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I don't know why, but I wonder if there is anybody out there familiar with the Western Rite who can share the beauty and aesthetic experiences found in these Churches - to help those who aren't familiar with it.

So that is the purpose of this thread.

Edit: The title should be "pictures," but whatever.

I'll start:

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Re: Anyone got any beautiful picture of Western Rite Orthodox Churches?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 02:07:03 AM »
I don't know why, but I wonder if there is anybody out there familiar with the Western Rite who can share the beauty and aesthetic experiences found in these Churches - to help those who aren't familiar with it.

So that is the purpose of this thread.

Edit: The title should be "pictures," but whatever.

I'll start:


Nice! Where was this one taken?

I hope this thread goes on. :)
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Saint Augustine of Hippo Orthodox Church in Denver, Colorado.
Hey that's the very first Orthodox parish I visited  ;) And it's even more beautiful in person.
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I had initially thought there was no WR parish in my area. Now that I found out that there is, I'm itching to go to it.
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There's no canonical WRO parish in Brazil, but I hope to be able to visit one when I finally make my long awaited trip to Buenos Aires.
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Re: Anyone got any beautiful picture of Western Rite Orthodox Churches?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2017, 12:23:19 AM »
I don't know why, but I wonder if there is anybody out there familiar with the Western Rite who can share the beauty and aesthetic experiences found in these Churches - to help those who aren't familiar with it.

So that is the purpose of this thread.

Edit: The title should be "pictures," but whatever.

I'll start:



I lived in Denver at the time that I was received into the Orthodox Church.  There are about 4-5 Antiochian parishes in the area with only one being Eastern Rite and the rest Western Rite. 

Unfortunately I never visited any of the Western Rite parishes even though I only lived 5 minutes from them.  At the time I don't think I would have appreciated them as much as I think I could now.  Then it would have smacked of "Catholicism" to me and would have turned me off.  However, as I have grown in my faith and have begun to appreciate the Western Orthodox world I hate that I missed out on that experience.  I still prefer the Eastern Rite - something about it just resonates with me - but I am learning to appreciate the Western Rite and those whose hearts are drawn to God by it.

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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2017, 07:17:12 PM »
There's no canonical WRO parish in Brazil, but I hope to be able to visit one when I finally make my long awaited trip to Buenos Aires.

The French Orthodox Church has two parishes in Brazil.  While it may not sit well with you to take full part in their Mass, they would welcome you if you wished to attend and observe the Western Orthodox Mass.  I think they use the neo-Gallican Mass of St Germanus.
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Here is the monastery chapel of St Michael and St Martin, near Luzé, in France.
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There's no canonical WRO parish in Brazil, but I hope to be able to visit one when I finally make my long awaited trip to Buenos Aires.

The French Orthodox Church has two parishes in Brazil.  While it may not sit well with you to take full part in their Mass, they would welcome you if you wished to attend and observe the Western Orthodox Mass.  I think they use the neo-Gallican Mass of St Germanus.
I was aware of Celtic Orthodox presence, but not French. Once I met a Leloup disciple at the bus, he said some weird things (including something about tantric sex). Are you aware where these parishes are?
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There's no canonical WRO parish in Brazil, but I hope to be able to visit one when I finally make my long awaited trip to Buenos Aires.

The French Orthodox Church has two parishes in Brazil.  While it may not sit well with you to take full part in their Mass, they would welcome you if you wished to attend and observe the Western Orthodox Mass.  I think they use the neo-Gallican Mass of St Germanus.
I was aware of Celtic Orthodox presence, but not French. Once I met a Leloup disciple at the bus, he said some weird things (including something about tantric sex). Are you aware where these parishes are?

I hadn't been aware of any presence in the Americas of the Celtic Orthodox Church other than the Monastery of the Holy Presence in the USA, where Bishop Paul (DuPuis) lives.  Is there a Brazilian presence too?

The French Orthodox Church (same communion as the Celtic Church) has parishes here and here.

Very peculiar - those things said by the person on the bus.  I haven't heard anything like that from within our communion, and would take it with a pinch of salt until I see something questionable from a direct source.

Mind you, I hadn't heard of Fr Jean-Yves Leloup until last year, and I haven't explored anything written by him yet.  I think I might.  He seems a prolific writer.
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2017, 04:55:10 PM »
There's no canonical WRO parish in Brazil, but I hope to be able to visit one when I finally make my long awaited trip to Buenos Aires.

Eh -- the only canonical WRO mass I've attended was presided over by a priest who quite publicly (even famously) apostatized a short time later.
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I hadn't been aware of any presence in the Americas of the Celtic Orthodox Church other than the Monastery of the Holy Presence in the USA, where Bishop Paul (DuPuis) lives.  Is there a Brazilian presence too?

The French Orthodox Church (same communion as the Celtic Church) has parishes here and here.

Very peculiar - those things said by the person on the bus.  I haven't heard anything like that from within our communion, and would take it with a pinch of salt until I see something questionable from a direct source.

Mind you, I hadn't heard of Fr Jean-Yves Leloup until last year, and I haven't explored anything written by him yet.  I think I might.  He seems a prolific writer.
He claimed to be from the Hesychast Center you linked second, he said it was upstate, but now I see it's about a ten minute walk from my own house, I've been to this street several times and never realised there was an Orthodox center, that's very impressive even if non-canonical. I'll check it out.

Maybe this guy was just crazy. I found the one Fr. Leloup's book I read a bit weird, New-Agish, but it was an interesting read nonetheless, and included nothing like tantric sex.

About the Celtic Orthodox Church, I just googled it and the thing gets a bit weird. I'll PM you about it.
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I hadn't been aware of any presence in the Americas of the Celtic Orthodox Church other than the Monastery of the Holy Presence in the USA, where Bishop Paul (DuPuis) lives.  Is there a Brazilian presence too?

The French Orthodox Church (same communion as the Celtic Church) has parishes here and here.

Very peculiar - those things said by the person on the bus.  I haven't heard anything like that from within our communion, and would take it with a pinch of salt until I see something questionable from a direct source.

Mind you, I hadn't heard of Fr Jean-Yves Leloup until last year, and I haven't explored anything written by him yet.  I think I might.  He seems a prolific writer.
He claimed to be from the Hesychast Center you linked second, he said it was upstate, but now I see it's about a ten minute walk from my own house, I've been to this street several times and never realised there was an Orthodox center, that's very impressive even if non-canonical. I'll check it out.

Maybe this guy was just crazy. I found the one Fr. Leloup's book I read a bit weird, New-Agish, but it was an interesting read nonetheless, and included nothing like tantric sex.

Thanks for the intro.  I'll take a look and see what I think.  Please do visit the centre for the Liturgy.  I'd be grateful to read your impressions.

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About the Celtic Orthodox Church, I just googled it and the thing gets a bit weird. I'll PM you about it.

I know a little of the history of the British branch of the Celtic Orthodox Church.  This seems to be distinct from the history of the French branch.  The Wikipedia entry gives a very convoluted past for the UK branch, and then part way through the narrative just introduces a pre-existing French part of the same church, without much explanation of where the latter came from.

In any case, the British Eparchy of the Celtic Orthodox Church now no longer exists.  Most of the clergy have either died or moved to other jurisdictions.  The two remaining clergy in the UK are now directly under the French Eparchy, which seems to have been historically much more stable than its former British counterpart.
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I hadn't been aware of any presence in the Americas of the Celtic Orthodox Church other than the Monastery of the Holy Presence in the USA, where Bishop Paul (DuPuis) lives.  Is there a Brazilian presence too?

The French Orthodox Church (same communion as the Celtic Church) has parishes here and here.

Very peculiar - those things said by the person on the bus.  I haven't heard anything like that from within our communion, and would take it with a pinch of salt until I see something questionable from a direct source.

Mind you, I hadn't heard of Fr Jean-Yves Leloup until last year, and I haven't explored anything written by him yet.  I think I might.  He seems a prolific writer.
He claimed to be from the Hesychast Center you linked second, he said it was upstate, but now I see it's about a ten minute walk from my own house, I've been to this street several times and never realised there was an Orthodox center, that's very impressive even if non-canonical. I'll check it out.

Maybe this guy was just crazy. I found the one Fr. Leloup's book I read a bit weird, New-Agish, but it was an interesting read nonetheless, and included nothing like tantric sex.

About the Celtic Orthodox Church, I just googled it and the thing gets a bit weird. I'll PM you about it.

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Maybe it's just because they don't have much money for decoration or something, but I really dig the contrast between the icons and the clean white walls in these pictures. It creates a kind of ethereal effect.
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Maybe it's just because they don't have much money for decoration or something, but I really dig the contrast between the icons and the clean white walls in these pictures. It creates a kind of ethereal effect.

Me too.
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There's no canonical WRO parish in Brazil, but I hope to be able to visit one when I finally make my long awaited trip to Buenos Aires.

It would be nice to have a WR parish in Brazil, however I think it would attract a lot of people from that ''igreja católica brasileira'' and similar schismatic roman catholic groups (some can be quite weird).

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It would be nice to have a WR parish in Brazil, however I think it would attract a lot of people from that ''igreja católica brasileira'' and similar schismatic roman catholic groups (some can be quite weird).
That's a point, the responsible people would have to be extra careful and observant. But, under the right bishop, abuse would be avoided and these people would come to greener pasture without bringing their errors with them.
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It would be nice to have a WR parish in Brazil, however I think it would attract a lot of people from that ''igreja católica brasileira'' and similar schismatic roman catholic groups (some can be quite weird).
Talk about weird cultic groups!  The TFP would pray the Rosary at rapid fire pace outside the Melkite Catholic parish that I attended during Divine Liturgy and only come in to receive Holy Communion, just to leave and resume their Rosary.

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Here is the monastery chapel of St Michael and St Martin, near Luzé, in France.

Do you have any other Liturgy of Saint Germanus Churches?
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Talk about weird cultic groups!  The TFP would pray the Rosary at rapid fire pace outside the Melkite Catholic parish that I attended during Divine Liturgy and only come in to receive Holy Communion, just to leave and resume their Rosary.

I never understood why the priest put up with them.
It would be amazing to hear their reaction to the collocation of how Protestant this sounds.
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This thread is a heaven for me. I wish there was WRO in Finland.

Just start it from scratch.  It would hardly be the most controversial thing done in the Finnish Church.  #alpha60
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They are non-canonical, but here is Botel Abbey of the Autonomous Orthodox Metropolita - they use a corrected Sarum Missal.













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Is that a yarmulke?

In the Western Church, zucchetos developed in the early Middle Ages in order to keep the head of the tonsured, bald cleric warm during the winter - but they eventually became a symbol of the priesthood / bishopry. In the Roman Catholic Church, they're black for priests, purple for bishops, red for cardinals, and white for the Pope.



You rarely see them on Roman Catholic priests nowadays, usually exclusively bishops and upward.
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I wonder why the noncanonical WR priest's zucchetto is blue.
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I wonder why the noncanonical WR priest's zucchetto is blue.

Maybe something to do with the Sarum Rite? After all, the colors which Sarum uses are very different than what Rome used post-Trent.
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Is that a yarmulke?

In the Western Church, zucchetos developed in the early Middle Ages in order to keep the head of the tonsured, bald cleric warm during the winter - but they eventually became a symbol of the priesthood / bishopry. In the Roman Catholic Church, they're black for priests, purple for bishops, red for cardinals, and white for the Pope.

You rarely see them on Roman Catholic priests nowadays, usually exclusively bishops and upward.
Clearly this shows how observant I am.   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :-X

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I wonder why the noncanonical WR priest's zucchetto is blue.

Maybe something to do with the Sarum Rite? After all, the colors which Sarum uses are very different than what Rome used post-Trent.

The Sarum colors were the same as the Roman, with the addition of yellow and blue, though they were distributed a little differently. In the case of blue specifically, it was used on the feast of St. Michael the Archangel, but otherwise was penitential, like violet or blue. That looks like it could be a Lenten/Advent chasuble, so the blue zucchetto would be appropriate.

In the Roman Church, the zucchetto may be worn by all who have been ordained at least a deacon, but must be worn by bishops. The most recent legislation was in 1968 by Paul VI. The pope wears white, cardinals wear scarlet, bishops wear amaranth, priests and deacons wear black. Franciscan friars have a unique brown zucchetto. Before the mid-19th century, bishops were also supposed to wear black, also. Wearing it probably fell out of favor with priests and deacons because they are not permitted to wear it at all during Mass; a bishop removes his for the Canon, but otherwise wears it throughout Mass. It's just easier not to bother if it's not required (a common Roman approach in recent years).
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Here is the monastery chapel of St Michael and St Martin, near Luzé, in France.

Do you have any other Liturgy of Saint Germanus Churches?

I have indeed.  :)

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The Brussels one is really pretty.
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« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2018, 07:02:40 PM »
It's lovely, isn't it? I hope to visit there soon.

The reredos at Nancy was painted by St John of Saint-Denis (Eugraphe Kovalevsky).

This is at the Church of Our Lady & St Thiebault near Gorze, France.  I took this just before Vespers for Theophany this year. I know it appears Byzantine in decor but the services are very much the Benedictine Office and the Liturgy of St Germanus as celebrated in our church.
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I liked this related video of Christmas chant. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6caoq6 I'd love to visit one of your churches if I ever find myself in France.

Subdeacon, if you don't mind my asking, is your Church currently in talks with any world Orthodox Church for establishing communion?
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I liked this related video of Christmas chant. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6caoq6 I'd love to visit one of your churches if I ever find myself in France.

I am sure you would be made most welcome, Volnutt.  If you go to one of the places where there is also accommodation available, (the monastery at Bois-Aubry or the Bethany Centre near Gorze), let them know in advance and they'll be happy to host you.  Here's another, more recent video from the Gorze parish, for Pascha.

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Of course I don't mind: it's a reasonable question.  Sadly, there are no talks along those lines anymore, due partly to lessons learnt from history and partly to differing views on the current situation and on what the path to mutual recognition might look like.  We can message privately if you'd like to discuss it further, so as not to divert attention from this very encouraging thread.
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I liked this related video of Christmas chant. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6caoq6 I'd love to visit one of your churches if I ever find myself in France.

I am sure you would be made most welcome, Volnutt.  If you go to one of the places where there is also accommodation available, (the monastery at Bois-Aubry or the Bethany Centre near Gorze), let them know in advance and they'll be happy to host you.  Here's another, more recent video from the Gorze parish, for Pascha.

Very nice! I'm glad to see that they've got a few younger faces that the congregation from 2012 had. Good for longevity of the community.

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That's too bad. I hope the situation improves at some point.

I've got a lot of things on my plate right now, but maybe we can PM about it some other time. Thanks for the offer, though!
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In the Roman Church, the zucchetto may be worn by all who have been ordained at least a deacon, but must be worn by bishops. The most recent legislation was in 1968 by Paul VI. The pope wears white, cardinals wear scarlet, bishops wear amaranth, priests and deacons wear black. Franciscan friars have a unique brown zucchetto. Before the mid-19th century, bishops were also supposed to wear black, also. Wearing it probably fell out of favor with priests and deacons because they are not permitted to wear it at all during Mass; a bishop removes his for the Canon, but otherwise wears it throughout Mass. It's just easier not to bother if it's not required (a common Roman approach in recent years).
at least a deacon: Please give proof!
Cistercian and Premonstratensians Abbots for example wear white as well (but not in moiré pattern).
Except they (priests, not deacons) have special permission to wear the zucchetto during Mass.

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Nice pictures!

BTW: Black dalmatics/tunicellae are not worn on Good Friday (according to the traditional rubrics).
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Terce of Holy Saturday:
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Paschal Triduum at St Gregory The Great Orthodox Church:

Nice pictures!

BTW: Black dalmatics/tunicellae are not worn on Good Friday (according to the traditional rubrics).

Oh, that's fact that there are some specials rolled up vestments:
http://wf1.xcdn.pl/files/18/03/31/474014_XngK_.20MichaC58220Rudnicki208270_83.jpg

But in another picture I've seen something different


Both pictures are from the Liturgies of Good Friday celebrated according to the rites before the reform of the Holy Week (1955)
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In both pictures deacon and subdeacon are wearing the folded chasuables (planetae plicatae), in the second picture they are simply shortened.

If you do not have them, the two Levits are to wear simply albs with maniple (if the service requires them), additionally the deacon the stole over the left shoulder.

The bishop is wearing the black pontifical dalmatic and tunicella, that is correct, but the assistent deacons do not wear the folded chasuable (black dalmatics would be fine).

BTW: The shoes in the second pic are overwhelming!  :) Do you have the link to the website?
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In both pictures deacon and subdeacon are wearing the folded chasuables (planetae plicatae), in the second picture they are simply shortened.

If you do not have them, the two Levits are to wear simply albs with maniple (if the service requires them), additionally the deacon the stole over the left shoulder.

The bishop is wearing the black pontifical dalmatic and tunicella, that is correct, but the assistent deacons do not wear the folded chasuable (black dalmatics would be fine).

I'm so keen on liturgics, but when it goes for Tridentine rite, I'm giving up - I mean, there are too many rubrics, strange rules (that in East nobody would pay so much attention and so on) :D Anyway, thank you for the info.

BTW: The shoes in the second pic are overwhelming!  :) Do you have the link to the website?

http://ikomutoprzeszkadzalo.pl/?lang=en - there are more interesting pics
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In the Roman Church, the zucchetto may be worn by all who have been ordained at least a deacon, but must be worn by bishops. The most recent legislation was in 1968 by Paul VI. The pope wears white, cardinals wear scarlet, bishops wear amaranth, priests and deacons wear black. Franciscan friars have a unique brown zucchetto. Before the mid-19th century, bishops were also supposed to wear black, also. Wearing it probably fell out of favor with priests and deacons because they are not permitted to wear it at all during Mass; a bishop removes his for the Canon, but otherwise wears it throughout Mass. It's just easier not to bother if it's not required (a common Roman approach in recent years).
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Cistercian and Premonstratensians Abbots for example wear white as well (but not in moiré pattern).
Except they (priests, not deacons) have special permission to wear the zucchetto during Mass.

There are references in books about ceremonial that mention it (such as James Charles Noonan's The Church Visible), but I have searched in vain for a primary source discussing explicit permission for deacons to wear the zucchetto. The reason is probably that the zucchetto is only a liturgical item for the bishop or an abbot; a priest or deacon would leave it in the sacristy, anyway. The places I've read about priests and deacons wearing it all say the custom died out some time ago.

The reference to legislation by Paul VI is more accurately an Instruction of the Secretariat of State called Ut sive sollicite; it deals with cardinals and other prelates; it does not mention simple priests and deacons.
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Nice pictures!

BTW: Black dalmatics/tunicellae are not worn on Good Friday (according to the traditional rubrics).

Oh, that's fact that there are some specials rolled up vestments:
http://wf1.xcdn.pl/files/18/03/31/474014_XngK_.20MichaC58220Rudnicki208270_83.jpg

But in another picture I've seen something different


Both pictures are from the Liturgies of Good Friday celebrated according to the rites before the reform of the Holy Week (1955)

That is the famed “Folded chasuble,” which I think was usually not just a regular black fiddleback folded up once per annum, but rather, for priests who could afford it, a black fiddleback chasuble specially made and sewn into the folded position for use on Good Friday.  Their use was IIRC not universal, and personally I have mixed feelings on it, although given that black chasubles were the norm in all requiem masses, it does make sense to have something special for the Mass of the Presanctified.  I guess I am just not entirely sure of the aesthetics.

In the rite of Lyons they used ash colored vestments, kind of a charcoal, tan color, on Ash Wednesday, instead of black, and recently this has been revived (the Lyonaise Rite is being resuscitated thankfully), and that is an effective look.  I like the dark red / burgundy Byzantine vestments one is likely to see in a Greek Orthodox church the most for Good Friday (Great and Holy Friday in EO terminology).
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Some nice pictures thanks

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I guess I should also post this, even though I'm sure it's been seen already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lCT-vUOjGs&t=43s
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I guess I should also post this, even though I'm sure it's been seen already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lCT-vUOjGs&t=43s

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I guess I should also post this, even though I'm sure it's been seen already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lCT-vUOjGs&t=43s

I have seen it already it is a very holy liturgy only complain about the crucifix Christs feet are crossed and you how I feel about that!
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What's with wiping the crucifix after each person venerates it?
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What's with wiping the crucifix after each person venerates it?

so no germs are spread!
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What's with wiping the crucifix after each person venerates it?

so no germs are spread!

That's not how that works, but ok!
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And also this:

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Sant Appollinare in Ravenna. Going to count it as western rite Orthodox given that it is pre schism and features correct western iconography without canonical breaking - note how the mosaicist did not portray Christ as a lamb but rather had the lambs (christians) looking towards the Holy Cross which features the Holy Face.

This is truly western iconography, and the entire church was covered in the same thing until the venetians redid everything but the apse.
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Sant Appollinare in Ravenna. Going to count it as western rite Orthodox given that it is pre schism and features correct western iconography without canonical breaking - note how the mosaicist did not portray Christ as a lamb but rather had the lambs (christians) looking towards the Holy Cross which features the Holy Face.

This is truly western iconography, and the entire church was covered in the same thing until the venetians redid everything but the apse.

This is amazing!

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Sant Appollinare in Ravenna. Going to count it as western rite Orthodox given that it is pre schism and features correct western iconography without canonical breaking - note how the mosaicist did not portray Christ as a lamb but rather had the lambs (christians) looking towards the Holy Cross which features the Holy Face.

This is truly western iconography, and the entire church was covered in the same thing until the venetians redid everything but the apse.

i would pray in there!
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« Reply #79 on: June 28, 2018, 12:30:02 PM »
^Reminds me of St. Paul's church in Rome. Interestingly enough I had to look for a picture as I didn't remember much of it. The relics got my attention and I don't usually have any strong religious experiences or feelings.

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What's with wiping the crucifix after each person venerates it?

Unlike a regular icon, I think here every single person kisses the same general location, so it's more difficult to avoid lipstick / lip balm marks.
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What's with wiping the crucifix after each person venerates it?

Unlike a regular icon, I think here every single person kisses the same general location, so it's more difficult to avoid lipstick / lip balm marks.

Most people kiss the same general area of an icon too.
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Not necessarily - some people kiss the bottom, some people kiss the hands, the dress, some people kiss the center of the icon, some people kiss the feet of other Saints that may be on the icon, etc. etc.

Here, you have to kiss Jesus's feet.

I don't know, it's clearly a carryover from Western practice.
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What's with wiping the crucifix after each person venerates it?
It depends on the culture.
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What's with wiping the crucifix after each person venerates it?
It depends on the culture.

Bacterial or viral?
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What's with wiping the crucifix after each person venerates it?
It depends on the culture.

Bacterial or viral?

Yes.
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