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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #810 on: August 07, 2013, 11:18:17 PM »
If a person does not have a terminal illness as an excuse to smoke MJ and the only reason they would smoke it is to get high, how is this acceptable?

Come on folks…you advocates really should be able to do as you demand of others and back up your claims.



My question in regards to this line of reasoning is

If assisting in illness pain control is the only reason for a mind altering substance, then how is there any justification for drinking alcohol at all?

While there are differences, sure, both are mood/mind altering, causing a form of intoxication. Both can be abused to the point of addiction.

So riddle me this....why is one 'not a sin' while the other very clearly to you 'is sin'


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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #811 on: August 07, 2013, 11:19:17 PM »
He doesn't have to answer your questions, since you're now dodging another question I asked you following your answer to my previous question.
 
And I don’t have to answer yours or anyone elses.  See how this works?  Crazy, huh?

I’m dodging nothing.  Last I checked, you don’t get the monopoly on asking questions.
Never said I did have such a monopoly, but when you are asked a question, the rules of polite debate require you to answer the question before you can ask a question of your own. When you answered my last question, I replied to your answer with another question, which is my prerogative. That puts the ball back on your side of the court, and you don't get to answer a question with a question.

You ask, someone answers and you follow up with a response to that answer with another question skipping the part where you actually have to defend your own views or answer questions.  Wrong.  You can put your behind in the hot seat for a change or expect nothing else in return.
Fine, if that's the way you want to play. I'm still not answering your question until you first answer mine.

I'm not going to answer your question until you first answer mine.
I did, now get busy answering my question.
No, you have to answer my question in a way that satisfies me that you're actually answering the question. You don't get to tell me that you answered and push the ball down my throat. The ball is in your court. It's your turn to hit it. So far you haven't even tried.

Regardless of whether the smoking of marijuana is legal, is it still a sin to smoke it even once and without the intent to get high? Why or why not? Until you answer that question, I will not answer yours. If you've already answered this question before, then either quote or copy-and-paste the answer you submitted previously.
Thats a different question.  I see, PTA rules only work for PTA.  Got it.  Unless you can actually contribute, don’t ask any more questions.  As you said, no one has to answer questions.  Now, answer mine or I won’t answer anymore of yours.  It stinks when you are required to play by your own guidlines, doesn't it?
No. I'm not asserting anything or advocating any position, so I have nothing to prove. You, however, are asserting that the smoking of marijuana is a sin. Therefore, it's your burden to prove it. That's how debate works. If you don't want to answer my questions, that's certainly your prerogative, but I'm not going to let you push me into answering your questions when the ball is in your court.
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #812 on: August 07, 2013, 11:21:33 PM »
He doesn't have to answer your questions, since you're now dodging another question I asked you following your answer to my previous question.
 
And I don’t have to answer yours or anyone elses.  See how this works?  Crazy, huh?

I’m dodging nothing.  Last I checked, you don’t get the monopoly on asking questions.
Never said I did have such a monopoly, but when you are asked a question, the rules of polite debate require you to answer the question before you can ask a question of your own. When you answered my last question, I replied to your answer with another question, which is my prerogative. That puts the ball back on your side of the court, and you don't get to answer a question with a question.

You ask, someone answers and you follow up with a response to that answer with another question skipping the part where you actually have to defend your own views or answer questions.  Wrong.  You can put your behind in the hot seat for a change or expect nothing else in return.
Fine, if that's the way you want to play. I'm still not answering your question until you first answer mine.

I'm not going to answer your question until you first answer mine.
I did, now get busy answering my question.
No, you have to answer my question in a way that satisfies me that you're actually answering the question. You don't get to tell me that you answered and push the ball down my throat. The ball is in your court. It's your turn to hit it. So far you haven't even tried.

Regardless of whether the smoking of marijuana is legal, is it still a sin to smoke it even once and without the intent to get high? Why or why not? Until you answer that question, I will not answer yours. If you've already answered this question before, then either quote or copy-and-paste the answer you submitted previously.
Thats a different question.  I see, PTA rules only work for PTA.  Got it.  Unless you can actually contribute, don’t ask any more questions.  As you said, no one has to answer questions.  Now, answer mine or I won’t answer anymore of yours.  It stinks when you are required to play by your own guidlines, doesn't it?
No. I'm not asserting anything or advocating any position, so I have nothing to prove. You, however, are asserting that the smoking of marijuana is a sin. Therefore, it's your burden to prove it. That's how debate works. If you don't want to answer my questions, that's certainly your prerogative, but I'm not going to let you push me into answering your questions when the ball is in your court.
Dodged again.  Answer the question Peter.
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #813 on: August 07, 2013, 11:21:54 PM »
John? 

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« Reply #814 on: August 08, 2013, 01:02:21 AM »
Tell me John, do you really thinks its ok for people to smoke pot?  Do you really think there is nothing wrong with it?

You are dodging the question again.  I will happily answer you once you finally address this:

That said, your logic, if true, is true only in the United States. What about those countries of this world that don't criminalize the smoking of pot (a particularly important question, since OCnet is truly an international discussion board)? Is it still a sin in those countries to smoke pot even once and without the intent to get high? If so, why? If not, why not?

This is the obvious question to your view that it is wrong because it is illegal. 

And please don't just give another one-liner.

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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #815 on: August 08, 2013, 01:23:01 AM »
-Do you really thinks its ok for people to smoke pot? 
-Do you really think there is nothing wrong with it?
-When is it acceptable for a Christian to get high for the purpose of getting high.

Putting legality issue aside, 3 x yes provided it's done in moderation, not very often etc. Same like alcohol.

You say its ok to smoke pot, there is nothing wrong with it and it’s acceptable for Christians to get high for the sake of getting high.  Perhaps you can elaborate on this and explain your answers and provide supporting evidence for your answers with examples, writings, research, etc.  Something.  Take one at a time so the answers don’t get confusing.

When is it ok to smoke pot?
How do you know for certain there is nothing wrong with pot?
When is it ok for a Christian to get high for the sake of getting high?


Answered to all many times here.
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #816 on: August 08, 2013, 01:31:02 AM »
-Do you really thinks its ok for people to smoke pot? 
-Do you really think there is nothing wrong with it?
-When is it acceptable for a Christian to get high for the purpose of getting high.

Putting legality issue aside, 3 x yes provided it's done in moderation, not very often etc. Same like alcohol.

You say its ok to smoke pot, there is nothing wrong with it and it’s acceptable for Christians to get high for the sake of getting high.  Perhaps you can elaborate on this and explain your answers and provide supporting evidence for your answers with examples, writings, research, etc.  Something.  Take one at a time so the answers don’t get confusing.

When is it ok to smoke pot?
How do you know for certain there is nothing wrong with pot?
When is it ok for a Christian to get high for the sake of getting high?


Answered to all many times here.

I have not seen any clear answer from you on the matter.  I have seen personal opinion, but nothing explained in much, if any, detail.  Perhaps just starting with the last question would make it easier.  Maybe you can alter my opinion slightly.

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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #817 on: August 08, 2013, 01:33:02 AM »
When it's not fast. When they do not commune the other day. When they do not have any seriously serious duties that day and  the day before.
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« Reply #818 on: August 08, 2013, 01:45:38 AM »
When it's not fast. When they do not commune the other day. When they do not have any seriously serious duties that day and  the day before.

Thank you for answering, but this does not explain why you think this.  There is no explanation to support your opinion, unless of course you concede it is only your opinion, nothing more, at which point we move on.

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For instance...how is it ok to get high on pot, but not ok to be drunk on wine?  That sort of thing.
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« Reply #819 on: August 08, 2013, 01:48:35 AM »
And if you want to talk about fallacies, you can start with the senseless desire to compare MJ with wine.

Did no one actually get what I said here?

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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #820 on: August 08, 2013, 01:51:57 AM »
HAHAHAHAHA


You repeatedly tear into other people and keep asking them to justify their position on this issue.


yet you NEVER say anything beyond 'justify yourselves and how you could POSSIBLY condone this dreadful sin' yet you have not yet given any evidence to show it IS a sin, let alone a dreadful one.


You ask 'how is it ok?'   yet you never ever state 'how it is not ok', i.e. actually give your proof or rationale



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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #821 on: August 08, 2013, 01:54:24 AM »
For instance...how is it ok to get high on pot, but not ok to be drunk on wine?  That sort of thing.

These are equeal.

Did no one actually get what I said here?

No one treats you as an authority in theology or Church matters, sorry.
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« Reply #822 on: August 08, 2013, 01:56:19 AM »
HAHAHAHAHA


You repeatedly tear into other people and keep asking them to justify their position on this issue.


yet you NEVER say anything beyond 'justify yourselves and how you could POSSIBLY condone this dreadful sin' yet you have not yet given any evidence to show it IS a sin, let alone a dreadful one.


You ask 'how is it ok?'   yet you never ever state 'how it is not ok', i.e. actually give your proof or rationale




I invite you to read all the pages, not just the last two.  You will see a very different picture painted there.  These last two are my utilizing their own system of debate against them.  As you can see, they do not like it very much.  As I stated, Peter made the rules.  I’m just working with them now myself.  However, unlike Peter, I won’t ask you 15 more questions before answering your response or not answering at all.  Answer and in turn I will answer.  I actually have an answer prepared for you.  I’m just waiting.
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #823 on: August 08, 2013, 01:57:01 AM »
For instance...how is it ok to get high on pot, but not ok to be drunk on wine?  That sort of thing.

These are equeal.


But we are instructed not to be drunk, so which is it?  You say its ok to get high, but you also say they are equal which would mean it is not ok.
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« Reply #824 on: August 08, 2013, 01:58:17 AM »

No one treats you as an authority in theology or Church matters, sorry.

This makes no sense at all. ???

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« Reply #825 on: August 08, 2013, 02:01:09 AM »
HAHAHAHAHA


You repeatedly tear into other people and keep asking them to justify their position on this issue.


yet you NEVER say anything beyond 'justify yourselves and how you could POSSIBLY condone this dreadful sin' yet you have not yet given any evidence to show it IS a sin, let alone a dreadful one.


You ask 'how is it ok?'   yet you never ever state 'how it is not ok', i.e. actually give your proof or rationale




I invite you to read all the pages, not just the last two.  You will see a very different picture painted there.  These last two are my utilizing their own system of debate against them.  As you can see, they do not like it very much.  As I state, Peter made the rules.  I’m just working with them now myself.  However, unlike Peter, I won’t ask you 15 more questions before answering your response.  Answer and in turn I will answer.  I actually have an answer prepared for you.  I’m just waiting.

your own system of debate is combative, not geared towards actual discussion of the issue or even convincing the other side of your points. (something actual competitive debate aims towards)

Basically you just want to be RIGHT, so that you can continue to feel superior to the folks that you feel 'condone sin' all around you.

If this is how you enjoy spending your time, you quite likely need to evaluate this and take a serious look at why you enjoy being polemic, or in internet-lingo, a troll.

Have a wonderful night, its pointless discussing anything beyond the weather with you.

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« Reply #826 on: August 08, 2013, 02:06:14 AM »
HAHAHAHAHA


You repeatedly tear into other people and keep asking them to justify their position on this issue.


yet you NEVER say anything beyond 'justify yourselves and how you could POSSIBLY condone this dreadful sin' yet you have not yet given any evidence to show it IS a sin, let alone a dreadful one.


You ask 'how is it ok?'   yet you never ever state 'how it is not ok', i.e. actually give your proof or rationale




I invite you to read all the pages, not just the last two.  You will see a very different picture painted there.  These last two are my utilizing their own system of debate against them.  As you can see, they do not like it very much.  As I state, Peter made the rules.  I’m just working with them now myself.  However, unlike Peter, I won’t ask you 15 more questions before answering your response.  Answer and in turn I will answer.  I actually have an answer prepared for you.  I’m just waiting.

your own system of debate is combative, not geared towards actual discussion of the issue or even convincing the other side of your points. (something actual competitive debate aims towards)

Basically you just want to be RIGHT, so that you can continue to feel superior to the folks that you feel 'condone sin' all around you.

If this is how you enjoy spending your time, you quite likely need to evaluate this and take a serious look at why you enjoy being polemic, or in internet-lingo, a troll.

Have a wonderful night, its pointless discussing anything beyond the weather with you.

So you also refuse to answer questions.  How convenient, expected and boring.  Very well, I will delete the response I prepared for you.    You have a wonderful night as well.

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« Reply #827 on: August 08, 2013, 02:08:59 AM »
Is there anyone else who refuses to proceed according to their own actions?  I see people like to be on the offensive, but avoid being on the defensive at all costs. 

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« Reply #828 on: August 08, 2013, 02:12:45 AM »
And if you want to talk about fallacies, you can start with the senseless desire to compare MJ with wine.

Did no one actually get what I said here?
Ok, I will explain. I was the one who made the comparison.   There is no fallacy.  I was told they were different, then magically everyone wanted to use the two as a comparison even though they said it was a bad comparison.  It boggles the mind. :police:

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« Reply #829 on: August 08, 2013, 02:28:46 AM »
Is there anyone else who refuses to proceed according to their own actions?  I see people like to be on the offensive, but avoid being on the defensive at all costs. 
You don't get to take the offensive just because you want to. You're the only person I see here trying to actually make a point. Many others have tried to get you to prove your point, but so far you have refused. You don't get to turn the tables on them, especially when they're not trying to prove anything.
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« Reply #832 on: August 17, 2013, 11:24:19 PM »
Seeing that a lot of fruit can grow out of a discussion of this subject, I am reopening this thread, though with some formal conditions.

Kerdy, seeing that your refusal to give clear answers to questions asked of you is the primary force that drove this thread off topic, and pursuant to the rule I cite below, if you wish to resume participation in this discussion, you are to give to the following questions answers that satisfy your questioners:
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #833 on: August 17, 2013, 11:29:28 PM »
If smoking tobacco is a sin, so is smoking marijuana. It is the smoking that appears, from what I've seen mentioned by Elder Paisios and others especially from Russia in past centuries, that is a passion.
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« Reply #834 on: August 17, 2013, 11:32:48 PM »
Well if fr. paisios says it...
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« Reply #835 on: August 17, 2013, 11:46:36 PM »
Well if fr. paisios says it...

Then it comes from a reliable source, especially when confirmed by so many others. But if one doesn't like it, then one can do as one pleases and find out for oneself.
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #836 on: August 18, 2013, 08:59:49 AM »
Well if fr. paisios says it...

First symptom of dwindling Orthodoxy.  :(

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« Reply #837 on: August 18, 2013, 09:36:19 AM »
 ;) just checking on items toxic for dogs and what do I find listed, you guessed it!

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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #838 on: August 18, 2013, 10:12:08 AM »
;) just checking on items toxic for dogs and what do I find listed, you guessed it!
Chocolate and salmon are toxic for dogs, too, but both have been shown healthy for human consumption. Try again.
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« Reply #839 on: August 18, 2013, 10:15:55 AM »
How can one teach dog to smoke? I know some dogs drink beer but smoking seems too difficult.
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #840 on: August 18, 2013, 12:22:44 PM »
;) just checking on items toxic for dogs and what do I find listed, you guessed it!
Chocolate and salmon are toxic for dogs, too, but both have been shown healthy for human consumption. Try again.

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« Reply #841 on: August 18, 2013, 12:43:34 PM »
Well if fr. paisios says it...

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« Reply #842 on: August 18, 2013, 02:01:28 PM »
Well if fr. paisios says it...

First symptom of dwindling Orthodoxy.  :(
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Not really. But thanks for asking. 

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« Reply #843 on: August 18, 2013, 02:15:02 PM »
Well if fr. paisios says it...

First symptom of dwindling Orthodoxy.  :(
will you be okay?

Not really. But thanks for asking. 

The world would be a better place, if you were Orthodox.  ;)
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #844 on: August 18, 2013, 02:36:12 PM »
The world would be a better place, if you were Orthodox.  ;)
haha perhaps

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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #845 on: August 18, 2013, 03:52:35 PM »
;) just checking on items toxic for dogs and what do I find listed, you guessed it!
Chocolate and salmon are toxic for dogs, too, but both have been shown healthy for human consumption. Try again.

Even my poor attempt at light hearted humour has to be taken with an almost Calvinistic disdain.
Remember that. It was a poor attempt at humor in a medium where even good attempts often get lost in the text. ;)

Have you no humour? Perhaps it's something pot does not improve.  :D
Do you know how to tell a joke? ;)
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #846 on: August 18, 2013, 04:18:44 PM »
;) just checking on items toxic for dogs and what do I find listed, you guessed it!
Chocolate and salmon are toxic for dogs, too, but both have been shown healthy for human consumption. Try again.

Even my poor attempt at light hearted humour has to be taken with an almost Calvinistic disdain.
Remember that. It was a poor attempt at humor in a medium where even good attempts often get lost in the text. ;)

Have you no humour? Perhaps it's something pot does not improve.  :D
Do you know how to tell a joke? ;)

When I try I'll let you know.  ;)

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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #848 on: August 18, 2013, 08:49:50 PM »
I'm late to this conversation, but I am absolutely dumbfounded by how many posts there are on this.  And, frankly, this is such a ridiculous topic that I Cannot believe that every possible angle has not been covered already.  What's the only reason to continue this?  There's no consensu, people are going to keep talking past each other for another 800 responses.  Seriously, what's the point?
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #849 on: August 18, 2013, 09:00:40 PM »
I'm late to this conversation, but I am absolutely dumbfounded by how many posts there are on this.  And, frankly, this is such a ridiculous topic that I Cannot believe that every possible angle has not been covered already.  What's the only reason to continue this?  There's no consensu, people are going to keep talking past each other for another 800 responses.  Seriously, what's the point?
What's your point in submitting such a post as this? ;)
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #850 on: August 18, 2013, 09:56:04 PM »
I'm late to this conversation, but I am absolutely dumbfounded by how many posts there are on this.  And, frankly, this is such a ridiculous topic that I Cannot believe that every possible angle has not been covered already.  What's the only reason to continue this?  There's no consensu, people are going to keep talking past each other for another 800 responses.  Seriously, what's the point?
seriously.

i totally answered this a long time ago.  No, is the answer.

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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #851 on: August 18, 2013, 10:29:16 PM »
I'm late to this conversation, but I am absolutely dumbfounded by how many posts there are on this.  And, frankly, this is such a ridiculous topic that I Cannot believe that every possible angle has not been covered already.  What's the only reason to continue this?  There's no consensu, people are going to keep talking past each other for another 800 responses.  Seriously, what's the point?
What's your point in submitting such a post as this? ;)

That this "discussion" has gone on for long enough.  We've had way too many asinine discussions on this board lately, e.g. Harry Potter and Obama voters, which jurisdiction is most Irish, etc. 
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #852 on: August 18, 2013, 11:00:23 PM »
I'm late to this conversation, but I am absolutely dumbfounded by how many posts there are on this.  And, frankly, this is such a ridiculous topic that I Cannot believe that every possible angle has not been covered already.  What's the only reason to continue this?  There's no consensu, people are going to keep talking past each other for another 800 responses.  Seriously, what's the point?
What's your point in submitting such a post as this? ;)

That this "discussion" has gone on for long enough.  We've had way too many asinine discussions on this board lately, e.g. Harry Potter and Obama voters, which jurisdiction is most Irish, etc.  
If you don't like the discussion, you don't have to read it. It would probably be better you not read the discussion than comment on how asinine it is.
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #853 on: August 18, 2013, 11:40:04 PM »
I'm late to this conversation, but I am absolutely dumbfounded by how many posts there are on this.  And, frankly, this is such a ridiculous topic that I Cannot believe that every possible angle has not been covered already.  What's the only reason to continue this?  There's no consensu, people are going to keep talking past each other for another 800 responses.  Seriously, what's the point?
What's your point in submitting such a post as this? ;)

That this "discussion" has gone on for long enough.  We've had way too many asinine discussions on this board lately, e.g. Harry Potter and Obama voters, which jurisdiction is most Irish, etc.  
If you don't like the discussion, you don't have to read it. It would probably be better you not read the discussion than comment on how asinine it is.

You're right; I don't.  But that shouldn't stop me from calling a spade a spade or an asinine topic an asinine topic.  How long can you really talk about an asinine subject anyway? This is an appeal to stop the madness.
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Re: Is smoking marijuana a sin?
« Reply #854 on: August 19, 2013, 12:01:19 AM »
I'm late to this conversation, but I am absolutely dumbfounded by how many posts there are on this.  And, frankly, this is such a ridiculous topic that I Cannot believe that every possible angle has not been covered already.  What's the only reason to continue this?  There's no consensu, people are going to keep talking past each other for another 800 responses.  Seriously, what's the point?
What's your point in submitting such a post as this? ;)

That this "discussion" has gone on for long enough.  We've had way too many asinine discussions on this board lately, e.g. Harry Potter and Obama voters, which jurisdiction is most Irish, etc.  
If you don't like the discussion, you don't have to read it. It would probably be better you not read the discussion than comment on how asinine it is.

You're right; I don't.  But that shouldn't stop me from calling a spade a spade or an asinine topic an asinine topic.  How long can you really talk about an asinine subject anyway? This is an appeal to stop the madness.
If you really think this thread should be locked, then feel free to use the Report to Moderator function to request that it be locked. Otherwise, if all you want to do is complain, I ask you informally to just keep quiet and leave this thread alone.
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