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Help with Understanding Christ
« on: December 07, 2017, 11:48:33 AM »
If I could explain . . . Believing in Christ is like empty heaven or microcosm of light . . . Doesn't really seem to exist.
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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2017, 11:58:38 AM »
While believing in Christ, its like an empty chasm of something that doesn't exist . . . Or is light non-existent?
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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2017, 12:49:40 PM »
While believing in Christ, its like an empty chasm of something that doesn't exist . . . Or is light non-existent?

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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2017, 01:25:35 PM »
So what is empty chasm of heavenly light? ...
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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2017, 01:44:03 PM »
So what is empty chasm of heavenly light? ...

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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2017, 02:09:05 PM »
Wow, that got awkward.
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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 02:29:44 PM »
If I could explain . . . Believing in Christ is like empty heaven or microcosm of light . . . Doesn't really seem to exist.

So, what exactly is your problem with Christ - is your problem the fact that you're wondering if God exists or not? Has your prayer life been empty when you try to have a relationship with Christ? Are you having problems overcoming sin?

It seems that the intent and or cause of such a statement is rather variable.
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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 02:59:20 PM »
Maybe he needs to know why it's mixed up with the Devil? ..
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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 05:54:02 PM »
Maybe he needs to know why it's mixed up with the Devil? ..

What do you mean? Do you think that "God is evil" or wondering why the devil exists?

If you want to have a serious conversation, explain what you mean.

If you are just trolling, bug off.
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Re: Help with Understanding Christ
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 09:20:45 PM »
Listen or read  the words of Elder Seraphim (Baradel) from 1:12 to 5:30. It may help to understand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UNu9gNrpQk
Wisdom from Elder Seraphim - All our troubles come from...:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6eL2pwtVKs

The Goal of an Orthodox Monk: 'Incarnation of Love':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZishdSrYWM