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New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« on: August 03, 2017, 03:01:08 AM »
The new Russian Orthodox catechism is undergoing its review process. The Russian language text is available in PDF format at the article linked below.

The Synodal Biblical and Theological Commission publishes Catechism Project

Hopefully the final version of the new catechism will be translated into English.
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2017, 03:04:10 AM »
The new Russian Orthodox catechism is undergoing its review process. The Russian language text is available in PDF format at the article linked below.

The Synodal Biblical and Theological Commission publishes Catechism Project

Hopefully the final version of the new catechism will be translated into English.

 Very few bother even reading the ones we already have.  Maybe this one will change that.
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 03:43:40 AM »
I've yet to understand the Russian need to ape the Roman church in this way.
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 06:47:13 AM »
I've yet to understand the Russian need to ape the Roman church in this way.

The EP has had official catechisms too.
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 09:54:51 AM »
I've yet to understand the Russian need to ape the Roman church in this way.

The EP has had official catechisms too.

But that's not aping Rome, that's "confirming the brethren" and "teaching all nations". 
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 10:09:27 AM »
I've yet to understand the Russian need to ape the Roman church in this way.

The EP has had official catechisms too.

But that's not aping Rome, that's "confirming the brethren" and "teaching all nations".

The funny thing is, I think their first official catechism was Saint Peter Mogila's.
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2017, 06:53:28 PM »
I've yet to understand the Russian need to ape the Roman church in this way.

The EP has had official catechisms too.

I'm sure. But the famous ones, and the ones that get pushed in people's faces, seem to be Slavic. Or, conversely, I'm just wrong.

My concern is the fostering of this mindset we're not allowed on OC.net to use descriptives for but which many converts nonetheless realize in their own backgrounds, this mindset part of which makes faith formal mental assent and doctrine pedantic canons. There's enough of that at every other denomination. Converts should be freed, and given the Symbol of Faith, the Divine Liturgy, and the Fathers.
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 09:40:29 PM »
I don't think the catechism is meant to be a definitive confession, just a learning tool. Many fathers do expound dogma in a systematic way. I agree that we should avoid closed systems of propositions as substitutes for lively faith and theology.
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2017, 09:41:07 PM »
I don't think the catechism is meant to be a definitive confession, just a learning tool. Many fathers do expound dogma in a systematic way. I agree that we should avoid closed systems of propositions as substitutes for lively faith and theology.

I'm with you.
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2017, 11:24:20 PM »
I've yet to understand the Russian need to ape the Roman church in this way.
Is the Roman Church perfectly imperfect?
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Re: New Russian Orthodox Catechism Published for Church Review
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2017, 11:25:45 PM »
I've yet to understand the Russian need to ape the Roman church in this way.
Is the Roman Church perfectly imperfect?

Well, gosh, Sharbel, they try tho they're only human.
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are near them you feel ecstatic and very happy