832 on: March 10, 2013, 01:00:10 AM »

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« Reply #14833 on: March 10, 2013, 01:03:52 AM »

silly Achronos, setting himself up to be yoked with nonbelievers.
Hey doesn't the husband consecrate his wife?  police

I am confused.
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« Reply #14834 on: March 10, 2013, 01:16:30 AM »

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Well either this is divine intervention or a coincidence.

Got a date with an...atheist. It surprised me how much we have in common and it should be fun. She's got a great personality, smart and pretty cute. Did I mention she gives violin lessons as a job, hell yeah. And she likes the same crappy music as I do.

We worked together at my current company a year and a half ago, but she was dating some other guy. She hit me up on Facebook and started talking.

I wasn't really interested in dating again for awhile, but don't want to pass up this opportunity, eventhough I normally have a rule against dating women who have a kid(s).

Now about this whole atheist/Orthodoxy thing, haven't figured that out yet. I'm not at all looking for anything serious right now, just want to have some fun. Oh and don't worry guys, she isn't the next Madalyn O'Hair nor does she look anything like her (and really thank God for that). She's firm in what she believes, but I wouldn't say dogmatic.

I'm sure she'd be open to the whole Orthodoxy thing...

Oh and I wouldn't expect a long-drawn out breakup thread again in a year, I hope. I've learned a few things from last time.
Are you gonna take her out to an akathist? just be careful the next thing you know, you'll be doing prostrations. She'll see how dusty and dreary atheism is compared to the physicality of orthodoxy.
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« Reply #14835 on: March 10, 2013, 01:23:30 AM »

She'll see how dusty and dreary atheism is compared to the physicality of orthodoxy.
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« Reply #14836 on: March 10, 2013, 07:14:06 AM »

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Hey doesn't the husband consecrate his wife?  police

I am confused.

The unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband (1 Corinthians 7:14)
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« Reply #14837 on: March 10, 2013, 12:12:14 PM »

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Hey doesn't the husband consecrate his wife?  police

I am confused.

The unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband (1 Corinthians 7:14)

That wasn't what I was confused about. It's how Achronos can be against Jennifer Aniston's wedding but is okay with dating an atheist.
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« Reply #14838 on: March 10, 2013, 12:18:06 PM »

silly Achronos, setting himself up to be yoked with nonbelievers.
Hey doesn't the husband consecrate his wife?  police

I am confused.

The unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband (1 Corinthians 7:14)

That wasn't what I was confused about. It's how Achronos can be against Jennifer Aniston's wedding but is okay with dating an atheist.

The distance between dating and a wedding is considerably greater than that between cup and lip. Wink
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« Reply #14839 on: March 10, 2013, 02:25:50 PM »

silly Achronos, setting himself up to be yoked with nonbelievers.
Hey doesn't the husband consecrate his wife?  police

I am confused.

The unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband (1 Corinthians 7:14)

That wasn't what I was confused about. It's how Achronos can be against Jennifer Aniston's wedding but is okay with dating an atheist.

That's because people tend to make things okay for themselves.
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« Reply #14840 on: March 10, 2013, 03:27:55 PM »

The distance between dating and a wedding is considerably greater than that between cup and lip. Wink
Yep.

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« Reply #14841 on: March 10, 2013, 09:01:36 PM »

silly Achronos, setting himself up to be yoked with nonbelievers.
Hey doesn't the husband consecrate his wife?  police

I am confused.

The unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband (1 Corinthians 7:14)

That wasn't what I was confused about. It's how Achronos can be against Jennifer Aniston's wedding but is okay with dating an atheist.

That's because people tend to make things okay for themselves.
Exactly.  People make all sorts of excuses and considerations when it's something they want.
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« Reply #14842 on: March 10, 2013, 09:06:38 PM »

silly Achronos, setting himself up to be yoked with nonbelievers.
Hey doesn't the husband consecrate his wife?  police

I am confused.

The unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband (1 Corinthians 7:14)
Not only is this improperly quoted, it's way out of context.
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« Reply #14843 on: March 10, 2013, 09:26:33 PM »

Is this rude? My dad is a huge, classic, stereotypical homophobe and the other day when we had company over, he was going on into a huge homophobic rant about how they "violate the Bah-bul!" and that he's glad he isn't like them. So I ended up embarassing him and humbling him in front of everyone by reminding him that he fornicated and thus is just as guilty as them of "violating the Bah-bul."
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« Reply #14844 on: March 10, 2013, 09:30:11 PM »

Is this rude? My dad is a huge, classic, stereotypical homophobe and the other day when we had company over, he was going on into a huge homophobic rant about how they "violate the Bah-bul!" and that he's glad he isn't like them. So I ended up embarassing him and humbling him in front of everyone by reminding him that he fornicated and thus is just as guilty as them of "violating the Bah-bul."

YIKES!! What happened next?  Shocked Wink
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« Reply #14845 on: March 10, 2013, 09:35:16 PM »

Is this rude? My dad is a huge, classic, stereotypical homophobe and the other day when we had company over, he was going on into a huge homophobic rant about how they "violate the Bah-bul!" and that he's glad he isn't like them. So I ended up embarassing him and humbling him in front of everyone by reminding him that he fornicated and thus is just as guilty as them of "violating the Bah-bul."

YIKES!! What happened next?  Shocked Wink

He gave me a dirty look, then stopped talking and we finished dinner in silence.
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« Reply #14846 on: March 10, 2013, 09:49:06 PM »

Is this rude? My dad is a huge, classic, stereotypical homophobe and the other day when we had company over, he was going on into a huge homophobic rant about how they "violate the Bah-bul!" and that he's glad he isn't like them. So I ended up embarassing him and humbling him in front of everyone by reminding him that he fornicated and thus is just as guilty as them of "violating the Bah-bul."

YIKES!! What happened next?  Shocked Wink
You mean, after he woke up?
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« Reply #14847 on: March 10, 2013, 09:52:15 PM »

Is this rude? My dad is a huge, classic, stereotypical homophobe and the other day when we had company over, he was going on into a huge homophobic rant about how they "violate the Bah-bul!" and that he's glad he isn't like them. So I ended up embarassing him and humbling him in front of everyone by reminding him that he fornicated and thus is just as guilty as them of "violating the Bah-bul."
I don't know the specifics of what he was saying, but contrary to popular belief, not everyone who doesn't fully embrace homosexual conduct is a homophobe.
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« Reply #14848 on: March 10, 2013, 09:57:38 PM »

Is this rude? My dad is a huge, classic, stereotypical homophobe and the other day when we had company over, he was going on into a huge homophobic rant about how they "violate the Bah-bul!" and that he's glad he isn't like them. So I ended up embarassing him and humbling him in front of everyone by reminding him that he fornicated and thus is just as guilty as them of "violating the Bah-bul."
I don't know the specifics of what he was saying, but contrary to popular belief, not everyone who doesn't fully embrace homosexual conduct is a homophobe.

I know that, but my dad was dropping the F-A double G E-T word; I think that says enough about what he was saying.
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« Reply #14849 on: March 11, 2013, 06:15:46 AM »

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