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« Reply #1215 on: June 14, 2006, 10:14:23 AM »

Oh, and if Chris still reads this thread (please do) - we'll have a discussion about the trip in Constantinople; it was amazing!

Cleveland and Serb1389,

Yes, I still keep track of this thread, even thogh I hate myself for doing so...

Good to see you back, Clevaki!

Good to read you're still keeping in touch, Serbaki! (your alias doesn't make for a good affectionate diminutive...)


I work second shift at a factory..maybe we can chat some evening in OC.net's chatroom?

Others may be interested too.. GiC, Red Deacon, etc
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« Reply #1216 on: June 14, 2006, 10:26:52 AM »

I would love to do that! 

I'm still trying to figure out how that thing works, and using it would be an awesome first step!   Wink  Grin
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« Reply #1217 on: June 17, 2006, 07:17:13 AM »

Day 1 - Day 2: May 31-June1.  Flying in and Getting Settled.

The group's rendez-vous was to be at the Boston Airport.  Of the 14 going (13 students, 1 prof; 11 guys, 3 ladies) 11 were in Boston already, and 3 (including yours truly) had to fly in that day and meet up with the rest.  So it was for me, I got up early and had an 11:50 flight to Boston.  Once I got to the airport, I chilled in the bar right outside of security with some dude from Ireland, talking soccer.  (Helpful hint from the dude: if ever visiting Ireland, specifically Dublin, the only 2 things to see in Dublin are the Beer and Whiskey factories.  He says the rest of the city is worthless; go to smaller towns or to the countryside for the rest of your sightseeing.)

After a couple of hours, the rest of the group arrived.  We were flying British Air that day, Boston-London-Istambul.  Comfy trip for the most part, and the staff was excellent.  747 to London was nice, but we got to the airport a bit later than we anticipated, and we had to scramble to get from one end of the airport to the other for our connecting flight to Istambul.  (Some almost didn't make it, which would have been quite the predicament.)

When we got to Istambul, we were greeted by two members of the Patriarchal staff: Dn. Bessarion, and Mr. Emmanuel Wedlock, who works in the English office of the EP.  The two very kind gentlemen took us out to a charter bus (which in Turkey is quite a bit shorter than ours here, largely because our style busses wouldn't fit around the tight turns of the Istambul alleyways) and we headed off for the port in the Old City.  Along the way we traveled near the old Sea Walls, and Mr. Wedl. pointed out some of the monuments we passed: the city walls, the Golden Gate, Agia Sophia, etc.  When we got to the port, we realized that we had a bit of time to kill before the next boat to Halki Island (where we were going to stay). 

So we proceeded across the street to the other side, where we went to a restaurant built into a bridge (it was quite nice; Turkish ice cream and Turkish tea were actually quite good).  After the brief rest we went to a Mosque across another street - we had to actually go under the street to cross (we also got the first of many warnings about the pickpockets in Istambul, who appear to be quite numerous and definitely a serious problem).  We didn't really enter the Mosque (a few people did), but instead stood outside in the Atrium there, and listened to the Deacon talk about how the Moslems borrowed much from the Rum (Turkish for Roman, and the name they give to the Orthodox to this day) in Istambul after the conquest, especially in architecture.  The Mosque we were standing near borrowed most of its design from Roman era Churches, including the aforementioned Atrium and the domes, to name a few.

We then proceeded back across the street to the port and caught the ferry boat to Halki Island.  The trip took us to the Asian side of the city, and then to the "Prince's Islands" - a group of 4 inhabited islands in the Sea of Marmara.  Halki is the third, called heybeliada in Turkish (meaning "donkey saddle," obviously referring to what they think the Island is shaped like), and is quite beautiful.  When we got there we discovered that automobiles are forbidden on the Island (there are only 3 motorized cars there, for specific reasons); there was a flat horsecart waiting to take our stuff up, and we all hopped on horse carriages to take us up the shortest of the hills, the peak of which had Holy Trinity Monastery (always has been a monastery, and for a long period of time included a Patriarchal High School and the Theological School).

After being greeted by Fr. Dorotheos (who had been informed that only 8 of us were coming), we settled into the rooms.  The Monastery is still in pretty good conditions, which seemed to be an indication of their constant state of preparedness for the unlikely event that the school will be re-opened.  We enjoyed a wonderful meal - the first of our countless 5 and 6 and 7 course meals that would be had in Turkey.  Like the others, it was very simple (easy to make, not complicated dishes, and quite inexpensive), very fresh, and quite tasty.  We met the Metropolitan who is the Abbot of the Monastery, who was quite kind to us.  After settling who would sleep where, we had some time to settle in and (finally) rest.

Interesting footnote: Dn. Stephen (a member of the trip) and I had discussed an article he had read in some magazine about "cool" traveling; this was obviously one of those neo-trendy type articles.  Anyway, according to him, the more flight connections and modes of transportation, the cooler your trip was.  And only the coolest trips included non-motorized transport.  He and I then measured the coolness of our first-day trips (since we both had to fly into Boston that day): car, 3 flights, bus, boat, horse-cart.  According to the standard of the article (which was probably written by some moron anyway), we had to have been the coolest travelers on earth those first two days.
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« Reply #1218 on: June 17, 2006, 10:37:20 AM »

Hate to burts your bubble but you're not cool.  You have never been cool.  Nor will you ever BE cool.  .... Period.

 Grin Grin

That definately sounds like a trip back to the old country.  Except for without all the boats  Wink Wink

I'll have to bother you for the rest of the story when I get back to school since i'm leaving home today.  See you guys in August!

Hopefully by then this topic will have 100 pages! 

Also, if someone could make sure that this topic stays on top of the Free-For-All section that would be great! 
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« Reply #1219 on: June 24, 2006, 05:39:54 PM »

Well, I can't promise that it will stay at the top of FFA; but I will continue to write about the trip....
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« Reply #1220 on: June 29, 2006, 03:27:49 PM »

So I've decided that my story of the trip to the 'nople will be sent in to Webdespota to add to the staggering collection of articles that are currently online here at OC.net.  I figure that since I told him I would be a contributor, and since I haven't made any contributions yet, my 5 or 6 part account of the Patriarchal City would be a good place to start.
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« Reply #1221 on: June 29, 2006, 03:28:15 PM »

Oh, and Chris becomes Dn. Chris today!
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« Reply #1222 on: July 03, 2006, 01:25:19 PM »

AXIOS!!!!  Congradulations Chris!!!  I'm really happy and exited for you! 

Good luck in whatever ministry they have you doing!!!!!! 
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« Reply #1223 on: July 03, 2006, 05:18:15 PM »

Alabama will be lucky to be getting such a good man.
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« Reply #1224 on: July 06, 2006, 01:11:20 PM »

We want more travel accounts!!!

(I like the style, btw...keep 'em coming)
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« Reply #1225 on: July 06, 2006, 01:14:11 PM »

Me, too...In fact, wouldn't it be cool to have travel accounts as contributions that may have an Orthodox theme to it? (OCMC Mission Trip, the C'nople Trip, Kiev, etc.)

Just thinking out loud...if anyone wants to contribute, please PM me!
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« Reply #1226 on: July 06, 2006, 02:08:38 PM »

The only travel accounts lately is how I always fly by the entrance to camp at about 70mph...every time :/
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« Reply #1227 on: July 06, 2006, 02:31:16 PM »

hey cleveland..

can you sneak me a Greek club card so i can go to the clergy-laity conference and hear some of these workshops???  Or are the workshops free?  I'm assuming it's byob.

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« Reply #1228 on: July 06, 2006, 04:56:45 PM »

I'm not sure about the fees for the workshops.. but I do know that the conference was advertising in some of the Greek publications about the workshops. 

Try http://www.clergylaity.org/ to see if they're free, or if there is a cost.
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« Reply #1229 on: July 06, 2006, 04:58:38 PM »

Oh, and as for the travel account, I'm finishing the other 325 chapters of it, and will be finished asap, so Anastasios can post it in the Articles section of the site.

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« Reply #1230 on: July 18, 2006, 11:23:12 PM »

Okay, and by "finishing" I mean procrastinating constantly.... It's not writers block - it's overextension.  Of course, prepping for a cousin's wedding does take some time that would be spent writing....
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« Reply #1231 on: July 19, 2006, 09:13:09 AM »

We want more travel accounts!!!



Don't ever say that to the Finance or Accounting department on account of you might end up having a few paychecks become "misguided" in the massive accounting system  Wink

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« Reply #1232 on: July 19, 2006, 09:20:56 AM »


Don't ever say that to the Finance or Accounting department on account of you might end up having a few paychecks become "misguided" in the massive accounting system  Wink

-nick

"Misguided" paychecks?  What happened, they joined a gang and now rough up innocent W-2's on the street?
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« Reply #1233 on: July 19, 2006, 09:54:08 AM »

"Misguided" paychecks?ÂÂ  What happened, they joined a gang and now rough up innocent W-2's on the street?

LOL!ÂÂ  Grin

That's what happens when parents don't bring up their checks in the orthodox church!

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« Reply #1234 on: July 19, 2006, 10:17:11 AM »

LOL!  Grin

That's what happens when parents don't bring up their checks in the orthodox church!

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« Reply #1235 on: July 19, 2006, 02:36:54 PM »

Gives a new meaning to the word tithe doesn't it?


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« Reply #1236 on: July 19, 2006, 04:53:56 PM »

This post is just because it wasn't fun enough bouncing between two other becoming-useless threads.
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« Reply #1237 on: July 19, 2006, 04:56:32 PM »

THis is the only useless-thread for me!
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« Reply #1238 on: July 19, 2006, 04:57:41 PM »

Hey, the font in your signature isn't big enough.  It's still not grabbing my attention enough.

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« Reply #1239 on: July 19, 2006, 05:01:13 PM »

You know, it's the gesture that is important.

Remember, I do

Love Big Fonts,

just in case you forgot.
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« Reply #1240 on: July 19, 2006, 05:02:57 PM »

Shameless plug!  Shameless plug!

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« Reply #1241 on: July 19, 2006, 05:42:00 PM »

Yes.

Not that I endorse shameless (Sts. Constantine and Helen's Greek Festival, Cleveland Heights, OH - Aug 17-20) plugs or subliminal (good food, George doing church tours, Greek dancing and music, iconography) messages.
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« Reply #1242 on: July 19, 2006, 06:03:20 PM »

You know, it's the gesture that is important.

Remember, I do

Love Big Fonts,

just in case you forgot.

I'm sorry, that makes me think of Baptismal fonts not type styles.  Cheesy

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« Reply #1243 on: July 19, 2006, 06:20:13 PM »

I like big fonts and I cannot lie, you Christian brothas can't deny, that when a Church gets built with a little alcove and a great big massive font you get dunked...
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« Reply #1244 on: July 19, 2006, 08:34:20 PM »

I like big fonts and I cannot lie, you Christian brothas can't deny, that when a Church gets built with a little alcove and a great big massive font you get dunked...

Wow, George, wow.
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« Reply #1245 on: July 19, 2006, 09:05:18 PM »

i know... impressive.
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« Reply #1246 on: July 20, 2006, 01:36:06 AM »

Well, that may be one of the words I was thinking of Grin
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« Reply #1247 on: July 20, 2006, 06:58:58 AM »

Better than calling me loony, I suppose.
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« Reply #1248 on: July 20, 2006, 09:02:47 AM »

I like big fonts and I cannot lie, you Christian brothas can't deny, that when a Church gets built with a little alcove and a great big massive font you get dunked...

So...what tone is this chanted in?
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« Reply #1249 on: July 20, 2006, 11:15:42 AM »

So a priest, a minister and a rabbi get into a boat...
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« Reply #1250 on: July 20, 2006, 05:58:00 PM »

So...what tone is this chanted in?

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« Reply #1251 on: July 21, 2006, 08:39:09 AM »

So...what tone is this chanted in?

If it's designed for you, then its in Second Brown Note.
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« Reply #1252 on: July 21, 2006, 08:45:35 AM »

If it's designed for you, then its in Second Brown Note.

LOL!!!!

Of course, this joke would have to take some 'splaining....
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« Reply #1253 on: July 21, 2006, 09:06:38 AM »

That's no fun... let them guess!

Oh, BTW: I think you're getting 3 or 4 semi-Arians on Sunday.  Chris and Leftheri are coming, and I don't remember if they're picking up George A and James in Nashville on the way down.
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« Reply #1254 on: July 21, 2006, 09:48:11 AM »

That's no fun... let them guess!

Oh, BTW: I think you're getting 3 or 4 semi-Arians on Sunday.ÂÂ  Chris and Leftheri are coming, and I don't remember if they're picking up George A and James in Nashville on the way down.

Sounds like quite the setting: The Hammer is without Chipmunk Man, but with his trusty teenage sidekick Mallet and Mallet's friend Lefty. Will The Steeler and Mr. X From Tennessee join in with the forces of liturgical ineptitude?

meanwhile, speculation is rampant that Hellenic Man will also appear. This also begs the question: why will The Hammer, Hellenic Man, and mild-mannered restaurant worker Χριστοφορος Παπαχατζιχαρνερακιπουλουνιδες never show up at the same place and the same time?
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« Reply #1255 on: July 21, 2006, 10:49:31 AM »

They are threatening to throw me in the car (in whatever condition I am in at the time) and haul me down; I don't know how well it will go over with the fam if I leave my sister's wedding reception early.
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« Reply #1256 on: July 21, 2006, 11:00:41 AM »

They are threatening to throw me in the car (in whatever condition I am in at the time) and haul me down; I don't know how well it will go over with the fam if I leave my sister's wedding reception early.

(evil chris in his manipulative mode...)

Not to make you feel guilty or anything but...

what's that one verse about being unworthy if "...you love your mother or father more than me"?

Actually, you could have a similar scene as in Patton when he discusses how his troops could exit from a fight with the Germans, move 100 miles, and pick up the fight again in winter. You could talk about how you chanted a wedding in Serbian, English, and Greek, attended the reception, relocated 600 miles or so, and attended an ordination the next day...

Quite the feather in the cap, as you say. Plus, Connie will be there...
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« Reply #1257 on: July 22, 2006, 12:57:11 AM »

Quite the feather in the cap, as you say. Plus, Connie will be there...

Θαύμα!  Miracle!

I wish I could go... and maybe my presence will be a surprise.  But I'm 99.99% sure I can't, considering it's my sister's wedding and all...
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« Reply #1258 on: July 22, 2006, 01:04:27 AM »

Yeah, but you do have a habit of randomly appearing in places that are far away from where you originally were.  So, anything's possible....
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« Reply #1259 on: July 22, 2006, 01:05:48 AM »

True, true.  Maybe I'll have some heart-to-heart with the folks, and will all of a sudden find myself 700 miles away from Cleveland, prepping for services with the Bishop...
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