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Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« on: June 26, 2018, 09:38:12 AM »
Kenyan Catholic priest, Father Paul Ogola has reportedly been suspended by the church leadership for rapping in church.

The 45-year-old priest has been using rap music to urge youth to stop using drugs and to get involved in environmental and social justice issues. He recently hit media headlines over his unique way of preaching the gospel and discouraging social vices such as drug abuse.
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Kochiel said Fr Ogola should have consulted with the bishops "to find out if what he was doing was in accordance with the Church doctrine.”

Fr ‘Masaa’ as he is commonly referred to in Rapogi parish would shift to his rapping regalia-black shorts, a white shirt and a headband, at the end of the mass and begin his rap sessions.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2018, 11:23:23 AM »
now that's one Heretical, priest!
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2018, 11:54:55 AM »
now that's one Heretical, priest!
I don’t think hip-hop implies a rejection of a specific Church doctrine.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2018, 12:03:26 PM »
now that's one Heretical, priest!
I don’t think hip-hop implies a rejection of a specific Church doctrine.

only traditional Christian chants in my opinion! >:(
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2018, 12:10:02 PM »
now that's one Heretical, priest!

He's so woke.  8)

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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2018, 12:22:01 PM »
Suspended? Well now. That seems rather harsh. I wonder if there's more to this. One would assume that a simple "Stop that. You're embarrassing yourself." from his Bishop would have sufficed.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2018, 03:42:50 PM »
I wonder what Young Penitent would think about this.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2018, 08:17:22 PM »
Suspended? Well now. That seems rather harsh. I wonder if there's more to this. One would assume that a simple "Stop that. You're embarrassing yourself." from his Bishop would have sufficed.

Sounds like my kind of bishop.  No-nonsense, you do it the traditional way, or get deposed kind of chap. 

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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2018, 10:01:43 AM »
He did not do this during mass. Why is justice so swift in this case but failing in so many abuse scandals? What if he was achieving positive results?
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2018, 10:24:19 AM »
He was recorded rapping while vested.  The article fails to mention that.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2018, 10:29:19 AM »
I wonder what Young Penitent would think about this.

He didn't rap about Fr. Seraphim's homosexual past for the OCnetters, so it doesn't matter.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2018, 12:11:25 PM »
He was recorded rapping while vested.  The article fails to mention that.

That was a mistake that he has acknowledged. Initially, he was doing the rapping separately from the liturgy:

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“Usually, I do this thing separately. Liturgy remains liturgy. And then talks and entertainment remain separate, so that I attract young people to come to church,” Ogalo told Kenya’s NTV that day. “I use that as bait to bring them to church, and then we catechize them and make them productive citizens of the nation, members of the Catholic Church. That’s my mission.”

It seems that recently he started rapping during the actual liturgy, and that was what got him in trouble:

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But he acknowledged that when he mixed his rapping with his sermon — and his bandanna with his robe — “that was something regrettable.”
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2018, 12:35:45 PM »
Oh, so now suddenly Rome cares about liturgical abuse.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2018, 01:15:09 PM »
Oh, so now suddenly Rome cares about liturgical abuse.

nice one  ;)
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2018, 04:00:09 PM »
now that's one Heretical, priest!
I don’t think hip-hop implies a rejection of a specific Church doctrine.

No, just a rejection of good taste.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2018, 04:13:30 PM »
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2018, 05:22:49 PM »
He did not do this during mass. Why is justice so swift in this case but failing in so many abuse scandals? What if he was achieving positive results?

To be fair, the bishop in question doesn't have any authority to other dioceses than his own.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2018, 12:50:10 AM »
Oh, so now suddenly Rome cares about liturgical abuse.
If it depended on Rome this clown would be invited to St. Peter's. Alas, it was his good African bishop who probably had him in the cross hairs (pun intended) for using the faithful as captive audience of his diatribes.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2018, 01:32:56 PM »
There was a young priest in my Roman Catholic diocese growing up who was a talented rapper. He rapped a song about the Blessed Virgin for us at a youth festival.

It's interesting to note that he was part of a sort of liturgical revival led by a few young priests who brought back Eucharistic adoration, cassocks, priest hats (I totally forget the appropriate name for these), and Latin chanting. But they also brought in the Protestant worship music. Perhaps they found anything more interesting than the Gather hymnal.
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2018, 03:50:30 PM »
There was a young priest in my Roman Catholic diocese growing up who was a talented rapper. He rapped a song about the Blessed Virgin for us at a youth festival.

It's interesting to note that he was part of a sort of liturgical revival led by a few young priests who brought back Eucharistic adoration, cassocks, priest hats (I totally forget the appropriate name for these), and Latin chanting. But they also brought in the Protestant worship music. Perhaps they found anything more interesting than the Gather hymnal.

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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
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Re: Kenyan Catholic Priest Suspended for Rapping in Church
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2018, 07:40:41 AM »
There was a young priest in my Roman Catholic diocese growing up who was a talented rapper. He rapped a song about the Blessed Virgin for us at a youth festival.

It's interesting to note that he was part of a sort of liturgical revival led by a few young priests who brought back Eucharistic adoration, cassocks, priest hats (I totally forget the appropriate name for these), and Latin chanting. But they also brought in the Protestant worship music. Perhaps they found anything more interesting than the Gather hymnal.

Attended something similar to this at a retreat at Mount Saint Mary's Seminary in Maryland when I was in my teens.  I was considering joining the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal and they were hosting the retreat.  The seminary church was beautiful and I remember praying a rosary with a seminarian early in the morning.  However, the Friars of the Renewal were a bit too "charismatic" for my tastes and i started to look at the Franciscans of the Immaculate and Franciscans of the Primitive Observance.