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« Reply #13500 on: October 22, 2012, 02:00:02 PM »
The English language has certainly been a heavy influence on many languages around the world – including modern Norwegian. Thanks to ‘internationalisation’ from the Internet, TV and film, Norwegians frequently use words like baby, drink, cool, jeans, web and chips – to name a few.

But once upon a time it was the other way around. Many English words actually come from old Norse language – brought by Vikings to England in medieval times. Here are some words you have probably uttered without realizing you are speaking Norwegian!

    Anger – from angr (“trouble, affliction”)
    Bag – from baggi. Norwegians use the word bag today but, ironically, with an English pronounciation. The word has actually been re-imported from English!
    Berserk – from berserkr (“bare shirt”). Fierce warriors who fought without armour (and ate magic mushrooms for courage).
    Crawl – from krafla (“to claw”).
    Dirt – from drit (“feces”).
    Gun – from gunn (“war, battle”)
    Hell – from Hel, the ruler of the Underworld in Norse mythology.
    Hit – from hitta (“find”). Another example of a re-imported word.
    Husband – from husbondi (“master of the house”).
    Knife – from kniv, kvifr. You may have guessed this one already. In fact, any word starting with kn- is probably from old Norse.
    Raft – from raptr (“log”). Today we use the (English) word rafting in Norway when talking about the popular sport.
    Reindeer – from hreindyri. In modern Norwegian: reinsdyr.
    Scare – from skirra (“to frighten”).
    Steak – from steik, steikja (“to cook, roast”). Curiously, the word steak house is common in Norway today.
    Town – from tun, referring to the open space between buildings.
    Ugly – from uggligr (“dreadful”).
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« Reply #13501 on: October 22, 2012, 06:20:49 PM »
I got this shirt just for Cyrillic. ;)

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« Reply #13502 on: October 22, 2012, 06:26:02 PM »
Many English words actually come from old Norse language –

I couldn't help but notice that most of those words are negative in some way (violent, etc.) ...  :police: 8)

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« Reply #13503 on: October 22, 2012, 07:06:37 PM »
Many English words actually come from old Norse language –

I couldn't help but notice that most of those words are negative in some way (violent, etc.) ...  :police: 8)

That's true for quite a few English words of Old Norse origin; cut, die, drown, ugly, etc. :)
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« Reply #13504 on: October 23, 2012, 10:45:42 AM »
Perhaps it's a bit personal, but how's the Ecumenical Patriarchate part of the Swedish culture you want to preserve?

You obviously don't know the history of Christianity in my nation.

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« Reply #13505 on: October 23, 2012, 11:15:45 AM »
« Last Edit: October 23, 2012, 11:17:32 AM by Cyrillic »
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« Reply #13506 on: October 23, 2012, 11:19:23 AM »
In fact, any word starting with kn- is probably from old Norse.

No, that's stretching a bit too far. Kn- is just as likely to come from Old English (for instance knight) as Old Norse - it's a pretty common sound in Saxon derived languages (Anglo-Saxon, Old Saxon), though in Old English they usually wrote it Cn-.

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« Reply #13507 on: October 23, 2012, 11:25:19 AM »
In fact, any word starting with kn- is probably from old Norse.

No, that's stretching a bit too far. Kn- is just as likely to come from Old English (for instance knight) as Old Norse - it's a pretty common sound in Saxon derived languages (Anglo-Saxon, Old Saxon), though in Old English they usually wrote it Cn-.

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From the 9th century, Old English experienced heavy influence from Old Norse.
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« Reply #13508 on: October 23, 2012, 11:26:55 AM »
I got this shirt just for Cyrillic. ;)



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« Reply #13509 on: October 23, 2012, 11:37:41 AM »
In fact, any word starting with kn- is probably from old Norse.

No, that's stretching a bit too far. Kn- is just as likely to come from Old English (for instance knight) as Old Norse - it's a pretty common sound in Saxon derived languages (Anglo-Saxon, Old Saxon), though in Old English they usually wrote it Cn-.

James

From the 9th century, Old English experienced heavy influence from Old Norse.

Never said it didn't. It's just pushing a bit too far to assume kn- is an indicator of Norse origin over Saxon. Of course, Old Saxon and Old Norse would have been rubbing up against one another back in Europe as well as in Britain (and this would continue on well into the middle ages, just look at the greeting 'moin moin' that followed the Hanse all around the Baltic - it's Plattdeutsch, descended from Old Saxon, yet my Danish niece uses it) so it's probably pretty hard to completely disentangle the two, but it remains a fact that kn- is a common sound in Saxon as well as Norse.

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« Reply #13510 on: October 23, 2012, 01:30:51 PM »
« Last Edit: October 23, 2012, 01:32:05 PM by Cyrillic »
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« Reply #13511 on: October 23, 2012, 01:54:06 PM »
Perhaps it's a bit personal, but how's the Ecumenical Patriarchate part of the Swedish culture you want to preserve?

You obviously don't know the history of Christianity in my nation.
Oh yeah, the barbarian lands. Forgot about it. But more seriously it's Lutheranism, and before it Roman Catholicism that's  "the history of Christianity in your nation."

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« Reply #13512 on: October 23, 2012, 02:00:15 PM »
Perhaps it's a bit personal, but how's the Ecumenical Patriarchate part of the Swedish culture you want to preserve?

You obviously don't know the history of Christianity in my nation.
Oh yeah, the barbarian lands. Forgot about it. But more seriously it's Lutheranism, and before it Roman Catholicism that's  "the history of Christianity in your nation."

No... Scandinavia was Orthodox before the schism...and several years after, and under the Ecumenical Patriarchate.

Varangian Guard. Take a history class.

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Olaf_of_Norway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangian_Guard
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« Reply #13513 on: October 23, 2012, 02:02:50 PM »
Perhaps it's a bit personal, but how's the Ecumenical Patriarchate part of the Swedish culture you want to preserve?

You obviously don't know the history of Christianity in my nation.
Oh yeah, the barbarian lands. Forgot about it. But more seriously it's Lutheranism, and before it Roman Catholicism that's  "the history of Christianity in your nation."

No... Scandinavia was Orthodox before the schism...and several years after, and under the Ecumenical Patriarchate.

Varangian Guard. Take a history class.
So were the Balkans under the pope . Nerds can find that in some history books. Now how's that related to the living culture of Sweeden you want to preserve from whatever, africans etc?

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« Reply #13514 on: October 23, 2012, 02:07:32 PM »
So were the Balkans under the pope . Nerds can find that in some history books. Now how's that related to the living culture of Sweeden you want to preserve from whatever, africans etc?

What are you blabbering about the Balkans and the Pope?

It isn't related to the culture of Sweden. Because I never talked about, or even brought up religion. You did. So you need to explain, not me.

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« Reply #13515 on: October 23, 2012, 02:12:34 PM »
So were the Balkans under the pope . Nerds can find that in some history books. Now how's that related to the living culture of Sweeden you want to preserve from whatever, africans etc?

What are you blabbering about the Balkans and the Pope?

It isn't related to the culture of Sweden. Because I never talked about, or even brought up religion. You did. So you need to explain, not me.
You were adamant that immigrants from Africa or Asia, I dunno, were going to alter Swedish culture in irreversibly because of their own different culture.  I only found it funny that some Swedish guy that joined a Greek church nine seas away, would be the one to complain about i. I myself have nothing but respect for Scandinavians, just don't see the Greek  religion as part of their culture.

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« Reply #13517 on: October 23, 2012, 02:29:21 PM »
Here's a somewhat better one.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2012, 02:34:59 PM by Cyrillic »
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« Reply #13518 on: October 23, 2012, 02:55:47 PM »
So were the Balkans under the pope . Nerds can find that in some history books. Now how's that related to the living culture of Sweeden you want to preserve from whatever, africans etc?

What are you blabbering about the Balkans and the Pope?

It isn't related to the culture of Sweden. Because I never talked about, or even brought up religion. You did. So you need to explain, not me.
You were adamant that immigrants from Africa or Asia, I dunno, were going to alter Swedish culture in irreversibly because of their own different culture.  I only found it funny that some Swedish guy that joined a Greek church nine seas away, would be the one to complain about i. I myself have nothing but respect for Scandinavians, just don't see the Greek  religion as part of their culture.

Scandinavian culture is exactly that, Scandinavian.

Orthodoxy is not Greek. If you think it is, you are a heretic.
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« Reply #13519 on: October 23, 2012, 03:06:07 PM »
From a UDI annual report for 2011:

9,900 people were granted their first residence permit to work in Norway.

86% of applications were approved. Nationals of Romania, India and Bulgaria were granted the highest number of permits to work in Norway.

Most immigrants come to work in agriculture and fish-processing, industry or commerce, and the hotel and restaurant industry.

In addition, 36,900 EEA nationals registered as employees, jobseekers, self-employed persons or service providers.

http://www.udi.no/Norwegian-Directorate-of-Immigration/Annual-Report-2011/Work-and-residence/How-many-people-came-here-to-work/

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« Reply #13520 on: October 23, 2012, 03:28:14 PM »
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« Reply #13521 on: October 23, 2012, 04:02:39 PM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:
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« Reply #13522 on: October 23, 2012, 04:13:35 PM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:

Oh my, I am having doubts about my faith. :o
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« Reply #13523 on: October 23, 2012, 04:17:04 PM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:

Oh my, I am having doubts about my faith. :o

Just hold fast to it till you cross the Finnish line.

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« Reply #13524 on: October 23, 2012, 04:17:51 PM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:

Oh my, I am having doubts about my faith. :o

Don't worry. Since Finland is a Scandinavian country, you have nothing to worry about. :angel:
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« Reply #13525 on: October 23, 2012, 04:19:33 PM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:

Oh my, I am having doubts about my faith. :o

Just hold fast to it till you cross the Finnish line.

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« Reply #13526 on: October 23, 2012, 04:20:01 PM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:

Oh my, I am having doubts about my faith. :o

Don't worry. Since Finland is a Scandinavian country, you have nothing to worry about. :angel:

Nordic, yes. But not Scandinavian. ;)

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« Reply #13527 on: October 23, 2012, 04:39:21 PM »
That's completely accurate racist!
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« Reply #13528 on: October 23, 2012, 05:08:15 PM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Depends what you mean by Greek :)

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« Reply #13529 on: October 23, 2012, 05:09:40 PM »
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« Reply #13531 on: October 23, 2012, 09:22:03 PM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:

Oh my, I am having doubts about my faith. :o

Don't worry. Since Finland is a Scandinavian country, you have nothing to worry about. :angel:

Nordic, yes. But not Scandinavian. ;)



Everyone forgets about the Faroes. :-[

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« Reply #13532 on: October 23, 2012, 11:38:40 PM »
Damn it I got to get her back!!! I can't suppress my feelings anymore.
...Or it's just possible he's a mouthy young man on an internet forum.
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« Reply #13533 on: October 24, 2012, 02:10:08 AM »
What's love, got to do, got to do with it? What's love, but a second hand emotion?

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« Reply #13534 on: October 24, 2012, 02:23:14 AM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:

Oh my, I am having doubts about my faith. :o

Don't worry. Since Finland is a Scandinavian country, you have nothing to worry about. :angel:

Nordic, yes. But not Scandinavian. ;)



Everyone forgets about the Faroes. :-[
En færing?
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« Reply #13535 on: October 24, 2012, 05:37:22 AM »
Scandinavians are everywhere on this forum. It's a viking invasion.
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« Reply #13536 on: October 24, 2012, 06:12:23 AM »
That's completely accurate racist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwYxJ8002Wg&feature=related

LOL. Now I'm unable to visit Norway before I shorten my hair and get rid of Finnish accent. I wonder where's the nearest niqab store.
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« Reply #13537 on: October 24, 2012, 11:49:10 AM »
It's one post too late, but i just reached 1000.  ;D
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« Reply #13538 on: October 24, 2012, 11:55:47 AM »
Orthodoxy is not Greek.

Correct. It's not Greek, it's Finnish. :police:

Oh my, I am having doubts about my faith. :o

Don't worry. Since Finland is a Scandinavian country, you have nothing to worry about. :angel:

Nordic, yes. But not Scandinavian. ;)



Everyone forgets about the Faroes. :-[
You need to make yourself noticeable.


 Do like the greenlanders:Find some valueable natural recourse and declare it your proberty.
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« Reply #13539 on: October 24, 2012, 01:23:44 PM »
What's love, got to do, got to do with it? What's love, but a second hand emotion?
You're simply the best....better than all the rest.
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« Reply #13540 on: October 24, 2012, 01:35:32 PM »
And I want to stand with you on a mountain, I want to bathe with you in the sea, I want to lay like this forever until the sky falls down on me.
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« Reply #13541 on: October 24, 2012, 03:56:31 PM »
En færing?

Ja, er du dansk?


You need to make yourself noticeable.


Do like the greenlanders:Find some valueable natural recourse and declare it your proberty.

HAHA Oil? Or Fish?

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« Reply #13542 on: October 24, 2012, 04:03:55 PM »
More soccer playing scandinavians have arrived  :'(


Naw, you guys are OK.
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« Reply #13543 on: October 24, 2012, 04:42:51 PM »
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Ja, er du dansk?
Det er jeg  :)

If it's any comfort, I have always wanted to move to the Faroe Islands (or at least visit)

It's beautiful.


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HAHA Oil? Or Fish?

Well, if you're gonna take the oil, you'd better be fast.  :)
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« Reply #13544 on: October 24, 2012, 05:26:54 PM »
Scandinavians are everywhere on this forum. It's a viking invasion.

It is no doubt the Great Heathen Army
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