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About 150 people are crowded into the 19th-century church of Saint Augustin and Saint Fidèle in the Tunis suburb of La Goulette. More are gathered outside in the summer heat, behind the iron railings lining the narrow streets of Little Sicily, the neighbourhood where the fishing town’s Italian migrants once settled and established themselves.

The crowds have come to see the first procession of the Assumption to be staged in the city since the tradition died out in the early 60s. In its heyday, the flower-decked statue of the Virgin of Trapani would be carried through the packed streets of La Goulette to the harbour where, alongside the area’s Muslim and Jewish population, priests would bless the fishing boats and their crews.

In a region often defined by its sectarianism, Tunisia, despite its social tensions, remains a beacon of religious tolerance.

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In a region often defined by its sectarianism, Tunisia, despite its social tensions, remains a beacon of religious tolerance.


I hate to be a negative nelly, but it's also frequently cited that more Tunisians have joined ISIS than anyone else. In other words, the not-so-tolerant Tunisians are busy elsewhere. May the tolerant Tunisians carry the day!
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In a region often defined by its sectarianism, Tunisia, despite its social tensions, remains a beacon of religious tolerance.


I hate to be a negative nelly, but it's also frequently cited that more Tunisians have joined ISIS than anyone else. In other words, the not-so-tolerant Tunisians are busy elsewhere. May the tolerant Tunisians carry the day!

Can't be that frequently cited. Do you have an example?
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There is so many tunisian in the islamic state and al nusra, about 8000.
But now tunis is one of the best arabic country in freedom and the feminism movement is so much powerful. But this can change dramatically.

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In a region often defined by its sectarianism, Tunisia, despite its social tensions, remains a beacon of religious tolerance.


I hate to be a negative nelly, but it's also frequently cited that more Tunisians have joined ISIS than anyone else. In other words, the not-so-tolerant Tunisians are busy elsewhere. May the tolerant Tunisians carry the day!

Can't be that frequently cited. Do you have an example?

I haven't come across the statistics but I have noticed, over the past few years, that many of the news-noteworthy ISIS terrorists are Tunisian.
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It's probably because the present Tunisian government is intolerant of them and they can really function inside Tunisia as easily as another nation who have no problem with the presence of Islamists.
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It's probably because the present Tunisian government is intolerant of them and they can really function inside Tunisia as easily as another nation who have no problem with the presence of Islamists.

I don't think that the big number of tunisian in the islamic state or al nusra reflect really how the society in tunis is. At the end there is so many reason to find yourself fighting in this group. But the real danger for tunis is the cool islam movement who is spreading between the youth who have no real basic. So imagine someone in 20 who is defend a cool islam version where they will be after 15 years.

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In a region often defined by its sectarianism, Tunisia, despite its social tensions, remains a beacon of religious tolerance.


I hate to be a negative nelly, but it's also frequently cited that more Tunisians have joined ISIS than anyone else. In other words, the not-so-tolerant Tunisians are busy elsewhere. May the tolerant Tunisians carry the day!

Can't be that frequently cited. Do you have an example?

Type in "Tunisian Isis" into an internet search engine. It's frequently cited.

Edited to add: Seriously, the figures are everywhere. Aside from the heaps of newspaper articles on it, here's a CSIS report for you, as well as a Foreign Policy story
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In a region often defined by its sectarianism, Tunisia, despite its social tensions, remains a beacon of religious tolerance.


I hate to be a negative nelly, but it's also frequently cited that more Tunisians have joined ISIS than anyone else. In other words, the not-so-tolerant Tunisians are busy elsewhere. May the tolerant Tunisians carry the day!

Can't be that frequently cited. Do you have an example?

I haven't come across the statistics but I have noticed, over the past few years, that many of the news-noteworthy ISIS terrorists are Tunisian.

I can't believe it. I visited almost all Tunisia in 2009, it was so secular country... It was hard to hear azan from mosques, hard to see people going to mosques and praying somewhere in the street (and I saw it in 2008 in Egypt), there were Saturday and Sunday (no Thursday and Friday or Friday and Saturday) as weekend, there was no problem to buy some Tunisian alcohols (mainly rose wine), many women uncovered and working e.g in shops...
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Re: The Virgin of Trapani: tolerance and tradition go cheek by jowl in Tunis
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 04:08:50 PM »
Well, a lot of ISIS recruits came from Belgium too. It doesn't necessarily say much about the national character at large.
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Re: The Virgin of Trapani: tolerance and tradition go cheek by jowl in Tunis
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 11:12:52 PM »
Well, a lot of ISIS recruits came from Belgium too. It doesn't necessarily say much about the national character at large.
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