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Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« on: April 15, 2019, 02:24:19 PM »
"A spokesman for the cathedral said the whole structure was "burning".

"There will be nothing left", he said.

The blaze broke out on Monday afternoon and an area surrounding the building has been cleared."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47941794

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2019, 02:27:10 PM »
This is painful, so painful to watch.  :'( :'(

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2019, 02:47:18 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2019, 02:55:17 PM »
Is probably going to get rebuilt. (Or Renovated)
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2019, 03:01:05 PM »
Such a tragedy. My prayers go out.

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2019, 03:17:07 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.

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The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2019, 04:48:11 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 05:02:39 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

It is indeed eerily symbolic.

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2019, 05:07:46 PM »
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/report-warns-of-increasing-anti-christian-hostility-in-france/131788.htm

High number of anti Christian attacks, on monuments, statues, people, and churches. This has only been getting worse, but officials refuse to address the problem because imo they are scared to be labeled islamaphobic

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2019, 05:12:56 PM »
In a hurry to get the thread bumped to Politics, are we?

The fire department is ruling it an accident so far. Unclench. They've got this.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2019, 05:47:02 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

What is the reason for you to make such a claim about God? Have you spoken to Him lately and He told you that it might be a sign for secular France? Sorry if I sound defensive, but to try and imply that God had something to do with this tragedy is quite offensive, and does nothing but show how some Christians take pleasure in seeing others suffer.

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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2019, 05:48:42 PM »
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/report-warns-of-increasing-anti-christian-hostility-in-france/131788.htm

High number of anti Christian attacks, on monuments, statues, people, and churches. This has only been getting worse, but officials refuse to address the problem because imo they are scared to be labeled islamaphobic

Hmmm, blaming a minority for a fire? I bet first century Christians in Rome who were blamed for 64 fire would luuuuuuuve you.


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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2019, 05:57:58 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

What is the reason for you to make such a claim about God? Have you spoken to Him lately and He told you that it might be a sign for secular France? Sorry if I sound defensive, but to try and imply that God had something to do with this tragedy is quite offensive, and does nothing but show how some Christians take pleasure in seeing others suffer.

I think you misunderstand her and are wrong to accuse her like this.  There's no question this is an unspeakable tragedy.  No one is saying God directly causes tragic events, but sometimes God may allow them in order to bring people to their senses, to bring a greater good, or for his own mysterious purpose.  That is evident from history. 

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2019, 05:59:20 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

For the record, there's more than one Orthodox Church that has burned down on Pascha. Also, many holy monasteries such as Valaam have been devasted by fires as well. The whole premise that a magnificent church burns
 because God is giving them penance is for the most part ludicrous.
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2019, 06:02:07 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

For the record, there's more than one Orthodox Church that has burned down on Pascha. Also, many holy monasteries such as Valaam have been devasted by fires as well. The whole premise that a church burning down because God is giving them penance is for the most part ludicrous.

Ludicrous?  I suppose the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem had no spiritual significance either?  Just a random event I guess.   ::) 

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2019, 06:02:48 PM »
We do not even know what caused it yet.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2019, 06:03:42 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

For the record, there's more than one Orthodox Church that has burned down on Pascha. Also, many holy monasteries such as Valaam have been devasted by fires as well. The whole premise that a church burning down because God is giving them penance is for the most part ludicrous.

Ludicrous?  I suppose the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem had no spiritual significance either?  Just a random event I guess.   ::)


The destruction of the temple was specifically foretold by our Lord. Let me know when Christ told you he was going to smite the Notre Dame.
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2019, 06:06:36 PM »
Some good news, at last.



(The structure of the Notre-Dame is saved and preserved in its entirety.)
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2019, 06:06:51 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

For the record, there's more than one Orthodox Church that has burned down on Pascha. Also, many holy monasteries such as Valaam have been devasted by fires as well. The whole premise that a magnificent church burns
 because God is giving them penance is for the most part ludicrous.

I'm not saying God directly caused this at all. That would be arrogant of me. How can I know what God is thinking? I'm no prophet. But I'm just saying it is sorta eerie given that it is Catholic Holy Monday and with the recent sex abuse crisis and all... it just makes you think that's all.

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2019, 06:11:00 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

For the record, there's more than one Orthodox Church that has burned down on Pascha. Also, many holy monasteries such as Valaam have been devasted by fires as well. The whole premise that a church burning down because God is giving them penance is for the most part ludicrous.

Ludicrous?  I suppose the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem had no spiritual significance either?  Just a random event I guess.   ::)


It was specifically foretold by our Lord. Let me know when Christ told you he was going to smite the Notre Dame.

God speaks to man through events in time and history.  The belief that events are all random is a deist position  The idea of a divine creator who then stands back and watches his creation function at random from afar.  That is what's ludicrous my friend.

No, I don't know if this was God's permissive will, and neither do you.  All I said is that the timing and the symbolism is eerie and significant.  Many Catholics are saying as much given the current state of Western Christedom.

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2019, 06:15:35 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...

Frankly speaking, I think it may be a sign from God (no penance!) for laicised France, during Catholic Holy Week...

For the record, there's more than one Orthodox Church that has burned down on Pascha. Also, many holy monasteries such as Valaam have been devasted by fires as well. The whole premise that a magnificent church burns
 because God is giving them penance is for the most part ludicrous.

I'm not saying God directly caused this at all. That would be arrogant of me. How can I know what God is thinking? I'm no prophet. But I'm just saying it is sorta eerie given that it is Catholic Holy Monday and with the recent sex abuse crisis and all... it just makes you think that's all.

If that is the case, and if we are going to start speculating whether a fire was a sign from God or not, did anyone find out what God meant by the fire that engulfed the Serbian Orthodox Cathedral of St. Sava in NYC that took place on EASTER DAY couple of years ago?


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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2019, 06:21:24 PM »

If that is the case, and if we are going to start speculating whether a fire was a sign from God or not, did anyone find out what God meant by the fire that engulfed the Serbian Orthodox Cathedral of St. Sava in NYC that took place on EASTER DAY couple of years ago?




No, not every fire has to be a sign from God, but some could be.  You think God never gives signs??

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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2019, 06:25:53 PM »

If that is the case, and if we are going to start speculating whether a fire was a sign from God or not, did anyone find out what God meant by the fire that engulfed the Serbian Orthodox Cathedral of St. Sava in NYC that took place on EASTER DAY couple of years ago?




No, not every fire has to be a sign from God, but some could be.  You think God never gives signs??

I believe God gives signs. He did multiple times in my life, at one point it was clear that no person in their right mind would deny it. And I believe that tragedies like this might bring some people closer to God, for they might get a glimpse of what it looks like to lose Christianity. But to say that God did it or meant it to happen is something I'm hesitant to accept, at least not yet.

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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2019, 06:30:52 PM »

If that is the case, and if we are going to start speculating whether a fire was a sign from God or not, did anyone find out what God meant by the fire that engulfed the Serbian Orthodox Cathedral of St. Sava in NYC that took place on EASTER DAY couple of years ago?




No, not every fire has to be a sign from God, but some could be.  You think God never gives signs??

I believe God gives signs. He did multiple times in my life, at one point it was clear that no person in their right mind would deny it. And I believe that tragedies like this might bring some people closer to God, for they might get a glimpse of what it looks like to lose Christianity. But to say that God did it or meant it to happen is something I'm hesitant to accept, at least not yet.

Of course we should hesitate.  It's impossible to know for sure.  All I did was say it feels significant given the climate and state of Christianity in the West.  It's not ludicrous to have those thoughts or to wonder about it.  THat was my only beef with what Gloria Tibi Trinitas said.

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2019, 06:48:42 PM »
Maybe a worker accidentally kicked over a can of paint thinner.

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2019, 07:39:58 PM »
Lord have mercy.
I agree that it could be a sign (or maybe not, churches of all denominations and countries burn all the time). Either way, the people of France need to realize that God can help them, not just in the cathedral burning, but in everything. France needs God.
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2019, 09:21:01 PM »
The fact that this is happening during Catholic Holy Week makes it all the more shocking.
Hmmm well Jesus did cleanse the Jerusalem Temple on Holy Monday...
As well as happening two days after the Orthodox Lenten Saturday of the Akathist...when we sing "O Champion General" for the last time liturgically until next year.

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2019, 02:07:09 AM »
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/report-warns-of-increasing-anti-christian-hostility-in-france/131788.htm

High number of anti Christian attacks, on monuments, statues, people, and churches. This has only been getting worse, but officials refuse to address the problem because imo they are scared to be labeled islamaphobic

Hmmm, blaming a minority for a fire? I bet first century Christians in Rome who were blamed for 64 fire would luuuuuuuve you.

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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2019, 04:40:39 AM »
Lord have Mercy. Please pray for the people of France in this difficult time. Reports are that the Crown of Thorns was taken out in time. Notre Dame as most of us known is French for Our Lady and has historically contained many priceless treasures. May this cause all of us to turn closer toward God. Please see: "The crown of thorns, the tunic of Saint Louis and several other major works are now in a safe place," Ms Hidalgo said." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-16/notre-dame-did-the-priceless-treasures-survive-the-fire/11018792

Article from BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47943705

"...According to fire brigade spokesman Lt-Col Gabriel Plus "the whole of the roof has been devastated... a part of the vault has collapsed, the spire is no more".

However, it could have been much worse. Mr Nuñez said that, had fire crews not entered the building, "without doubt it would have collapsed", French newspaper Le Monde reported.

Photos appear to show that at least one of the cathedral's famed Rose windows has survived, although there are concerns for some of the other stained-glass windows.

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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2019, 04:56:57 AM »
Perhaps there is a metaphor here. While the outward edifice of the Cathedral of Notre Dame (a symbol of humanity’s Western architectural grandeur) was engulfed in flames, the icons, relics, and Sacraments contained within were nevertheless divinely preserved. As the Cathedral burned, many lamented the devastation inflicted upon one of Western culture’s most glorious symbols. But others wept not for Western civilization, but for the Church of God that has been perpetually victimized by Western civilization. So as we ponder this tragic conflagration, let us offer up our own idols and sins to the purifying fire of God’s redeeming grace. Let everything that does not conform to Christ be burned away, so that all that remains is love for God and love for one another.

“If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work. If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as if through the flames.” [I Corinthians 3:12-15]

“And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” [I Corinthians 13:13]


By the fires of hatred and bigotry and accidents of the fall, churches may burn to ash. But the Church herself shall remain imperishable, unconquerable, and eternally preserved.

Prayers ascending for the faithful in France who mourn the damage done to their beautiful Cathedral. A tragic beginning to their Holy Week.

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2019, 10:12:00 AM »
Well, some good news at last. Glad there is still some love for the Church in France. Hope it is rebuilt properly as a Traditional Catholic Church.

"In what some might ascribe to a holy week miracle, the interior of Notre Dame was miraculously saved last night by the more than 400 firefighters worker to suppress a devastating fire that destroyed the roof of the 850-year-old cathedral, as well as its iconic spire. In a speech delivered shortly before midnight, French President Emmanuel Macron implored the French people to join a national fundraising campaign to repair the damage, and at least one of the country's wealthiest men has already obliged.

French billionaire François-Henri Pinault said Monday night that he and his family would donate €100 million ($113 million) to the rebuilding effort. Pinault, who is chairman of Kerring group, the luxury goods powerhouse behind Gucci, Balenciaga and Yves Saint Laurent, said the money would come from his family's investment firm, Artemis.

In a statement, the billionaire, who is married to actress Selma Hayek, said he hopes that the money will help the Catholic Church "completely rebuild Notre Dame."

"My father [François Pinault] and I have decided to release as of now from the funds of Artemis a sum of 100 million euros to participate in the effort that will be necessary for the complete reconstruction of Notre Dame," he said.

Church officials and the government of France have for years sought private funds to help pay for costly renovations at the cathedral. It was in the middle of a $12.5 million renovation financed by the French state when the fire, reportedly caused by an 'accident' in the cathedral's attic, first broke out." https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-16/french-billionaires-pledge-350-million-rebuild-notre-dame

Kudos to those Catholic Billionaires who stepped up now. Hopefully, there should be no more problem and the re-building of Our Lady's Cathedral goes ahead properly. Let's pray. In honor of Our Lady and with love for Our Lord, may the good people of France try to rebuild.

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This is an over-generalization. Before the tragic East-West schism, Christianity informed every aspect of life and culture in the West. After 1517, 1789 and 1917, it is different, in both the west and in the whole world. Secularism is dominant, but there is always hope. If there was only one Church, the nations would more easily flock to Christ our King.

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2019, 11:56:38 AM »
St. Florian is the patron of firefighters, at least in the RCC, in case anyone wants to pray.
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2019, 12:36:46 PM »
I wonder how long it will be before the structure is rebuilt.
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2019, 12:46:04 PM »

If that is the case, and if we are going to start speculating whether a fire was a sign from God or not, did anyone find out what God meant by the fire that engulfed the Serbian Orthodox Cathedral of St. Sava in NYC that took place on EASTER DAY couple of years ago?




No, not every fire has to be a sign from God, but some could be.  You think God never gives signs??

I believe God gives signs. He did multiple times in my life, at one point it was clear that no person in their right mind would deny it. And I believe that tragedies like this might bring some people closer to God, for they might get a glimpse of what it looks like to lose Christianity. But to say that God did it or meant it to happen is something I'm hesitant to accept, at least not yet.

We will always be unsure whether or not this is a sign from the Lord. However I think we should behave as it is indeed a call to conversion. I think there is little doubt that we all, in the western world, as a cultural ensemble, need to convert. Conversion itself is a never ending process, and at this point we  strayed so far from His Word that we can expect to receive ever more evident and obvious reminders of the necessity and urgency of it. Our Lord does not abandon us, if we are sincerely looking for Him. I think most people here know that there has been a spate of attacks against churches in France and in Italy for the past year. It would be all to easy to ascribe these attacks to the specific cultural make up of the attackers, but I think these are also, in my mind, a very strong call to conversion. Cor mundum crea in me, Deus, et spiritum rectum innova in visceribus meis. (Psalm 51 ... or 50 :) )

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2019, 01:15:48 PM »
I wonder how long it will be before the structure is rebuilt.

A few years of closure to the public, for sure.
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2019, 01:38:20 PM »
Also, St. Germain and St. Joan are patrons of the city of Paris and of France, respectively.
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2019, 02:07:58 PM »
St. Genevieve is usually invoked as the patron of Paris. (or St. Denis)
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2019, 10:46:21 AM »
An article explaining why the fire was difficult to tackle: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47945471

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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2019, 11:00:32 AM »
Macron has said it will be rebuilt within 5 years.
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2019, 11:04:41 AM »
That seems a bit optimistic.
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2019, 11:41:27 AM »
It is. Fire doesn't destroy only what it consumes. Heat and chemicals in the smoke and soot cause damage that hasn't been assessed yet. Walls may have been destabilised, etc. The restoration may have to be far more extensive than it looks right now.
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Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris.
« Reply #43 on: Yesterday at 08:25:51 PM »
Right now investigators are leaning toward a short circuit causing the fire, but nothing has been ruled out yet.