At the end novus ordo is a problem for less then 1 percent of the catholics and more than 99 percent of orthodox.
It is not a question that we are more intelligent then those one who make mass before it is accumulation of knowledge. Now a 18 year old can understand all newton work that doesn't mean he is more inteligent
Also i think many catholics who has problem with novus ordo has problem with the western culture.
If you equivocate "Western culture" with "religious indifferentism and moral relativism," beliefs which you obviously hold from reading your other posts
For me now for exemple i don't consider one as a true christian today if he is against social right, gender right, homosexual right and the full equality between men and women in the church.
Yes, I have a problem with that. This is a morally wrong view of the world and disgusting heresy.
To say that homosexuality is a natural right and men and women, in the context of a Church community, are 100% equivalent (suggesting the advocation of female priesthood and the abolishment of the sanctity of motherhood) is contradictory to 2000 years worth of Christian Tradition. So much for "bearing your cross" and "defending the Faith," you hypocrite!
But the argument that it is mere cultural differences is an absolute load of......when you consider that the Roman Catholic Church was even stricter than the Orthodox Church when it came to liturgy pre-Vatican II. If you see it as "cultural development," then it is a bad and quite frankly offensive cultural development (I'm not gonna say the Aztecs, who had pagan human sacrifices, are immune from criticism).
I encourage you to read Seraphim Rose and some Mount Athos monks about contemporary Western culture.
Tradition are there they don't represent the truth or they represent the faith. You can have our own system of belief but it has nothing to do with how the society should work.
You're in heresy, from both an Orthodox and Roman Catholic perspective. I don't say that to judge you, I'm just pointing out your blatant and contradictory errors.
From a Roman Catholic perspective, I recommend you read Pope Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors (ideas condemned as heretical).
The following ideas are heresy according to one of your Popes:
"There exists no Supreme, all-wise, all-provident Divine Being, distinct from the universe, and God is identical with the nature of things, and is, therefore, subject to changes. In effect, God is produced in man and in the world, and all things are God and have the very substance of God, and God is one and the same thing with the world, and, therefore, spirit with matter, necessity with liberty, good with evil, justice with injustice."
"Human reason, without any reference whatsoever to God, is the sole arbiter of truth and falsehood, and of good and evil; it is law to itself, and suffices, by its natural force, to secure the welfare of men and of nations."
"All the truths of religion proceed from the innate strength of human reason; hence reason is the ultimate standard by which man can and ought to arrive at the knowledge of all truths of every kind."
"Divine revelation is imperfect, and therefore subject to a continual and indefinite progress, corresponding with the advancement of human reason. "
"The prophecies and miracles set forth and recorded in the Sacred Scriptures are the fiction of poets, and the mysteries of the Christian faith the result of philosophical investigations. In the books of the Old and the New Testament there are contained mythical inventions, and Jesus Christ is Himself a myth."
"All the dogmas of the Christian religion are indiscriminately the object of natural science or philosophy, and human reason, enlightened solely in an historical way, is able, by its own natural strength and principles, to attain to the true science of even the most abstruse dogmas; provided only that such dogmas be proposed to reason itself as its object."
"The Church not only ought never to pass judgment on philosophy, but ought to tolerate the errors of philosophy, leaving it to correct itself."
"Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true."
"Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation."
"Moral laws do not stand in need of the divine sanction, and it is not at all necessary that human laws should be made conformable to the laws of nature and receive their power of binding from God."
"The Roman Pontiff can, and ought to, reconcile himself, and come to terms with progress, liberalism and modern civilization."
"National churches, withdrawn from the authority of the Roman pontiff and altogether separated, can be established. "
"The State, as being the origin and source of all rights, is endowed with a certain right not circumscribed by any limits."
"The teaching of the Catholic Church is hostile to the well- being and interests of society."
"The civil government, even when in the hands of an infidel sovereign, has a right to an indirect negative power over religious affairs. It therefore possesses not only the right called that of “exsequatur,” but also that of appeal, called “appellatio ab abusu.""
"In the case of conflicting laws enacted by the two powers, the civil law prevails."
"The civil authority may interfere in matters relating to religion, morality and spiritual government: hence, it can pass judgment on the instructions issued for the guidance of consciences, conformably with their mission, by the pastors of the Church. Further, it has the right to make enactments regarding the administration of the divine sacraments, and the dispositions necessary for receiving them."
" The best theory of civil society requires that popular schools open to children of every class of the people, and, generally, all public institutes intended for instruction in letters and philosophical sciences and for carrying on the education of youth, should be freed from all ecclesiastical authority, control and interference, and should be fully subjected to the civil and political power at the pleasure of the rulers, and according to the standard of the prevalent opinions of the age."
"The Church ought to be separated from the State, and the State from the Church."
If you hold any of these beliefs, you are in a state of mortal sin according to the Roman Catholic Church.
Also, I find your post disgusting to say that Tradition doesn't matter. Why should we believe in God at all then? Why trust the Bible at all? The Church? Why believe Christ rose from the dead? All of this is Tradition, right? So why believe it? Is it something God permits arbitrarily?
I also recommend reading the "Heresy of Modernism," condemned by Pope Pius X (an article which I tend to mostly agree with; I don't believe in scholastic philosophy as a solution, but rather a cause)
http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-x/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-x_enc_19070908_pascendi-dominici-gregis.html