Re-read what I wrote "in the words of an abbot I know. "
Yes, I did see that the first time I read it. So if it's from an abbot, then use a colon. For example...
This all falls under situation ethics, in the words of an abbot I know:
Situation ethics has become the norm for our times, having replaced the biblical ethics of past generations. In situation ethics as long as no one is hurt one can do as one pleases. Taking drugs, watching pornography and aborting the unborn child, all can come under the flag of situation ethics...
Otherwise it could seem like it was only the term "situation ethics". Alternatively you could put what he said in quotations since you are quoting someone. Not a major point, I was just confused by it.
As for the abbots words, I don't know why you needed to include the parts about pornography, abortion and marriage. Only one part can refer to the use of marijuana:
Taking drugs is seen as morally neutral by increasing numbers of Americans. We believe no one is hurt by our drug use, while refusing to see the obvious connection between our drug purchases and the mass killings in Mexico by drug cartels that are in business because of the demand for drugs by American users.
Here the anonymous abbot talks about "drugs" (which drugs?). And he only says they are wrong because of the Mexican drug cartels killing over them. As such, the problem is mainly that the drugs are illegal and cause violence as a result. He is not saying that they are sinful in and of themselves.
If you don't read it as a whole you start to make what you want of it, just like many people do with the Bible. If you read the last part, the abbot makes a point that it is indeed a sin.
"The Fathers knew that even the secret sins committed by people had an effect on the whole of the cosmos. The people who promote situation ethics would have us believe that nothing that is done in private hurts anyone. Biblical ethics tells us quite the opposite."
"The secret sins" is implying all situation ethics, which would include the drug use.
Why do we keep trying to justify our sins!?
I ask that you please try and take a rational, well thought-out approach to this. I don't find your moralizing and finger pointing helpful, especially when we are trying to find out if something is in fact morally wrong or not to begin with. Throwing abortion, pornography, and infidelity to add moral clout to your opinion actually clouds the issue. The subject is not "is sin bad", but rather "is marijuana a sin". So the part where the mystery abbot says that God can see our sins is neither here nor there.
Did you read what I wrote? Did you read what you wrote? As I explained, the anonymous abbot you quoted is saying that buying illegal drugs is a sin because it fuels violence with drug cartels. Yes or no? This says nothing of the person who grows their own marijuana for recreational use.
This is similar to your previous contribution where you quoted a saint who came down hard on someone who was addicted to cigarettes and not believing they can quit. Completely different issue.
Lord have mercy, please forgive me if I upset you John. I am sorry if it seemed like I was pointing fingers, I was generalizing and didn't say names as to not point fingers, but it may have come off as I was. It wasn't my intention and I am sorry.
The Abbot's name does not matter, it's besides the point.
May the Holy Spirit guide my words to help those in need.
In Galatians 5:21 we read"Envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. "
Drunkenness (if you ask your priest) isn't just from drink. It's putting your body and mind in a state of being in which God did not intend it to be. You smoke only for yourself, to consume it, to consume for enjoyment is gluttony. Your wanting it for the pleasure of the state it puts you in is pride.
It keeps you away from God, you are no longer connected with God because you are in an altered state of being. Sin is nothing but separation from God. Our Blessed Theotokos did not sin, that is to say, she was always with God, she never was separated from Him. When you smoke cannabis you are putting that prideful, gluttonous, passion of the flesh (I say flesh because it alters the body) above God because God should be the source of your entire life and therefor by putting it above God you are removing Him as the center of your life and therefor separating Him from you. Again, separation from God = sin.
Here is one more example and I hope will put the nail on this coffin.
Luke 10:27 we read, "And he answering said, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself."
What is Cannabis? It is a psychoactive drug, that means it acts primarily upon the central nervous system where it affects brain function
. We know the mind is the Nous, also known as intellect. In Orthodox Christianity the nous is also known as the eye of the soul. Soul is created in the image of God. Since God is Trinitarian, Mankind is Nous, Word and Spirit. Therefore, how can you possibly be following this , the first and greatest commandment as noted "all your mind"
if you are affecting it to function in an alternate way.My own personal opinion and rant
, why even bother and why take the risk. Christ gave his life, he was tortured and died for me, for you, for all of us to save us. That is the ultimate sacrifice. And what do we do, we keep asking how much more can we have. We have jobs, money- so much of it we are rich, filthy rich compared to most Countries. We have more food than we need, more clothes than we need. We have so much, but do we deserve any of it? No, we are filthy, wretched sinners, but yet we are like kids who keep asking their parents, can I have more and more. Now this, why add another thing to the list, why marijuana, why even bother. If you don't know if it is sin or not, then we shouldn't even go there, do what your priest tells you. Will it benefit us and get us to the Kingdom if we smoke it, probably not. So why do we need to analyze these things? Because we we prideful, we only care about ourselves, we only care about the flesh, about sensual pleasures. If we loved Christ we wouldn't try to get more, we would give ourselves instead. Give it up, we need to give up our stupid pleasures that don't help us and we should struggle more, and live by the commandments. Instead of smoking pot, read the psalter, get high from prostrations, struggle for Christ. The narrow road is hard to find, and I would bet it's not filled with pass time smoking hobbies.If we don't die, before we die, we will die when we die.
~ Schema-archimandrite Joachim