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« Reply #13410 on: October 19, 2012, 02:00:35 PM »
Miksi?

Koska en ollut aivan varma, oliko se vitsi eli google-kääntäjä. Olisi melko randomia törmätä amerikkalaisella keskustelupalstalla suomentaitoiseen hollantilaiseen.

Finnish is so strange.

Well we can always comfort ourselves that Danish sounds even stranger.

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« Reply #13411 on: October 19, 2012, 02:06:03 PM »
Miksi?

Koska en ollut aivan varma, oliko se vitsi eli google-kääntäjä. Olisi melko randomia törmätä amerikkalaisella keskustelupalstalla suomentaitoiseen hollantilaiseen.

Finnish is so strange.

Well we can always comfort ourselves that Danish sounds even stranger.

Danes just sound like they speak with a potato in their mouth. ;)

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« Reply #13412 on: October 19, 2012, 02:08:06 PM »
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« Reply #13413 on: October 19, 2012, 02:09:23 PM »
Why do White women always fall for minority men?

They don't. A lot of women that I know are disgusted with the idea, even those who pretend to be left-wing hippies.

See my comments about Europe above . . .

It's the same way in America, genius.

Not where I have lived. Sorry, you are lost here. (Read you comments above about non-Nowegians living Oslo.)

I've stayed for more than a year in more than a few places in this country as well as in Europe.

At one time, mixed couples might have been more tolerated in Europe.

Not any more.



I second this in defense of the homeland!  Here in Arizona, white people frequently have relationships with Asians, Hispanics, and black people.
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« Reply #13414 on: October 19, 2012, 02:30:13 PM »
Speaking of soccer and hooliganism.

In a Spanish class we were listening to this audio file about hooligans. There were multiple choice questions, one of which was what happened before the 1985 Euro Cup final. I lol'd at the option which said a bunch of people died because I thought that was absurd and there's no way that could be the right answer.

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« Reply #13415 on: October 19, 2012, 03:30:00 PM »
Speaking of soccer and hooliganism.

In a Spanish class we were listening to this audio file about hooligans. There were multiple choice questions, one of which was what happened before the 1985 Euro Cup final. I lol'd at the option which said a bunch of people died because I thought that was absurd and there's no way that could be the right answer.

I feel bad.

There even was a war about a lost soccer match.
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« Reply #13416 on: October 19, 2012, 03:51:06 PM »
Welcome!

Thank you friend!

I welcome you as well, Sweden seems like a cool country to me (aside from the leftism)! Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with a band called Scar Symmetry?

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« Reply #13417 on: October 19, 2012, 04:16:35 PM »
Thank you! Yes, we exist, although a wee minority. I do hope people here, i.e. Americans, realize that Nationalism ≠ Xenophobia

I do; in fact, I wish there was more nationalism in Europe. As xenophobic as this may sound, I believe that Europe should try to stay "as white as possible", being that Europe is, after all, where white people come from. I don't like the idea of Islamic culture taking over Europe, and I hope that nationalism increases throughout Europe soon, and that more people wake up and see the true dangers of Islam (including in America; there's too much tolerance for Islam here too) and the importance of maintaining their culture.

And for those of you who think I sound like a white nationalist, I'm not even white; I'm mixed (though I am half-white). I just don't want to see European cultures be destroyed, just as much as I don't want to see the cultures of Africa, Asia, and other parts of the world destroyed. Multiculturalism may fit here in America, but it doesn't mean that it belongs everywhere else in the world. All races living together in the world doesn't mean destroying distinctive cultures.

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« Reply #13418 on: October 19, 2012, 04:21:44 PM »
As xenophobic as this may sound, I believe that Europe should try to stay "as white as possible", being that Europe is, after all, where white people come from.

This is the problem, the conflation of culture and race. The preservation of European cultures does not necessitate the preservation of 'whiteness'. It is perfectly possible for someone to be ethnically Ethiopian but culturally Swedish.

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« Reply #13419 on: October 19, 2012, 04:35:44 PM »
No, I am happy without a world with full of nationalism.
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« Reply #13420 on: October 19, 2012, 04:38:34 PM »
It is perfectly possible for someone to be ethnically Ethiopian but culturally Swedish.

I would say it is impossible to be either.

In the day to day get along way of speaking these sorta constructions might work: race, ethnicity, nationality, etc., but they have nearly no bearing once put under any serious scrutiny.

In the end, all this politics of identity is begging the question with those who have the most power doing the majority of the begging.
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« Reply #13421 on: October 19, 2012, 04:42:05 PM »
European politics is almost impossible to understand for Americans but this is not the thread or the subforum to discuss it.
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« Reply #13422 on: October 19, 2012, 04:46:21 PM »
I would say it is impossible to be either.

If you are talking in absolute terms, of course. Racial purity is a fiction, and cultures are both diverse and constantly evolving. However, there is still something about the shared experience, language(s), general attitudes, common habits, etc. of a people that allows one to speak of Swedish culture, Greek culture, etc. So a person can be born of Ethiopian parents and still follow the general customs, habits, etc. of most Swedish people - which is what I mean by culturally Swedish - rather than those of most Ethiopians.

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« Reply #13423 on: October 19, 2012, 06:22:27 PM »
No, I am happy without a world with full of nationalism.

This.
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« Reply #13424 on: October 19, 2012, 07:01:50 PM »
Why do White women always fall for minority men?

They don't. A lot of women that I know are disgusted with the idea, even those who pretend to be left-wing hippies.

See my comments about Europe above . . .

It's the same way in America, genius.

Not where I have lived. Sorry, you are lost here. (Read you comments above about non-Nowegians living Oslo.)

I've stayed for more than a year in more than a few places in this country as well as in Europe.

At one time, mixed couples might have been more tolerated in Europe.

Not any more.



I second this in defense of the homeland!  Here in Arizona, white people frequently have relationships with Asians, Hispanics, and black people.

They do that in nearly every part of Western Europe. Genius.

P.S. If you call Asians "Asians", what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?
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« Reply #13425 on: October 19, 2012, 07:04:03 PM »
No, I am happy without a world with full of nationalism.

Nationalism has almost nothing to do with race. No wait, it has NOTHING to do with race.
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« Reply #13426 on: October 19, 2012, 07:04:18 PM »
Nationalism is evil. Culture is evil. It causes people to separate themselves and create a barrier between each other and not just accept that they are all humans. I admit, I don't like Europe's tolerance for Islamic culture, but for different reasons. Europe shouldn't reject it because they want to 'preserve their European culture' but because it is violent and dangerous. Besides, Europe screwed up the culture of Africa and Meso/South America so I could care less what happens to their culture.
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« Reply #13427 on: October 19, 2012, 07:06:00 PM »
Nationalism is evil. Culture is evil. It causes people to separate themselves and create a barrier between each other and not just accept that they are all humans. I admit, I don't like Europe's tolerance for Islamic culture, but for different reasons. Europe shouldn't reject it because they want to 'preserve their European culture' but because it is violent and dangerous. Besides, Europe screwed up the culture of Africa and Meso/South America so I could care less what happens to their culture.

I wish people knew what Nationalism was.

Too many liberals like Orthonorm on this thread.
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« Reply #13428 on: October 19, 2012, 07:06:53 PM »
As xenophobic as this may sound, I believe that Europe should try to stay "as white as possible", being that Europe is, after all, where white people come from.

The preservation of European cultures does not necessitate the preservation of 'whiteness'. It is perfectly possible for someone to be ethnically Ethiopian but culturally Swedish.

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« Reply #13429 on: October 19, 2012, 07:07:45 PM »
Nationalism is evil. Culture is evil. It causes people to separate themselves and create a barrier between each other and not just accept that they are all humans. I admit, I don't like Europe's tolerance for Islamic culture, but for different reasons. Europe shouldn't reject it because they want to 'preserve their European culture' but because it is violent and dangerous. Besides, Europe screwed up the culture of Africa and Meso/South America so I could care less what happens to their culture.

I wish people knew what Nationalism was.

Too many liberals like Orthonorm on this thread.

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« Reply #13430 on: October 19, 2012, 07:08:17 PM »
...what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?

There is actually a controversy about this. While technically all Black people can trace their ancestory back to Africa (as can all humanity actually), there are some who believe that referring to all Blacks as 'Africans' may be incorrect, the reason being because what about the Black people who live in places like Jamaica and the Caribbean Islands? I would say that the Black people living in those areas have developed their own distinctive Black subculture with significant differences from Africa. So perhaps calling them 'African' might not be the best term. Idk.
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« Reply #13431 on: October 19, 2012, 07:10:16 PM »
Nationalism is evil. Culture is evil. It causes people to separate themselves and create a barrier between each other and not just accept that they are all humans. I admit, I don't like Europe's tolerance for Islamic culture, but for different reasons. Europe shouldn't reject it because they want to 'preserve their European culture' but because it is violent and dangerous. Besides, Europe screwed up the culture of Africa and Meso/South America so I could care less what happens to their culture.

I wish people knew what Nationalism was.

Too many liberals like Orthonorm on this thread.

I didn't bring up race at all. I perfectly know what Nationalism is. It is a sense of pride that people (of whatever race) inhabiting a particular area or region take in their culture and history. I think that it is a bad philosophy because it leads to people thinking they are better than others and separating themselves from other humans, ultimately leading to war and hatred.
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« Reply #13433 on: October 19, 2012, 07:22:19 PM »
Could we translate the Divine Liturgy to Ebonics?
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« Reply #13434 on: October 19, 2012, 07:44:01 PM »
No, I am happy without a world with full of nationalism.

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« Reply #13435 on: October 19, 2012, 07:58:20 PM »
This is the most uncomfortably racist things have gotten around here in a while.

How is it racist? Have you any idea it is not an issue of race, but an issue of culture? I never said, nor will say, any race is inferior. Please forgive me, but where did you assume the idea was a "racist"? My fiancee is hispanic after all.

"Culture" is the word Europeans use to mask their xenophobia.

Culture is a word used when you don't want the ways of your people to die, actually.

According to the multiculturalists that's xenophobia, but we have a politics board for topics like that.

American's haven't the slightest concept of what this topic was about. America doesn't have a true culture, it is a mixture of all cultures, which is great and they should embrace. But they don't know what it is really like to watch you history erode beneath their feet.

No one is saying any culture is better or worse. We just want to preserve ours, as they would theirs, and we all should.
Perhaps it's a bit personal, but how's the Ecumenical Patriarchate part of the Swedish culture you want to preserve?

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« Reply #13436 on: October 19, 2012, 08:01:31 PM »
Perhaps it's a bit personal, but how's the Ecumenical Patriarchate part of the Swedish culture you want to preserve?

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« Reply #13437 on: October 19, 2012, 08:13:09 PM »
Sometimes I think it'd be interesting if Old English hardly changed and as a result modern English speakers spoke a language like this...

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« Reply #13438 on: October 19, 2012, 08:35:21 PM »
I always knew it was bad...but I never knew the exact numbers: About 30% of Oslo are of non-Norwegian background. Could be 50% by 2030. I think that is absurd.
I've been to Narvik.  Beautiful place!  Walked into a bank and asked the teller if she spoke English.  With a straight face she said, " I do.  Do you speak English?" 

You were going skiing I suppose? :laugh:
There was a lot of snow.  To date, it was probably my favorite place I've been outside the USA.

I asked because it is supposedly the best place in the country for Alpine Skiing. I've wanted to go there, but that's further north than I've ever been! lol

I was there on business.  There was a lot of snow and very cold.  It snowed almost every day.  I am cure the skiing was great, but I didn’t get a chance to do any.  I can tell you it was difficult to just walk around and drive.  I did visit the WW2 museum there where they had a Nazi submarine hanging from the rafters.  That was pretty neat!  You should go see it if you can and tell me what it is like now.  If I can figure out how to scan some pictures and put them on here, I will post them for you, but they are about 20 years old.

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« Reply #13439 on: October 19, 2012, 08:42:28 PM »
...what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?

There is actually a controversy about this. While technically all Black people can trace their ancestory back to Africa (as can all humanity actually), there are some who believe that referring to all Blacks as 'Africans' may be incorrect, the reason being because what about the Black people who live in places like Jamaica and the Caribbean Islands? I would say that the Black people living in those areas have developed their own distinctive Black subculture with significant differences from Africa. So perhaps calling them 'African' might not be the best term. Idk.

MY POINT IS BELLOW TO KERDY.

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« Reply #13440 on: October 19, 2012, 08:45:35 PM »
...what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?

Because they aren’t, unless they came from Africa.  There are several nations where blacks are indigenous and calling them African is an insult.  African is a continental identity, not a race.  It makes as much sense as calling every white person European or every person of Latin heritage Mexican.  Call a Puerto Rican Mexican and count the seconds before you find yourself face down on the sidewalk.  There is a reason in most areas of business people are broken down into basic categories.  White, Black, Asian, Pacific American, Hispanic, other.  Charlize Theron is African.  Aboriginals are Australian.  Whites are Greek, Italian, Russian, etc.  See what I mean?


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« Reply #13441 on: October 19, 2012, 08:46:50 PM »
Nationalism is evil. Culture is evil. It causes people to separate themselves and create a barrier between each other and not just accept that they are all humans. I admit, I don't like Europe's tolerance for Islamic culture, but for different reasons. Europe shouldn't reject it because they want to 'preserve their European culture' but because it is violent and dangerous. Besides, Europe screwed up the culture of Africa and Meso/South America so I could care less what happens to their culture.

I wish people knew what Nationalism was.

Too many liberals like Orthonorm on this thread.

I didn't bring up race at all. I perfectly know what Nationalism is. It is a sense of pride that people (of whatever race) inhabiting a particular area or region take in their culture and history. I think that it is a bad philosophy because it leads to people thinking they are better than others and separating themselves from other humans, ultimately leading to war and hatred.

No, you are talking out of your butt again, just like your Hitler and Mussolini comments. That is not what Nationalism is. It has nothing to do with pride. Everything to do with preserving a way of life. It doesn't require anyone to think you are better than others, just different. Differences make the world a much better, and more interesting place.

Nationalism - placing primary emphasis on promotion of a regions culture and way of life


I recommending you do more reading on subjects before you post about them. Like the Hitler and Mussolini comments.
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« Reply #13442 on: October 19, 2012, 08:47:54 PM »
...what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?

Because they aren’t, unless they came from Africa.  There are several nations where blacks are indigenous and calling them African is an insult.  African is a continental identity, not a race.  It makes as much sense as calling every white person European or every person of Latin heritage Mexican.  Call a Puerto Rican Mexican and count the seconds before you find yourself face down on the sidewalk.  There is a reason in most areas of business people are broken down into basic categories.  White, Black, Asian, Pacific American, Hispanic, other.  Charlize Theron is African.  Aboriginals are Australian.  Whites are Greek, Italian, Russian, etc.  See what I mean?

My point was, he called one group "Asians". So you think they are all the same?

I was arguing the same point you were, and then you attack me?

That's my point, please don't jump to conclusions if you don't read the entirety of the conversation. Thanks.

P.S. My fiancee is Puerto Rican, they do get upset if you call them Mexican.
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« Reply #13443 on: October 19, 2012, 08:54:27 PM »
...what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?

Because they aren’t, unless they came from Africa.  There are several nations where blacks are indigenous and calling them African is an insult.  African is a continental identity, not a race.  It makes as much sense as calling every white person European or every person of Latin heritage Mexican.  Call a Puerto Rican Mexican and count the seconds before you find yourself face down on the sidewalk.  There is a reason in most areas of business people are broken down into basic categories.  White, Black, Asian, Pacific American, Hispanic, other.  Charlize Theron is African.  Aboriginals are Australian.  Whites are Greek, Italian, Russian, etc.  See what I mean?

My point was, he called one group "Asians". So you think they are all the same?

I was arguing the same point you were, and then you attack me?

That's my point, please don't jump to conclusions if you don't read the entirety of the conversation. Thanks.

P.S. My fiancee is Puerto Rican, they do get upset if you call them Mexican.

Oops.  My mistake.  My apologies.

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« Reply #13444 on: October 19, 2012, 08:55:32 PM »
...what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?

Because they aren’t, unless they came from Africa.  There are several nations where blacks are indigenous and calling them African is an insult.  African is a continental identity, not a race.  It makes as much sense as calling every white person European or every person of Latin heritage Mexican.  Call a Puerto Rican Mexican and count the seconds before you find yourself face down on the sidewalk.  There is a reason in most areas of business people are broken down into basic categories.  White, Black, Asian, Pacific American, Hispanic, other.  Charlize Theron is African.  Aboriginals are Australian.  Whites are Greek, Italian, Russian, etc.  See what I mean?

My point was, he called one group "Asians". So you think they are all the same?

I was arguing the same point you were, and then you attack me?

That's my point, please don't jump to conclusions if you don't read the entirety of the conversation. Thanks.

P.S. My fiancee is Puerto Rican, they do get upset if you call them Mexican.

Oops.  My mistake.  My apologies.

It's okay, probably poor wording on my part.


P.S. I notice I type like a jerk in some of my posts...yikes. I'll try to stop that.
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« Reply #13445 on: October 19, 2012, 08:58:17 PM »
Too many liberals ...on this thread.



All we need is Iconodule to join the party.

If the whole world doesn't end up looking like the Brazilians, like in that article, he would say the world was racist.
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« Reply #13446 on: October 19, 2012, 09:48:36 PM »
...what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?

Because they aren’t, unless they came from Africa.  There are several nations where blacks are indigenous and calling them African is an insult.  African is a continental identity, not a race.  It makes as much sense as calling every white person European or every person of Latin heritage Mexican.  Call a Puerto Rican Mexican and count the seconds before you find yourself face down on the sidewalk.  There is a reason in most areas of business people are broken down into basic categories.  White, Black, Asian, Pacific American, Hispanic, other.  Charlize Theron is African.  Aboriginals are Australian.  Whites are Greek, Italian, Russian, etc.  See what I mean?

My point was, he called one group "Asians". So you think they are all the same?

I was arguing the same point you were, and then you attack me?

That's my point, please don't jump to conclusions if you don't read the entirety of the conversation. Thanks.

P.S. My fiancee is Puerto Rican, they do get upset if you call them Mexican.

Oops.  My mistake.  My apologies.

It's okay, probably poor wording on my part.


P.S. I notice I type like a jerk in some of my posts...yikes. I'll try to stop that.

It happens.  I do it as well without meaning to do so.

The problem I find with ethnicity is no matter what is done to make things accurate in wording, someone somewhere is going to be offended.  
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« Reply #13447 on: October 19, 2012, 09:58:30 PM »
The problem I find with ethnicity is no matter what is done to make things accurate in wording, someone somewhere is going to be offended.  

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« Reply #13448 on: October 19, 2012, 10:11:27 PM »
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« Reply #13449 on: October 19, 2012, 10:31:23 PM »
Why do White women always fall for minority men?

They don't. A lot of women that I know are disgusted with the idea, even those who pretend to be left-wing hippies.

See my comments about Europe above . . .

It's the same way in America, genius.

Not where I have lived. Sorry, you are lost here. (Read you comments above about non-Nowegians living Oslo.)

I've stayed for more than a year in more than a few places in this country as well as in Europe.

At one time, mixed couples might have been more tolerated in Europe.

Not any more.



I second this in defense of the homeland!  Here in Arizona, white people frequently have relationships with Asians, Hispanics, and black people.

They do that in nearly every part of Western Europe. Genius.

P.S. If you call Asians "Asians", what is wrong with calling black people "Africans"?

The same reason I don't refer to Spaniards as Iberians: common usage.
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« Reply #13450 on: October 19, 2012, 10:41:53 PM »
Nationalism - placing primary emphasis on promotion of a regions culture and way of life

IMO it's a bit more than this. Usually various Nationalisms seem to have an idea that large geographic areas with diverse cultures somehow form a unified nation and political borders must be based on these nations. For example in case of Finland there was no such things as "Finland" as an unified entity before nationalists invented the idea that all Finnish-speaking people somehow consist a nation.
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« Reply #13451 on: October 19, 2012, 11:21:33 PM »
I wonder how the weather will be tomorrow; today was pretty sunny.

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« Reply #13452 on: October 19, 2012, 11:25:10 PM »
I wonder how the weather will be tomorrow; today was pretty sunny.

Actually it was overcast with a slight drizzle.

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« Reply #13453 on: October 19, 2012, 11:43:59 PM »
Nationalism - placing primary emphasis on promotion of a regions culture and way of life

IMO it's a bit more than this. Usually various Nationalisms seem to have an idea that large geographic areas with diverse cultures somehow form a unified nation and political borders must be based on these nations. For example in case of Finland there was no such things as "Finland" as an unified entity before nationalists invented the idea that all Finnish-speaking people somehow consist a nation.

Funny thing about nationalism- instead of preserving diversity like some nationalists claim, it homogenizes people within its chosen borders under a new national myth. So now for instance in Mexico all kinds of people are identifying with Aztec culture even though lots of tribes were not exactly buddies with the Aztecs.
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« Reply #13454 on: October 19, 2012, 11:52:43 PM »
I wonder how the weather will be tomorrow; today was pretty sunny.

Actually it was overcast with a slight drizzle.

Stop lying.

No, there was light to moderate cloud cover and no chance of rain.
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