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Is turning down a $300,000 a year pro soccer contract to stay in school and get my degree a dumb idea? Because my whole family thinks so... Yeah, most of college is a racket. Take the contract, for God's sake!!!
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« Reply #10217 on: October 11, 2011, 11:27:46 PM » |
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The thing is if you were to drop college and go pro, who knows what could happen in the future? Atleast you know more about your future in school than out of it.
300K a year is alot of dough, my good friend plays for the Carolina Panthers and only makes around 100k-ish, yeah he's a rookie too.
How long is that contract?
Yeah, problem is it is to play in Germany. lol. And it's only 1 year, with an option of 2 more depending.
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« Reply #10218 on: October 11, 2011, 11:28:40 PM » |
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Couldn't you go back to school later?
Also, wouldn't your contract include clauses to ditch a lot of the other sporting stuff you do?
I could...but I doubt I would...I know myself too well. lol And heck yeah. Id have to practically stop doing other sports.
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« Reply #10219 on: October 11, 2011, 11:28:51 PM » |
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GERMANY?
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« Reply #10220 on: October 11, 2011, 11:29:49 PM » |
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« Reply #10221 on: October 11, 2011, 11:33:00 PM » |
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JKing. You know what you've got to do. There are very good arguments for both options.
But seriously, $300,000? There wouldn't be much that I WOULDN'T do for that money, sad to say.
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« Reply #10224 on: October 11, 2011, 11:45:14 PM » |
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Is turning down a $300,000 a year pro soccer contract to stay in school and get my degree a dumb idea? Because my whole family thinks so...
Ignore everyone but me. Take the offer. No online school. No girlfriend. Don't even worry about your future. You have plenty of time for school if that is needed later. You are very young and ain't dropping out just to kick around the country in a van with your buds playing music. This is big leagues boy. Focus. You have it or you wouldn't be here. No school. No girl. They don't exist for they next year or so. Full on soccer. If you do otherwise, you know it as well I as I do, you will regret it later. The only reason you are posting it here besides wanting egotistical props, which are deserved, is because you already know what you are going to do and want others to support you. Even a buncha strangers on the internetz. One time thing. You did it. Don't wuss out.
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« Reply #10225 on: October 11, 2011, 11:46:15 PM » |
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What FC is it?
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« Reply #10226 on: October 11, 2011, 11:48:10 PM » |
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It's Germany. That is a game changer. (At least for me.)
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« Reply #10227 on: October 11, 2011, 11:48:48 PM » |
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It's Germany. That is a game changer. (At least for me.)
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Do you put on hold a relationship that is probably going to go nowhere and a life you can easily go back to for something you are supremely gifted to do and enjoy for $300,000 / year with the chance to be among the greatest and up your gift? The only answer is yes.
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« Reply #10229 on: October 11, 2011, 11:52:08 PM » |
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It's Germany. That is a game changer. (At least for me.)
Who cares where it is. Nearly anyone on this board in his relative position would nearly kill to be in it, when they were his age. Good for him.
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« Reply #10230 on: October 11, 2011, 11:54:25 PM » |
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Do you put on hold a relationship that is probably going to go nowhere and a life you can easily go back to for something you are supremely gifted to do and enjoy for $300,000 / year with the chance to be among the greatest and up your gift? The only answer is yes. I agree with this except for the relationship bit.
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It's Germany. That is a game changer. (At least for me.)
Who cares where it is. Nearly anyone on this board in his relative position would nearly kill to be in it, when they were his age. Good for him. I know. But I think that + seeing the world also adds more to it. My two cents. It sounds like a great experience, although I would personally have a hard time tearing myself away from school. But not everybody has to make that jump right away.
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« Reply #10232 on: October 12, 2011, 12:01:02 AM » |
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Do you put on hold a relationship that is probably going to go nowhere and a life you can easily go back to for something you are supremely gifted to do and enjoy for $300,000 / year with the chance to be among the greatest and up your gift? The only answer is yes. I agree with this except for the relationship bit. Many have screwed their dreams for a young romance. When your dreams are tiny, a relationship can be had, when you go big time and you are just starting to get into one, time to get out and have a singular goal. That is not to say he can play the field so to speak . . . But I guess that wouldn't be Christian. I am just saying no American college relationship should be entering the equation here. This is serious stuff. This ain't college puppy love soccerz. Unless she is gong along and in fully on board team Celtic Fan. And that is almost never the case. I've seen people lose less over as much. Celtic represent OC.net.
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« Reply #10233 on: October 12, 2011, 12:06:15 AM » |
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It's Germany. That is a game changer. (At least for me.)
Who cares where it is. Nearly anyone on this board in his relative position would nearly kill to be in it, when they were his age. Good for him. I know. But I think that + seeing the world also adds more to it. My two cents. It sounds like a great experience, although I would personally have a hard time tearing myself away from school. But not everybody has to make that jump right away. BS. Someone gave you $300,000 for a year to possibly be at the world top level of doing what you love, you wouldn't have put school on hold for a year? For something where you might make your mark among the greatest where school is irrelevant for your life? Nonsense. But most of us don't get these chances, cause we don't have that degree of giftedness in things the world so values and also lack the focus to really craft those skills. CF does so far. Ain't many humans on the planet getting CF's chance. If you ain't been in that position or close to someone who has been, it is easy to write off for many reasons. Go CF!
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« Reply #10234 on: October 12, 2011, 12:09:50 AM » |
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Many have screwed their dreams for a young romance. Keyword is on many, not all. As someone who was ditched for a scholarship, I can tell you she regrets it everyday. When your dreams are tiny, a relationship can be had, when you go big time and you are just starting to get into one, time to get out and have a singular goal. Considering celtic just got into a new relationship maybe it's easier for him to let that person go. Me personally would I choose 300k for one year and give up a relationship that could outvalue that amount over time? Fame, money, etc never meant anything to me. I am just saying no American college relationship should be entering the equation here. This is serious stuff. This ain't college puppy love soccerz. I know plenty of American college relationships that have become great marriages, again it comes down to if celtic values the relationship enough to stay, I would assume not. But if it was a longterm relationship with true marriage potential, would I put that aside for a 300k/one year gig? My answer would be no.
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Strangely, considering how much I hate sports and value romantic relationships, I actually agree entirely and completely with this. Is turning down a $300,000 a year pro soccer contract to stay in school and get my degree a dumb idea? Because my whole family thinks so...
Ignore everyone but me. Take the offer. No online school. No girlfriend. Don't even worry about your future. You have plenty of time for school if that is needed later. You are very young and ain't dropping out just to kick around the country in a van with your buds playing music. This is big leagues boy. Focus. You have it or you wouldn't be here. No school. No girl. They don't exist for they next year or so. Full on soccer. If you do otherwise, you know it as well I as I do, you will regret it later. The only reason you are posting it here besides wanting egotistical props, which are deserved, is because you already know what you are going to do and want others to support you. Even a buncha strangers on the internetz. One time thing. You did it. Don't wuss out.
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Achronos, you are one romantic dude. I would just FOLLOW Mr. Ismi for 300 grand! LOL. He doesn't have to choose me. I won't be offended. 
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The flipside is that if the relationship is so great, it can survive the distance. Many have screwed their dreams for a young romance. Keyword is on many, not all. As someone who was ditched for a scholarship, I can tell you she regrets it everyday. When your dreams are tiny, a relationship can be had, when you go big time and you are just starting to get into one, time to get out and have a singular goal. Considering celtic just got into a new relationship maybe it's easier for him to let that person go. Me personally would I choose 300k for one year and give up a relationship that could outvalue that amount over time? Fame, money, etc never meant anything to me. I am just saying no American college relationship should be entering the equation here. This is serious stuff. This ain't college puppy love soccerz. I know plenty of American college relationships that have become great marriages, again it comes down to if celtic values the relationship enough to stay, I would assume not. But if it was a longterm relationship with true marriage potential, would I put that aside for a 300k/one year gig? My answer would be no.
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Or this. Achronos, you are one romantic dude.
I would just FOLLOW Mr. Ismi for 300 grand!
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Achronos, you are one romantic dude. I would just FOLLOW Mr. Ismi for 300 grand! LOL. He doesn't have to choose me. I won't be offended.  LOL of course, but we are saying if this person couldn't. I could blow 300k in a day though.
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Yes, if Celtic Fan takes the contract, we will then next help him decide how to spend that moolah.
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« Reply #10243 on: October 12, 2011, 01:16:40 AM » |
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Is turning down a $300,000 a year pro soccer contract to stay in school and get my degree a dumb idea? Because my whole family thinks so...
One idea I've heard is that you should jump on the opportunity to play professionally while you still can, since the window for earning an income as a professional athlete is rather small and the field so uber competitive. Continue playing as a college athlete, and a serious injury may ruin your chances of ever going pro--such s**t does happen. You can always go back to school after you're body is broken down enough that you can't play anymore.
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« Reply #10250 on: October 12, 2011, 11:38:39 AM » |
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Is turning down a $300,000 a year pro soccer contract to stay in school and get my degree a dumb idea? Because my whole family thinks so...
Ignore everyone but me. Take the offer. No online school. No girlfriend. Don't even worry about your future. You have plenty of time for school if that is needed later. You are very young and ain't dropping out just to kick around the country in a van with your buds playing music. This is big leagues boy. Focus. You have it or you wouldn't be here. No school. No girl. They don't exist for they next year or so. Full on soccer. If you do otherwise, you know it as well I as I do, you will regret it later. The only reason you are posting it here besides wanting egotistical props, which are deserved, is because you already know what you are going to do and want others to support you. Even a buncha strangers on the internetz. One time thing. You did it. Don't wuss out. Actually, I have no idea what to do. I have a limited window to decide as well. 
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« Reply #10251 on: October 12, 2011, 11:40:34 AM » |
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What FC is it? Hamburger SV in Bundesliga...pretty big and popular club. One of the 4 biggest in Germany.
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« Reply #10252 on: October 12, 2011, 11:42:03 AM » |
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Congrats cf, I hope things work out whatever you decide... sounds like an awesome opportunity though.  Thanks man!
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« Reply #10253 on: October 12, 2011, 11:43:14 AM » |
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Unless she is gong along and in fully on board team Celtic Fan. And that is almost never the case. I've seen people lose less over as much.
Celtic represent OC.net. She did tell me she'd wait for me, lol. That is part of my problem, but I actually have other issues too, like worrying I'll be cut after one year, or getting injured. 
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« Reply #10254 on: October 12, 2011, 12:51:00 PM » |
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So, when do we order your shirt? 
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« Reply #10255 on: October 12, 2011, 01:51:14 PM » |
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Well, looks like I gotta switch my Bundesliga team from Hoffenheim to Hamburg....
I wish FSC showed more Bundesliga....
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« Reply #10256 on: October 12, 2011, 02:13:15 PM » |
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Is turning down a $300,000 a year pro soccer contract to stay in school and get my degree a dumb idea? Because my whole family thinks so...
Normally it would be none of my business, but you asked so... I am with your family. If you play soccer for five years at 300k a year, you will probably be better off than if you get a degree in most things where it would take decades to rake in that kind of dough. At my current pay rate it will take me 45 years to get what you could in 5. And if you save properly, there is nothing saying that you cannot go back to school later on and do so with no debts.
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It is an education process for me as I learn about the psychology of spiritual apostasy. And others get the benefit of perhaps hearing righteousness for the first time.
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« Reply #10257 on: October 12, 2011, 04:05:40 PM » |
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Is turning down a $300,000 a year pro soccer contract to stay in school and get my degree a dumb idea? Because my whole family thinks so... Your family is right.
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« Reply #10258 on: October 12, 2011, 04:42:27 PM » |
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Unless she is gong along and in fully on board team Celtic Fan. And that is almost never the case. I've seen people lose less over as much.
Celtic represent OC.net. She did tell me she'd wait for me, lol. That is part of my problem, but I actually have other issues too, like worrying I'll be cut after one year, or getting injured.  Who cares? What's a year in the grand scheme of things? I have like four degrees and I'd gladly swap them for what you're being offered, haha. Do it, bro.
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The Episcopallian road is easy and wide, for many go through it to find destruction. lol sorry channeling Isa.
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« Reply #10259 on: October 12, 2011, 05:26:48 PM » |
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CF and I are in negotiations over his negotiations.
I just, literally, spoke moments ago with someone who was in a similar but arguably more risky situation.
They followed my advice and things are on a roll.
More info to come on that story. Let's just say soon I will be adding a knight or two to my celeb impress list.
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage.
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