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« on: June 25, 2006, 12:59:53 AM »

I have always wanted to ask this. I could never understand why The Roman Church was seen as first with Constantinpole as second and Alexandria as third and Antioch as Fourth and Jerusalem as fifth. I know that Peter died in Rome as well as Paul. what I don't understand is the Church started in Jerusalem. Jerusealem was the seat of King David and that Jesus was born in the Family line of king David and so the church started in Jerusalem Israel. it should have been the First in line stead of Rome.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2006, 01:46:36 AM »

Maybe because Rome was the capital of the Roman Empire. and the pentarchy didn't start until late 4th century and they didn't classify prior to that date.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2006, 01:49:17 AM »

Maybe because Rome was the capital of the Roman Empire. and the pentarchy didn't start until late 4th century and they didn't classify prior to that date.

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 03:51:25 AM »

I have always wanted to ask this. I could never understand why The Roman Church was seen as first with Constantinpole as second and Alexandria as third and Antioch as Fourth and Jerusalem as fifth. I know that Peter died in Rome as well as Paul. what I don't understand is the Church started in Jerusalem. Jerusealem was the seat of King David and that Jesus was born in the Family line of king David and so the church started in Jerusalem Israel. it should have been the First in line stead of Rome.

By the time of "ranking" of the patriarchates, Jerusalem had long since become a fairly meaningless town. It was destroyed pretty well in AD 70. Rome and Constantinople, being the two major cities of Christendom, understandably had pride of place.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2006, 07:25:32 AM »

Rome had first place initially for being the Imperial Capital... Jerusalem was last because it was insignificant (destroyed in 70ad) but still needed rank due to its historical significance (which actually would probably have been closer to Nil in the eyes of the Romans without St. Helen's massive building project).  Rome gets put essentially into second place after Chalcedon for being the "former" capital - it retained some of its honor only because it used to be the capital.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2006, 12:52:02 AM »

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Particular Churches are fully Catholic through their communion with one of them, the Church of Rome "which presides in charity" (315)--


315- St. Ignatius Antioch

"for with this church,by reason of its pre-eminence, the whole Church, that is the faithful everywhere.........blah blah blah..............


I'm not sure how helpful that is.
Don't shoot the messenger!!!!

P.S. I have no idea where St. Ignatius wrote this part of it but ....?
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