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I would share this to a priest but it seems or I worry the priests show no interest in my thoughts so they allow me to make sins on forums though perhaps only I am responsible. But I suppose I want to tell this to the world but if the priest could convince me it is wrong it is good.

It is our christian belief everyone is given their fair chance here so the doors of heaven are closed within now. But if that was not true for some then it would not be true only for those who if they had been preached to the same they would not be persecutors of christians if they were still alive supposing they died apparently rejecting the gospel which was not fairly given to them. So people who have a chance at eternal life still have to be alive and be judged according to the light God gave them. So the doors of heaven would be closed within after death for them. But not everyone can find Him after death according to this theory only to those not knowing the truth. But as Jesus may still be found by all now they would still have less reward for those who are not righteous and if they do not find Him. Therefore with this theory we can say only God knows who will be saved even if they die non christian. I warn that is not the christian gospel who we believe the Holy Spirit convicts the whole world of sin for not believing in Him. People are judged because they see the light is good but prefer to believe in the darkness.



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But we have a command to preach the gospel and not to add to His words as revelations says so it may not be true for some and even for all probably it is not true. It seems the devil gave me those views because I delayed posting the below which seems important.

Antichrist is the most evil but the spirit of antichrist may try to infect us a little. I may sometimes seek false peace and be afraid to offend. I sometimes am not bold because of doubt to confess Jesus is the only way to heaven. True we don't know what people choose on their death bed but I would conjecture wrongly even if they did not receive Jesus some may have hope.  I do not give excuse to people not to accept Jesus because we warn they really probably need to. Jesus is the rule if there deserves to be an exception I think there would be. But I should have confidence Jesus is the only way to heaven but I doubt sometimes. Ofcourse if there deserves to be an exception there will be but we must believe He is the only way. Anyway I believe God will witness the truth to the world if it is an evil time as it is said this gospel will be preached in all the world as a witness to the nations and then the end shall come

As for the antichrist he will come peacably.  The main job of Jesus was to show He is bringer of true peace which will be obtained when people accept Him so Jesus said "I have come in My Father name and you do not receive Me another will come in his own name him you will receive" therefore he need not claim to be God but the Messiah. Later he will claim to be God as well. He shall probably say all religions were allowed by him to exist and witnessed to him as messiah but didn't want them to know about it.
The Jews will accept him not because he is the God of the bible but they will accept him as their new God they believe in not knowing they are rejecting their God. But some of them after accepting him may realise they did wrong and reject him and will not receive the mark of the beast

Below are two opinions we should assume he will be a Jew but be prepared if he is not. So how will he blaspheme the God of Israel except by saying their conception of the God of Israel is blasphemous. So he will sit in their temple making himself God and as true representative of God of Israel.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/antichrist-myths/

Myth #6: "The Antichrist Must Be a Jew"
This myth goes along with the previous one about the Antichrist making a treaty with Israel that brings peace and allows them to build the Third Temple. The thinking is that he must be a Jew to be sympathetic to the Jews. They also base it on when Jesus said, "I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another shall come in his own name, you will receive him" (John 5:43). Because Jesus said the Jews will accept the Antichrist, people wonder how that could happen with a Gentile. The Jews ought to know the Messiah must be a Jew, right?

Yet that is assuming the Jews think the Antichrist is Messiah. As we already covered, the Antichrist won't bother trying to convince people using Bible prophecy that they should accept him. He will come in his own name (whatever name it will be adding up to 666) as God, not as the Messiah of the Jews. The Jews will accept him for the same reason everyone else will: necessity. Once they do, they will be under the Mark of the Beast and deluded into believing God is already here to the point that they would fight to defend his kingdom. There is even a prophecy showing that Judah will be part of the Beast's armies and fight against their real Messiah at his return:


Here however seems to suggest he will be jewish

The Antichrist Will be a Jew
The Antichrist — Arthur W. Pink
The Antichrist will be a Jew, though his connections, his governmental position, his sphere of dominion, will by no means confine him to the Israelitish people. It should, however, be pointed out that there is no express declaration of Scripture which says in so many words that this daring Rebel will be "a Jew;" nevertheless, the hints given are so plain, the conclusions which must be drawn from certain statements of Holy Writ are so obvious, and the requirements of the case are so inevitable, that we are forced to believe he must be a Jew. To these hints', conclusions' and requirements' we now turn.
1. In Ezek.21:25-27 we read: "and thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end, Thus saith the Lord God; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high. I will overturn, overturn, overturn it: and it shall be no more until he comes whose right it is, and I will give it him." The dispensational place and scope of this passage, is not hard to determine. The time-mark is given in v.25: it is "when iniquity shall have an end." It is the End-Time which is in view, then, the End of the Age, when "the transgressors are come to the full" (Dan.8:23 and cf.11:36 -- "Till the indignation be accomplished"). At that time Israel shall have a Prince, a Prince who is crowned (v.26), and a Prince whose day is said to be come when "iniquity shall have an end." Now, as to who this Prince is, there is surely no room for doubt. The only Prince whom Israel will have in that day, is the Son of Perdition, here termed their Prince because he will be masquerading as Messiah the Prince (see Dan.9:25)! Another unmistakable mark of identification is here given, in that he is expressly denominated "thou, profane wicked Prince" -- assuredly, it is the Man of Sin who is here in view, that impious one who shall "oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God." But what should be noted particularly, is, that this profane and wicked character is here named "Prince of Israel." He must, therefore, be of the Abrahamic stock, a Jew!

2. In Ezek.28:2-10 a remarkable description is given us of the Antichrist under the figure of "the Prince of Tyrus," just as in vv.12-19 we have another most striking delineation of Satan under the figure of "the king of Tyrus." In a later chapter we hope to show that, beyond a doubt, it is the Antichrist who is in view in the first section of this chapter. There is only one thing that we would now point out from this passage: in v.10 it is said of him "Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised," which is a very strong hint that he ought not to die the deaths of the "uncircumcised" because he belonged to the Circumcision! Should it be said that this verse cannot apply to the Antichrist because he will be destroyed by Christ Himself at His coming, the objection is very easily disposed of by a reference to Rev.13:14, which tells of the Antichrist being wounded to death by a sword and rising from the dead -- which is prior to his ultimate destruction at the hands of the Saviour.

3. In Dan.11:36, 37 we are told, "And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvelous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers." This passage, it is evident, refers to and describes none other than the coming Antichrist. But what we wish to call special attention to is the last sentence quoted -- "The God of his fathers." What are we to understand by this expression? Why, surely, that he is a Jew, an Israelite, and that his fathers after the flesh were Abraham, Isaac and Jacob -- for such is the invariable meaning of "the fathers" throughout the Old Testament Scriptures.

4. In Matt.12:43-45 we have another remarkable scripture which will be considered briefly, in a later section of this chapter, when we shall endeavor to show that "The Unclean Spirit" here is none other than the Son of Perdition, and that the "house" from which he goes out and into which he returns, is the Nation of Israel. If this can be established, then we have another proof that he will be a Jew, for this "house," which is Israel, is here termed by Antichrist "my house." Just as Solomon was of "the House of David," so Antichrist shall be of the House of Israel.

5. In John 5:43 we have a further word which helps us to fix the nationality of this coming One. In speaking of the false messiah, the Lord Jesus referred to him as follows, "Another shall come in his own name." In the Greek there are four different words all translated "Another" in our English versions. One of them is employed but once, and a second but five times, so these need not detain us now. The remaining two are used frequently, and with a clear distinction between them. The first "allos" signifies "another" of the same kind or genus -- see Matt.10:23; 13:24; 26:71, etc. The second, "heteros," means "another" of a totally different kind, -- see Mark 16:12; Luke 14:31; Acts 7:18; Rom.7:23. Now the striking thing is that the word used by our Lord in John 5:43 is "allos," another of the same genus, not "heteros," another of a different order. Christ, the Son of Abraham, the Son of David, had presented Himself to Israel, and they rejected Him; but "another" of the same Abrahamic stock should come to them, and him they would "receive." If the coming Antichrist were to be a Gentile, the Lord would have employed the word "heteros;" the fact that He used "allos" shows that he will be a Jew.

6. The very name "Antichrist" argues strongly his Jewish nationality. This title "Antichrist" has a double significance. It means that he will be one who shall be "opposed" to Christ, one who will be His enemy. But it also purports that he will be a mock Christ, an imitation Christ, a pro-Christ, a pseudo Christ. It intimates that he will ape Christ. He will pose as the real Messiah of Israel. In such case he must be a Jew.

7. This mock Christ will be "received" by Israel. The Jews will be deceived by Him. They will believe that he is indeed their long-expected Messiah. They will accept him as such. Proofs of this will be furnished in a later chapter. But if this pseudo Christ succeeds in palming himself off on the Jews as their true Messiah he must be a Jew, for it is unthinkable that they would be deceived by any Gentile.

Ere passing to the next point, we may add, that it was the common belief among Christians during the first four centuries A.D., that the Antichrist would come from the tribe of Dan. Whether this will be the case or no, we do not know. Gen.49:17, 18 may have ultimate reference to this Son of Perdition. Certainly Dan is the most mysterious of all the twelve tribes.

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http://biblehub.com/library/pink/the_antichrist/i_the_antichrist_will_be.htm
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It is only theoretical it does not work. I meant those who do not know they will not be saved and do not persecute for their own reasons and not because someone lied to them could be saved. But in reality there are no such people. The Holy Spirit convicts all but does not force them to see or want to see and believe. So in reality there are none who do not know so they are not without excuse. They just don't want to believe.

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I bet the antichrist will be a shock. He will seem the most unlikely person to believe he is antichrist because he will be the most unlikely person to believe is God. Yet will all the world follow him whose names are not written in the book of life. Therefore we have to strive to have our name written in the book of life. Even if I am unlikely to make it I hope others would be prepared and not be deceived. I wonder how can one know his name is written in the book of life when he finally achieved a certain level because paul said about some fellow workers greet them whose names are written in the book of life.

If the antichrist happens to be president at that time then he will probably ensure he will be president the next term or he does not need to stay president but will rule because people would have received his mark and become his slaves. I say this because he will make a covenant for 3.5 years and then break the covenant and reign another 3.5 years. Therefore whichever president becomes the antichrist it will become a shock if we are not preparing in those 3.5 years. We have 3.5 years to have our name written in the book of life.

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I bet the antichrist will be a shock. He will seem the most unlikely person to believe he is antichrist because he will be the most unlikely person to believe is God. Yet will all the world follow him whose names are not written in the book of life. Therefore we have to strive to have our name written in the book of life. Even if I am unlikely to make it I hope others would be prepared and not be deceived. I wonder how can one know his name is written in the book of life when he finally achieved a certain level because paul said about some fellow workers greet them whose names are written in the book of life.

If the antichrist happens to be president at that time then he will probably ensure he will be president the next term or he does not need to stay president but will rule because people would have received his mark and become his slaves. I say this because he will make a covenant for 3.5 years and then break the covenant and reign another 3.5 years. Therefore whichever president becomes the antichrist it will become a shock if we are not preparing in those 3.5 years. We have 3.5 years to have our name written in the book of life.


Forgive this if it is false humility. I do not accept condemnation for myself because it is a sin not to forgive oneself and I do not accept punishment if I do not deserve it which their behaviour to despair or not fear for their future may not be my fault but even if it is not it is not completely my fault for they are still responsible for themselves but I could have helped by not doing evil. If at the end of my life I have not repented I would still want all to go to heaven who repent and even if I go to hell now deservedly I would still want others to be saved. I could be completely responsible for some people which God will determine. But if one can be responsible and still be saved I would still suffer the least reward in heaven but not with joy because I made others go to hell.

When I say unlikely I do not mean our works disqualify us from having a chance but even if they did I would still want others to be saved even my enemies I would not wish harm on them because it is wrong for me to have them as enemies because they can repent and also to decrease my torments.


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I came back to post as I believe God led me to speak as it is a very important issue. I want to quit posting now though I have much more to say but I can wait for greater proof of assurance from God to post. Though it may be very important it can wait for greater proof of God instruction unlike this.
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