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Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« on: November 20, 2017, 01:47:58 PM »
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The head of the Russian Orthodox church, Patriarch Kirill, said Monday that the end of the world is approaching, the state-run RIA Novosti news agency reports.

Following a service at the Christ the Savior Cathedral in central Moscow, Kirill told congregants that the coming apocalypse "is already visible to the naked eye.”

According to Kirill, society can unite to prevent the world from slipping into “the abyss of the end of history."

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/birthday-russia-orthodox-church-end-of-history-59626

Okay, so this is not that unusual; what really got my attention was this bit at the end:
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The Patriarch himself is approaching his own finitude, having turned 71 years old today.

To mark the occasion, the Patriarch was gifted a puppet of Saint Tikhon, who headed the Russian church a century ago, the Interfax news agency reports.

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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 02:05:56 PM »
Okay, so this is not that unusual; what really got my attention was this bit at the end:
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The Patriarch himself is approaching his own finitude, having turned 71 years old today.

To mark the occasion, the Patriarch was gifted a puppet of Saint Tikhon, who headed the Russian church a century ago, the Interfax news agency reports.

I don't speak Russian, but if you follow the links and don't go for the automatic translation, it seems "puppet" may be a (bad) translation of "koukoulion", the patriarchal headdress.

Edit: I could very well be wrong.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 02:07:42 PM by Mor Ephrem »
How this relates to the coming Antichrist? I don't know...

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The erection of one’s rod counts as a form of glory (Theophylaktos of Ohrid, A Defense of Eunuchs, p. 329).

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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 02:45:47 PM »
Okay, so this is not that unusual; what really got my attention was this bit at the end:
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The Patriarch himself is approaching his own finitude, having turned 71 years old today.

To mark the occasion, the Patriarch was gifted a puppet of Saint Tikhon, who headed the Russian church a century ago, the Interfax news agency reports.

I don't speak Russian, but if you follow the links and don't go for the automatic translation, it seems "puppet" may be a (bad) translation of "koukoulion", the patriarchal headdress.

Edit: I could very well be wrong.


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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2017, 02:48:02 PM »
Okay, so this is not that unusual; what really got my attention was this bit at the end:
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The Patriarch himself is approaching his own finitude, having turned 71 years old today.

To mark the occasion, the Patriarch was gifted a puppet of Saint Tikhon, who headed the Russian church a century ago, the Interfax news agency reports.

I don't speak Russian, but if you follow the links and don't go for the automatic translation, it seems "puppet" may be a (bad) translation of "koukoulion", the patriarchal headdress.

Edit: I could very well be wrong.

No, you're right. The word for "puppet" (кукла) is very similar to the word for "koukoulion" (куколь), and a cursory glance makes me think they descend from the same root.
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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2017, 02:50:18 PM »
Okay, so this is not that unusual; what really got my attention was this bit at the end:
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The Patriarch himself is approaching his own finitude, having turned 71 years old today.

To mark the occasion, the Patriarch was gifted a puppet of Saint Tikhon, who headed the Russian church a century ago, the Interfax news agency reports.

I don't speak Russian, but if you follow the links and don't go for the automatic translation, it seems "puppet" may be a (bad) translation of "koukoulion", the patriarchal headdress.

Edit: I could very well be wrong.

No, you're right. The word for "puppet" (кукла) is very similar to the word for "koukoulion" (куколь), and a cursory glance makes me think they descend from the same root.


spoilsport....it was more fun imagining him being handed a giant puppet and trying to figure out what to think of it or do with it
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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 02:50:57 PM »
And I thought we were seeing the start of a daring new approach to Orthodox homiletics.
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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2017, 05:26:00 PM »
Okay, so this is not that unusual; what really got my attention was this bit at the end:
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The Patriarch himself is approaching his own finitude, having turned 71 years old today.

To mark the occasion, the Patriarch was gifted a puppet of Saint Tikhon, who headed the Russian church a century ago, the Interfax news agency reports.

I don't speak Russian, but if you follow the links and don't go for the automatic translation, it seems "puppet" may be a (bad) translation of "koukoulion", the patriarchal headdress.

Edit: I could very well be wrong.

No, you're right. The word for "puppet" (кукла) is very similar to the word for "koukoulion" (куколь), and a cursory glance makes me think they descend from the same root.


spoilsport....it was more fun imagining him being handed a giant puppet and trying to figure out what to think of it or do with it

Indeed.  The thought of His Holiness with a bewildered expression surveying one of the giant paper mache puppets of doom Catholics and Episcopalians like to use in their services was amusing.

I read on an Orthodox website a blistering condemnation of the use of such giant puppets in the liturgy, derived from the use of this kind of puppet to mock Russian Orthodox clergy and other Czarist authority figures in the wake of the Bolshevik Revolution.
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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2017, 06:42:55 PM »
And I thought we were seeing the start of a daring new approach to Orthodox homiletics.
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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 06:53:01 PM »
And I thought we were seeing the start of a daring new approach to Orthodox homiletics.

A Russian version of the creepy giant puppet Masses you see in videos of conventions of the Mainline.
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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 08:14:40 PM »
Okay, so this is not that unusual; what really got my attention was this bit at the end:
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The Patriarch himself is approaching his own finitude, having turned 71 years old today.

To mark the occasion, the Patriarch was gifted a puppet of Saint Tikhon, who headed the Russian church a century ago, the Interfax news agency reports.

I don't speak Russian, but if you follow the links and don't go for the automatic translation, it seems "puppet" may be a (bad) translation of "koukoulion", the patriarchal headdress.

Edit: I could very well be wrong.

No, you're right. The word for "puppet" (кукла) is very similar to the word for "koukoulion" (куколь), and a cursory glance makes me think they descend from the same root.
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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2017, 08:33:40 PM »
So the integrity of Orthodox polemics against Catholic clown masses remains intact! Glory to God!

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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2017, 08:51:16 PM »
So the integrity of Orthodox polemics against Catholic clown masses remains intact! Glory to God!

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How this relates to the coming Antichrist? I don't know...

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The erection of one’s rod counts as a form of glory (Theophylaktos of Ohrid, A Defense of Eunuchs, p. 329).

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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2017, 12:04:43 AM »
So the integrity of Orthodox polemics against Catholic clown masses remains intact! Glory to God!

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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2017, 02:52:43 PM »
Society can unite to end the apocolypse? I think that is wrong

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Re: Head of Russian Orthodox Church Warns of 'the End of History'
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2017, 03:33:17 PM »
Society can unite to end the apocolypse? I think that is wrong

Yeah this seems like a fairly secular take on the subject. Apocolypse should mean more than "bad times because mankind couldn't get along." But maybe something was lost in translation.
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