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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 07:08:57 PM »
That's pretty cool, yeah. :)
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 07:33:02 PM »
I'll feast on rad-trad tears.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 07:51:47 PM »
I'll feast on rad-trad tears.

Was he big on Liberation Theology?
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2018, 07:54:48 PM »
I'll feast on rad-trad tears.

Was he big on Liberation Theology?
Not on the hardcore kind, but yeah.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2018, 08:06:34 PM »
I'll feast on rad-trad tears.

Was he big on Liberation Theology?
Not on the hardcore kind, but yeah.

I guess for some rad trads "he didn't want to throw Communists out of helicopters" is enough to make him a heretic, though lol.


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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 08:07:15 PM »
Death squad theology!
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2018, 08:19:48 PM »
He openly identified himself as a liberation theologian, but since he wasn't hiding Communist partisans or something, this may make him a bit right-wing for this time's Latin American Catholicism, lol

No wonder why the US proxy-bombed us with low church Protestantism and prosperity theology, but that's none of my business.  :angel:
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2018, 09:40:38 PM »
There was a good movie simple titled: “ Romero” in which the late Raul Julia played him in 1989. The movie seemed pretty accurate and Romero seemed to be a Christian struggling against oppression in general.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2018, 12:24:16 AM »
I'll feast on rad-trad tears.
It'll be an all-you-can-eat buffet since Pope Paul VI is also being canonized!
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2018, 01:12:47 PM »
Im sure the trad cats will just dodge and make bs excuses as they always do to justify these actions. They dont really have a choice, just like with john paul ii.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2018, 09:19:51 PM »
btw, he was an archbishop, not a cardinal.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2018, 03:30:31 AM »
There was a good movie simple titled: “ Romero” in which the late Raul Julia played him in 1989. The movie seemed pretty accurate and Romero seemed to be a Christian struggling against oppression in general.

Great movie.

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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2018, 04:09:29 AM »
Amen, Amen, Amen to this! One of my spiritual heroes! And NO, he was not a "liberation theologian." He identified with the poor and the oppressed, and he preached the Gospel of love and peace and justice for all. But he renounced violence on all sides and in all of its insidious forms. He was murdered while conducting Mass.






















And from his final sermon:




And if you get the chance to watch the movie, "Romero", starring Raul Julia, please do. It's wonderful.

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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2018, 03:52:22 AM »
He was one of the only people in El Salvador's history who ever stood up for the poor. He started a bit more conservative and quiet, but after his friend Fr. Rutilio Grande was martyred, Romero became much more active against the government's brutal treatment of the poor. For this he's still popular in El Salvador even among the Evangelicals. When I was there last year I saw that even some Evangelical churches has his picture on the outside.

"Romero" is a great film. "Salvador" by Oliver Stone gives you more of the politics and the US involvement during the war.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2018, 04:18:39 AM »
He was one of the only people in El Salvador's history who ever stood up for the poor. He started a bit more conservative and quiet, but after his friend Fr. Rutilio Grande was martyred, Romero became much more active against the government's brutal treatment of the poor. For this he's still popular in El Salvador even among the Evangelicals. When I was there last year I saw that even some Evangelical churches has his picture on the outside.

"Romero" is a great film. "Salvador" by Oliver Stone gives you more of the politics and the US involvement during the war.

Romero is a great film indeed.

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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2018, 04:21:38 AM »
I should indeed watch this movie then. Hadn't seen Gebre's response.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2018, 10:10:03 AM »
He openly identified himself as a liberation theologian, but since he wasn't hiding Communist partisans or something, this may make him a bit right-wing for this time's Latin American Catholicism, lol
Romero was not a proponent of Marxist Liberation Theology.  From the outside, in his work with the poor and his resistance to tyranny, he could be confused with one, and he did work together with others who were proponents of such aberration, but he did not embrace this so called theology.

Unfortunately, especially abroad, the cult that Romero receives is as a cause celèbre, not a martyr for Christ, which he truly was.

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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2018, 10:46:47 AM »
Amen, Amen, Amen to this! One of my spiritual heroes! And NO, he was not a "liberation theologian." He identified with the poor and the oppressed, and he preached the Gospel of love and peace and justice for all. But he renounced violence on all sides and in all of its insidious forms. He was murdered while conducting Mass.






















And from his final sermon:




And if you get the chance to watch the movie, "Romero", starring Raul Julia, please do. It's wonderful.

Selam

I thought I had posted some photos and quotes of Archbishop Oscar Romero, but they don't seem to be showing up. Can anyone tell me if they can see them?

Selam
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2018, 12:13:34 PM »
I'll feast on rad-trad tears.
It'll be an all-you-can-eat buffet since Pope Paul VI is also being canonized!

Except in that case, the tears seem more warranted...
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2018, 05:05:06 PM »
I'll feast on rad-trad tears.
It'll be an all-you-can-eat buffet since Pope Paul VI is also being canonized!

Except in that case, the tears seem more warranted...
Precisely! An all-you-can-eat buffet of rad-trad tears! 

Clearly I should have been more specific about the contents of the buffet   :-[
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2018, 05:12:41 PM »
Amen, Amen, Amen to this! One of my spiritual heroes! And NO, he was not a "liberation theologian." He identified with the poor and the oppressed, and he preached the Gospel of love and peace and justice for all. But he renounced violence on all sides and in all of its insidious forms. He was murdered while conducting Mass.






















And from his final sermon:




And if you get the chance to watch the movie, "Romero", starring Raul Julia, please do. It's wonderful.

Selam

I thought I had posted some photos and quotes of Archbishop Oscar Romero, but they don't seem to be showing up. Can anyone tell me if they can see them?

Selam

I can't.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2018, 05:13:05 PM »
I'll feast on rad-trad tears.
It'll be an all-you-can-eat buffet since Pope Paul VI is also being canonized!

Except in that case, the tears seem more warranted...
Precisely! An all-you-can-eat buffet of rad-trad tears! 

Clearly I should have been more specific about the contents of the buffet   :-[

I think we're all kind of losing sight of the analogy lol.
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2018, 08:51:12 PM »

I thought I had posted some photos and quotes of Archbishop Oscar Romero, but they don't seem to be showing up. Can anyone tell me if they can see them?

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I can see the little boxes where the images were supposed to go. Opening that square in a new tab gives me an error. “A server with the specified hostname could not be found.” Going directly to the postimg site gives me the same error.

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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2018, 12:58:10 AM »
Amen, Amen, Amen to this! One of my spiritual heroes! And NO, he was not a "liberation theologian." He identified with the poor and the oppressed, and he preached the Gospel of love and peace and justice for all. But he renounced violence on all sides and in all of its insidious forms. He was murdered while conducting Mass.






















And from his final sermon:




And if you get the chance to watch the movie, "Romero", starring Raul Julia, please do. It's wonderful.

Selam

I thought I had posted some photos and quotes of Archbishop Oscar Romero, but they don't seem to be showing up. Can anyone tell me if they can see them?

Selam

I can't.

Ok thanks. I'll try to repost them later on.

Selam
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Re: Cardinal Romero to become saint
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2018, 02:30:20 AM »
Ok, I'm gonna try to post the images and quotes again. Hope they show up this time. Y'all let me know.





































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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2018, 02:55:28 AM »
I see them.
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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2018, 04:45:32 AM »
"Whether it’s the guillotine, the hangman’s noose, or reciprocal endeavors of militaristic horror, radical evil will never be recompensed with radical punishment. The only answer, the only remedy, and the only truly effective response to radical evil is radical love."
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2018, 05:23:43 PM »
Very powerful.
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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2018, 05:35:33 PM »
Reading about him online, a great man indeed. Even found some random texts of conservatives defending him from misled rad-trads.
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