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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #360 on: August 01, 2017, 12:42:50 PM »
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #361 on: August 01, 2017, 01:06:00 PM »
So is this like talk therapy or something? Cause $80 /hr. for therapy is fine, but otherwise... ???

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« Reply #362 on: August 01, 2017, 01:07:01 PM »
If you want it to be.  She is a doctor (PhD)!
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #363 on: August 01, 2017, 01:07:23 PM »
Someone must have concocted a fabulous myth about these people cos' they don't exist.
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #364 on: August 01, 2017, 01:27:17 PM »
So is this like talk therapy or something? Cause $80 /hr. for therapy is fine, but otherwise... ???
Isn't the rate for talk therapy more like $40/hr.?
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #365 on: August 01, 2017, 01:37:00 PM »
So is this like talk therapy or something? Cause $80 /hr. for therapy is fine, but otherwise... ???
Isn't the rate for talk therapy more like $40/hr.?

I'll talk to anyone here for $20/hr, with bulk discounts. 
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #366 on: August 01, 2017, 01:46:24 PM »
Someone must have concocted a fabulous myth about these people cos' they don't exist.

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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #367 on: August 01, 2017, 02:00:23 PM »
So is this like talk therapy or something? Cause $80 /hr. for therapy is fine, but otherwise... ???
Isn't the rate for talk therapy more like $40/hr.?
Usually its around $120 if not covered by insurance.
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #368 on: August 01, 2017, 02:06:56 PM »
So is this like talk therapy or something? Cause $80 /hr. for therapy is fine, but otherwise... ???
Isn't the rate for talk therapy more like $40/hr.?

I'll talk to anyone here for $20/hr, with bulk discounts.

I was going to Jew it down some more, but I know you'd post your MDiv and I don't have one of those.
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #369 on: August 01, 2017, 03:09:06 PM »
So is this like talk therapy or something? Cause $80 /hr. for therapy is fine, but otherwise... ???
Isn't the rate for talk therapy more like $40/hr.?

I'll talk to anyone here for $20/hr, with bulk discounts.

I was going to Jew it down some more, but I know you'd post your MDiv and I don't have one of those.

I was looking for that post the other day and regretted my inability to track it down. 
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #370 on: August 01, 2017, 03:44:52 PM »
So, apparently you can pay $80 to talk to Sister Vassa for an hour.

I can't believe it. I spent last days in a female monastery, talking with its sisters (the igumenya knows perfecly Greek) and monks with a nearby male monastery (they know various langauges and liturgical stuff) for free. I hadn't to pay for the accomodarion nor food. Moreover, I was given a psalter.
Such attitude - talks, spending time in monastery for some (usually not so little) money is typical for Roman Catholics there - people pay for living in a monastic way (works, vegetarian diet, lectures, reading of Bible, liturgical services) ::)
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #371 on: August 01, 2017, 11:38:35 PM »
So, apparently you can pay $80 to talk to Sister Vassa for an hour.
She is making it rather hard for anyone to provide a serious defense for her.
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« Reply #372 on: August 02, 2017, 09:52:55 AM »
This mess continues,  now she charging paid spiritual counsel. Isn't she suppose to be a nun?  Mods please move else where if needed.
 
http://byztex.blogspot.com/2017/08/sr-vassa-doubles-down-now-offering-paid.html?m=1

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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #373 on: August 02, 2017, 11:12:38 AM »
Any aspiring journalists?  They can have a 50 min interview ("pick her brain") on the recent scandal.
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #374 on: August 02, 2017, 11:40:48 AM »
So is this like talk therapy or something? Cause $80 /hr. for therapy is fine, but otherwise... ???
Isn't the rate for talk therapy more like $40/hr.?

I'll talk to anyone here for $20/hr, with bulk discounts.

Hmm I should book some time to clear up some liturgical questions I have...   :P
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #375 on: August 02, 2017, 11:43:44 AM »
Any aspiring journalists?  They can have a 50 min interview ("pick her brain") on the recent scandal.

I don't really care what she has to say.  A major difference between Orthodoxy and Catholicism is that obedience to the church is not a discretionary matter.  I see Sr. Vassa as a dangerous force, who, if left unchecked, would have evolved into our own miniature Orthodox version of Nuns on a Bus.

Btw I am very disappointed in her over this, in part because she was useful to name drop as an important figure in contemporary Orthodoxy when we are on occasion falsely accused of being sexist.
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #376 on: August 02, 2017, 11:54:16 AM »
So is this like talk therapy or something? Cause $80 /hr. for therapy is fine, but otherwise... ???
Isn't the rate for talk therapy more like $40/hr.?

I'll talk to anyone here for $20/hr, with bulk discounts.

Hmm I should book some time to clear up some liturgical questions I have...   :P

For you it's $100/hr, you require special skills and I know you can afford it.  :P
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #377 on: August 02, 2017, 11:56:03 AM »
For an extra fee would the klobuk come off?
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #378 on: August 02, 2017, 12:18:07 PM »
For an extra fee would the klobuk come off?

If you'll pay for shipping, I'll mail it to you. 
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #379 on: August 02, 2017, 12:45:30 PM »
For an extra fee would the klobuk come off?

If you'll pay for shipping, I'll mail it to you.
maybe alpha60 can step in he's both richer and also has a thing for veils and liturgical parameters. I'm
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #380 on: August 02, 2017, 12:55:01 PM »
I'll talk to anyone here for $20/hr, with bulk discounts. 
plus sales tax? :P

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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #381 on: August 02, 2017, 12:56:35 PM »
I liked Sister Vassa when she introduced saints.  For her latest thing, I am not sure if she is charging to cover cost or if some of the money goes to her or to her organization?  I am wondering if she has approval to give advice? :-\

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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #382 on: August 02, 2017, 02:27:24 PM »
AFR is doing it job as a Orthodox site,  I'd like to see this nun be given the chance to repent,  it is unOrthodox to hold contray opinions that different from the Church, the Orthodox Church doesn't condone Homosexual relationships, or hooking up.
It depends on who you are on AFR. There seems to be a group of folks (some now reposed) who could pretty much say what they wanted and not get in trouble for it. Im not bashing AFR, just a personal observation.

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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #383 on: August 02, 2017, 03:00:34 PM »
This mess continues,  now she charging paid spiritual counsel. Isn't she suppose to be a nun?  Mods please move else where if needed.
 
http://byztex.blogspot.com/2017/08/sr-vassa-doubles-down-now-offering-paid.html?m=1

The web site is: http://www.coffeewithsistervassa.com/video-chat-with-sr-vassa

No need to read it second hand on a blog.

Sr. Vassa is a nun directly under obedience to Bishop Mark of Berlin of the ROCOR.  It was his decision that she go to university and study theology.

I do remember reading in a recent interview (in The Wheel I think)  with her that she has a staff of how many people I forget for her online ministry.  No doubt there are costs involved to pay her staff and also for her internet domain and activity. 
Note the prices cited are European prices in American dollars: every time I have been to Europe  I found the price of even a cup of coffee to be outrageous compared to prices at home.
Since she is in obedience directly to Bishop Mark she has to have his permission for her work.

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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #384 on: August 02, 2017, 05:07:39 PM »
Since she is in obedience directly to Bishop Mark she has to have his permission for her work.

I'm not sure we can take this to mean that Bp Mark pre-authorises everything she does. 
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #385 on: August 02, 2017, 06:08:09 PM »
^Indeed.

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« Reply #386 on: August 02, 2017, 06:51:37 PM »
Since she is in obedience directly to Bishop Mark she has to have his permission for her work.

I'm not sure we can take this to mean that Bp Mark pre-authorises everything she does.

I can see your point.  Probably, Bishop Mark gave his permission for her to study, to teach after graduation and her outreach in non-specific terms.  By that I mean that he is not involved in the rates for her to charge for her services.

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« Reply #387 on: August 02, 2017, 07:04:19 PM »
"The worker deserves his wages."

$1.60 a minute really is pretty cheap. I used to call 1-800 advice lines and wrestling hot lines that charged like $3 a minute, and I bet the advice wasn't half as good as you'd get from Sister Vassa.

Speaking of which, 1-800 lines are surprisingly inexpensive to set up and maintain,  and especially good if you do business outside the local Podunk; I strongly recommend all businesses get one.
 
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« Reply #389 on: August 02, 2017, 08:54:22 PM »
So, apparently you can pay $80 to talk to Sister Vassa for an hour.
Yeah... Spiritual Directorism is where I draw the line.
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...you can imagine so-called healing services of the pigpen. The books that could be written, you know: Life in the Pigpen. How to Cope in the Pigpen. Being Happy in the Pigpen. Surviving in the Pigpen. And then there could be counselling, for people who feel unhappy in the pigpen, to try to get them to come to terms with the pigpen, and to accept the pigpen.

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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #390 on: August 02, 2017, 08:56:33 PM »
This mess continues,  now she charging paid spiritual counsel. Isn't she suppose to be a nun?  Mods please move else where if needed.
 
http://byztex.blogspot.com/2017/08/sr-vassa-doubles-down-now-offering-paid.html?m=1
Lost a lot of respect for byztex getting mixed up in this on either side
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...you can imagine so-called healing services of the pigpen. The books that could be written, you know: Life in the Pigpen. How to Cope in the Pigpen. Being Happy in the Pigpen. Surviving in the Pigpen. And then there could be counselling, for people who feel unhappy in the pigpen, to try to get them to come to terms with the pigpen, and to accept the pigpen.

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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #391 on: August 02, 2017, 08:58:31 PM »
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #392 on: August 02, 2017, 09:12:16 PM »
Can't she just make candles or something to bring in income like most other monastic do? This seems like it is just baiting the bear.
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #393 on: August 02, 2017, 10:06:18 PM »
This mess continues,  now she charging paid spiritual counsel. Isn't she suppose to be a nun?  Mods please move else where if needed.
 
http://byztex.blogspot.com/2017/08/sr-vassa-doubles-down-now-offering-paid.html?m=1

The web site is: http://www.coffeewithsistervassa.com/video-chat-with-sr-vassa

No need to read it second hand on a blog.

Sr. Vassa is a nun directly under obedience to Bishop Mark of Berlin of the ROCOR.  It was his decision that she go to university and study theology.

I do remember reading in a recent interview (in The Wheel I think)  with her that she has a staff of how many people I forget for her online ministry.  No doubt there are costs involved to pay her staff and also for her internet domain and activity. 
Note the prices cited are European prices in American dollars: every time I have been to Europe  I found the price of even a cup of coffee to be outrageous compared to prices at home.
Since she is in obedience directly to Bishop Mark she has to have his permission for her work.

I'm interested to know what motivated this laundry list of excuses? In other words, what's your take on this ministry, over all?
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #394 on: August 02, 2017, 10:09:09 PM »
Can't she just make candles or something to bring in income like most other monastic do? This seems like it is just baiting the bear.

She's not operating a monastery. She's one person who works a job. This idea that having a domain and a vlog breaks the bank is pretty ludicrous to hear on an interent-savvy site like OC.net -- I'll bet most of us have those things, even the ones in our mothers' basements. I agree with your point in general however.
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #395 on: August 02, 2017, 10:25:31 PM »
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Quote from: Fr. Thomas Hopko, dystopian parable of the prodigal son
...you can imagine so-called healing services of the pigpen. The books that could be written, you know: Life in the Pigpen. How to Cope in the Pigpen. Being Happy in the Pigpen. Surviving in the Pigpen. And then there could be counselling, for people who feel unhappy in the pigpen, to try to get them to come to terms with the pigpen, and to accept the pigpen.

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« Reply #396 on: August 02, 2017, 10:27:37 PM »
$i$ter Va$$a ©™
Stick to s-posting on Christianforums with your crypto-Randian ACNAntiochian/ Evangelochian comrades  :police:
LOL Evangelochian.
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Re: Coffee with (Removed - Ancient Faith Radio)
« Reply #397 on: August 02, 2017, 10:58:34 PM »
$i$ter Va$$a ©™
Stick to s-posting on Christianforums with your crypto-Randian ACNAntiochian/ Evangelochian comrades  :police:

Quit stalking people and get a life,  don't u have a family, what about a wife or in your case a bf? I ain't a Randian , never been big on Libertarianism.

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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #398 on: August 02, 2017, 11:24:01 PM »
I've seen paid lay spiritual directors, but never paid clergy nor religious spiritual directors.
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #399 on: August 03, 2017, 12:47:20 AM »
Can't she just make candles or something to bring in income like most other monastic do? This seems like it is just baiting the bear.

She's not operating a monastery. She's one person who works a job. This idea that having a domain and a vlog breaks the bank is pretty ludicrous to hear on an interent-savvy site like OC.net -- I'll bet most of us have those things, even the ones in our mothers' basements. I agree with your point in general however.
I'm not internet savy at all. I know how to click on Google Chrome and navigate through my favorites, but that is about it. I have no idea about domains or vlogs or whatever else have you. I think I do recall something being mentioned that she had a team of people that does the editing for her videos and that she pays them. I'm guessing that is why she is finding alternate sources of income. This one just seems to be in particularly bad taste.
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #400 on: August 03, 2017, 12:50:34 AM »
Can't she just make candles or something to bring in income like most other monastic do? This seems like it is just baiting the bear.

She's not operating a monastery. She's one person who works a job. This idea that having a domain and a vlog breaks the bank is pretty ludicrous to hear on an interent-savvy site like OC.net -- I'll bet most of us have those things, even the ones in our mothers' basements. I agree with your point in general however.
I'm not internet savy at all. I know how to click on Google Chrome and navigate through my favorites, but that is about it. I have no idea about domains or vlogs or whatever else have you. I think I do recall something being mentioned that she had a team of people that does the editing for her videos and that she pays them. I'm guessing that is why she is finding alternate sources of income. This one just seems to be in particularly bad taste.

Millions of people do it. It's neither complicated nor costly.
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #402 on: August 03, 2017, 09:55:56 AM »
Can't she just make candles or something to bring in income like most other monastic do? This seems like it is just baiting the bear.

She's not operating a monastery. She's one person who works a job. This idea that having a domain and a vlog breaks the bank is pretty ludicrous to hear on an interent-savvy site like OC.net -- I'll bet most of us have those things, even the ones in our mothers' basements. I agree with your point in general however.
I'm not internet savy at all. I know how to click on Google Chrome and navigate through my favorites, but that is about it. I have no idea about domains or vlogs or whatever else have you. I think I do recall something being mentioned that she had a team of people that does the editing for her videos and that she pays them. I'm guessing that is why she is finding alternate sources of income. This one just seems to be in particularly bad taste.

Millions of people do it. It's neither complicated nor costly.

I'm sure she'd like to hear from you on how to make it easier on her zillions. 
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #403 on: August 03, 2017, 09:57:28 AM »
I will pay $80 to watch a Porter-Sister Vassa dialogue.
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Re: Vassagate continues
« Reply #404 on: August 03, 2017, 09:59:43 AM »
I will pay $80 to watch a Porter-Sister Vassa dialogue.
If you could twitch stream that so we can have realtime comments, I'd help pay for it.
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— Saint Irenaeus of Lyons, Fragment XI

Modernist thinking and being consists of nothing but uncritical acceptance.