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Ugh, baseball caps. But Tom and Jerry is OK.
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« Reply #14584 on: February 19, 2013, 03:07:51 PM » |
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« Reply #14588 on: February 19, 2013, 03:16:34 PM » |
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« Reply #14589 on: February 19, 2013, 03:17:02 PM » |
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« Reply #14590 on: February 19, 2013, 03:18:21 PM » |
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But for his camauro (kamylaukion), I would agree with you: Somehow that one reminds me of Santa Claus. Uh...it reminds you of the U.S. president? (Ooopsies..."politics" ) |
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« Reply #14591 on: February 19, 2013, 03:20:28 PM » |
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If you like red, you could go for a galero: Apologies for nitpicking, but the first one is a capello romano, not a galero. I have known [Catholic] priests who wear one. For those lacking episcopal dignity, it does come in black. |
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« Reply #14592 on: February 19, 2013, 03:22:54 PM » |
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Somehow that one reminds me of Santa Claus. Given Santa's previous avatāra, his red hat was probably inspired by the camauro. St. Nicholas would never allow himself to be Latinised, now would he? St. Nicholas and Santa Claus (St. Claus??) are two separate and distinct characters--one real, the other a coke head.  vs.  |
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« Reply #14597 on: February 19, 2013, 03:31:23 PM » |
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Apologies for nitpicking, but the first one is a capello romano, not a galero.
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What did you think with all that white powder at the North Pole? Well, as one once nearly addicted to coke.....what *would* I think? A truly awful fate that is. I'm addicted to drinking cold water. A much healthier and cheaper addiction. |
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« Reply #14603 on: February 19, 2013, 03:46:12 PM » |
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A truly disgusting hat: Mon ami, le français est meilleur comme tu pense  But still, baseball caps, meh... |
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You're either *very* young or very sheltered. I'm 18 springs young. Does that pardon me Hmmm.....I'll have to apply some oikonomia to make it so. There are only two ways to dress like a pimp. Right and wrong. This guy, is straight up ice cold gangsta:  Scoff if you like, but this is the sorta girls this bro was pulling:  And when he died, he was carried up into heaven by angels. Here's a photo:  |
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« Reply #14605 on: February 19, 2013, 03:48:47 PM » |
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« Reply #14607 on: February 19, 2013, 03:54:44 PM » |
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Indeed, they are visibly not the same type of headdress. Last time I checked, capello meant 'hair' in Italian. I guess if you are born with German Haar, you must put the Roman capello on top. When in Rome I suppose, lol. I have heard that years ago, one could present the pope with a white zucchetto in exchange for the one he was wearing. That would be a pretty cool souvenir. |
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« Reply #14608 on: February 19, 2013, 04:02:45 PM » |
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I have heard that years ago, one could present the pope with a white zuccheto in exchange for the one he was wearing. That would be pretty cool souvenir.
Another weird Italian name for a piece of clerical headdress: zucca is "pumpkin", zucchetto - "little pumpkin". So wearing one of those makes one a ... pumpkinhead. Maybe that's how Italians view their clergy. Lol - I just noticed this V Italian Animal Rights Activists Pressure Cat-Loving Pope to Stop Wearing Fur |
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I have heard that years ago, one could present the pope with a white zuccheto in exchange for the one he was wearing. That would be pretty cool souvenir.
Another weird Italian name for a piece of clerical headdress: zucca is "pumpkin", zucchetto - "little pumpkin". So wearing one of those makes one a ... pumpkinhead. Maybe that's how Italians view their clergy. Or, maybe that's how Romanians view Italian clergy. A zucchetto is essentially the same as a kippah (yarmulke). Zucchetto:  Kippah:  |
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« Reply #14610 on: February 19, 2013, 04:26:59 PM » |
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Der liebe Gott wohnt im Detail: the kippa has no pumpkin tail or stripes on it.
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« Reply #14614 on: February 19, 2013, 04:34:44 PM » |
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I wondering if it is a rendering of kapele or if that is a false cognate. More over I want to know why some Jews use kippah it seems as a statement rather than yarmulke. It makes no sense to me if kippah is indeed a Yiddish rendering. Everyone I grew up around said yarmulke without the weird American pronunciation. J Michael just reminded me of this thing that niggles me at times and I lack the resources and time right now to find out. IOW, curious and lazy. |
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1903, from Yiddish yarmulke, from Polish jarmułka, originally "a skullcap worn by priests," perhaps ultimately from Medieval Latin almutia "cowl, hood."
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If it comes from Hebrew that would explain the political undertone of its use, I am interested when it became standard to use it for the hat. In the Hebrew Bible, kippa means "palm leaf" (Is. 9:13; 19:15). According to the Brown-Driver-Briggs lexicon, it comes from the root כָּפַף - "to bend, be bent/bowed or hollow" and is related to kaf ("hollow" or "flat of the hand, palm, sole of foot or pan"). |
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